s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 1 有没有比较好的网站，还是要亲自跑napa一趟？
另外我能不能自己买一个小点的橡木桶，然后买几瓶酒回来自己倒出来储存，这样会坏
掉是吧。 |
P***e
发帖数: 804 | 2 You don't have to go to Napa to buy a Napa wine. Any supermarket like
Costco should be easy to find tons of them. What varietal do you like?
White or red? Popular California reds include Cabernet Sauvignon,
Merlot, Pinot Noir, Zinfandel, and Syrah is kind of winding down. Whites
are such as Chardonnay, Pinot Grigio, Sauvinon Blanc, Symphony, Muscato
etc. Most $10+ wines are aged in oak . Actually even most of the
economy wines also have oak components in them- they were aged on top of
what's called oak alternative such as oak staves, oak chips etc. The
purpose is to achieve the same aroma and mouth feel as aged in oak at a
cheaper price barrel since barrels are expensive, French barrel ~$900-
1000, American $400-500 each. If you like sweet floral wine, buy a
Muscato like Barefoot Muscato, only $5-6, very tropical, and most people
will like it, and it is low in alcohol.
I wouldn't recommend to buy a small oak barrel to store wine. Barrel
function is to extract barrel tannins and aroms, in the mean while it
has pores that allow air permeation into the wine to cause all kinds of
changes to wine, but it is a slow process and oxygen exposure should be
controlled. There is high chance of oxidize your wine if you do not know
what you are doing.
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 有没有比较好的网站，还是要亲自跑napa一趟？
: 另外我能不能自己买一个小点的橡木桶，然后买几瓶酒回来自己倒出来储存，这样会坏
: 掉是吧。
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M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 3 It is more reasonable for you to purchase several bottles of good wine.
Those are with oak cork.
And you need a wine cabinet where you are to store your wines slightly tilted
so that the wine can come into contact with the cork.
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 有没有比较好的网站，还是要亲自跑napa一趟？
: 另外我能不能自己买一个小点的橡木桶，然后买几瓶酒回来自己倒出来储存，这样会坏
: 掉是吧。
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P***e
发帖数: 804 | 4 One more thing, the best way to store your wine is in the bottle-glass is
the best because it is inert. If it has wood cork, store it sideway or
upside down. This way the wood cork would stay wet, wouldn't crack, if
cork is try, air gets in and oxidizes your wine. The best enclosure is
actually screw cap, but consumers don't buy it because they want a wood
cork if it is a $10 wine.
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 有没有比较好的网站，还是要亲自跑napa一趟？
: 另外我能不能自己买一个小点的橡木桶，然后买几瓶酒回来自己倒出来储存，这样会坏
: 掉是吧。
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M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 5 Cork is actually very important. Especially the oak cork.
It creates the effect like the oak barrel.
【在 P***e 的大作中提到】
: One more thing, the best way to store your wine is in the bottle-glass is
: the best because it is inert. If it has wood cork, store it sideway or
: upside down. This way the wood cork would stay wet, wouldn't crack, if
: cork is try, air gets in and oxidizes your wine. The best enclosure is
: actually screw cap, but consumers don't buy it because they want a wood
: cork if it is a $10 wine.
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M*****R
发帖数: 650 | 6 大牛，景仰。
is
【在 P***e 的大作中提到】
: One more thing, the best way to store your wine is in the bottle-glass is
: the best because it is inert. If it has wood cork, store it sideway or
: upside down. This way the wood cork would stay wet, wouldn't crack, if
: cork is try, air gets in and oxidizes your wine. The best enclosure is
: actually screw cap, but consumers don't buy it because they want a wood
: cork if it is a $10 wine.
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P***e
发帖数: 804 | 7 Not really, cork is stripped from the bark of cork oak tree which does not
have the aroma and mouth feel constituents that contribute to wine sensory
as oak barrels, it is just hydrophobic material like laminated wooden
floor. Oak barrel is made from oak wood with bark stripped off. Generally
oak tree is sliced and "aged" outdoor for 1.5-3 years to let bacterias do
their job to make the wood ready, then wood plank is surfaced-stripped
again then toasted to different levels by a cooper to achieve different
style. Toasting is to break down lignin in wood to bring up all the good
stuffs.
The only reason cork is still around is that most people are snobs. They
believe a good wine should come with cork. BTW, would you buy a $15 wine
in a 750ml Coca cola can? No way for most people, that's not up scale for
a wine container. Oh ya, we are all snobs in some way. :-)
【在 M*******c 的大作中提到】
: Cork is actually very important. Especially the oak cork.
: It creates the effect like the oak barrel.
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s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 8 多谢大牛，主要是我女儿出生了，所以想给她买点好酒，存到她出嫁的时候客人一起喝
，如果买几
瓶玻璃瓶的，应该没有放在橡木桶里面那种继续age的功能了吧，哪里去买这种可以继
续存的酒
呢，需要去专门的酒庄reserve么？
【在 P***e 的大作中提到】
: You don't have to go to Napa to buy a Napa wine. Any supermarket like
: Costco should be easy to find tons of them. What varietal do you like?
: White or red? Popular California reds include Cabernet Sauvignon,
: Merlot, Pinot Noir, Zinfandel, and Syrah is kind of winding down. Whites
: are such as Chardonnay, Pinot Grigio, Sauvinon Blanc, Symphony, Muscato
: etc. Most $10+ wines are aged in oak . Actually even most of the
: economy wines also have oak components in them- they were aged on top of
: what's called oak alternative such as oak staves, oak chips etc. The
: purpose is to achieve the same aroma and mouth feel as aged in oak at a
: cheaper price barrel since barrels are expensive, French barrel ~$900-
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 9 这是有常识的人说的话吗？
呵呵
【在 M*******c 的大作中提到】
: Cork is actually very important. Especially the oak cork.
: It creates the effect like the oak barrel.
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 10 你说的是类似陈年绍兴酒，女儿红的习俗，那是黄酒
红酒 or grape wine 的 aging 是不同的
依品质不同，发酵后在橡木桶 aging 1-3 年，然后装瓶
红酒在玻璃瓶中，隔绝氧气，保持一定的温度，湿度，继续 aging
但只有 balanced 的红酒才值得 aging
顶级的法国红酒可以贮存30年以上，而且越久越醇
听说，喝了一口30年的红酒，感觉像是人间仙境
你现在在超市买到$5-10 的酒，买来3-6个月内就要喝，
不适合 aging, 贮存越久，味道还更差
一般来说，$20-30 的红酒（主要是 Cabernet Sauvignon）
可以贮存3-5年再喝，会更香醇一些
再好一点的，可以存个10年（保持一定的温度，湿度，瓶子平躺放）
不建议再贮存久一点，因为我们的酒窖不够专业，效果不好
好酒可能会变坏
LZ 为了以后嫁女儿贮存酒，除非本人财力雄厚，不然不建议
因为只有顶级的法国5大酒庄（或同级）的红酒才值得存25年以上
这些酒一出厂，就是一瓶800-1000美刀，（给中国的富人炒的）
LZ 要嫁女儿请客，少说要12-24瓶，不少钱啊
自己贮存，弄不好，血本无归
呵呵，先恭喜您弄瓦之喜
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大牛，主要是我女儿出生了，所以想给她买点好酒，存到她出嫁的时候客人一起喝
: ，如果买几
: 瓶玻璃瓶的，应该没有放在橡木桶里面那种继续age的功能了吧，哪里去买这种可以继
: 续存的酒
: 呢，需要去专门的酒庄reserve么？
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 11 save yourself some trouble. Here
Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon 1992
http://www.centralavewines.com/r/products/robert-mondavi-reserv |
s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 12 你是说让我到时候再买是么？
请问一下白兰地之类的买了是不是可以保存久一点，在玻璃瓶里面也能继续aging呢？这样我大概
买一两瓶就可以了。
1992?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Feed
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: save yourself some trouble. Here
: Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon 1992
: http://www.centralavewines.com/r/products/robert-mondavi-reserv
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P***e
发帖数: 804 | 13 Economy wine does not need aging to taste smooth. Modern winemaking
technology such as MOX (microoxygenation, slow introduction of oxygen
to red wine after ferments) and utilization of oak alternatives make
wine drinkable right after purchase.
A good Napa wine can be either drunk right after purchase or stored
for many years. There are so many good Napa wines. You just need to
find your own favorites. Check out wine magazine/websites such as Wine
Spectator or Wine Enthusiast if you are note sure which wine you
like. Conventional wisdom says French makes the best wine and that is
not true. New world wines, wines made from US, Australia, New Zealand
and South Africa, are also pretty good. US does make super high end
wine. In 2008, 6 bottles of Screaming Eagle 1992 Cabernet Sauvignon
were sold for half a million dollars in an auction. Screaming Eagle is
a Napa winery. Also, like everything else not every wine made from
France is excellent, there are crap French wines too. Bourdieu wine
is so popular in China. But many imported French wines in China are
cheap ones but sold at very high prices. I won't go too far talking
about some of the French scandals over the news, hehe.
Brandy can be stored for many years too. It has higher alcohol
content, basically never go bad if kept unopened.
？这样我大
概
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 你是说让我到时候再买是么？
: 请问一下白兰地之类的买了是不是可以保存久一点，在玻璃瓶里面也能继续aging呢？这样我大概
: 买一两瓶就可以了。
:
: 1992?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Feed
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 14 an idea of a moron
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 有没有比较好的网站，还是要亲自跑napa一趟？
: 另外我能不能自己买一个小点的橡木桶，然后买几瓶酒回来自己倒出来储存，这样会坏
: 掉是吧。
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s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 15 hehe, 你还是先毕业再来这儿先吃萝卜淡操心吧。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: an idea of a moron
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | |
M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 17 Talking to them really is wasting your time.
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: hehe, 你还是先毕业再来这儿先吃萝卜淡操心吧。
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P***e
发帖数: 804 | 18 楼下好多Martini 的cab. Martini 的 cab 是典型的 Napa Cab, big，dark,
bold. Aging 之后更好。 Martini Lot No １是它的最高端红酒。
２００６vintage的大概＄150. Robert Parker给分很高。它的Monte
Rosso cab 也不错, louis martini wine shop 卖$80.
catcode=CCM&sortfield=maxVintage_sort&sortorder=asc
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: Not to worry. You can buy aged wine anytime. i.e.
: http://www.hdhwine.com/retail-wine-list?catcode=CCM&sortfield=m
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s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 19 多谢，我research一下，看看是不是买几瓶：）
【在 P***e 的大作中提到】
: 楼下好多Martini 的cab. Martini 的 cab 是典型的 Napa Cab, big，dark,
: bold. Aging 之后更好。 Martini Lot No １是它的最高端红酒。
: ２００６vintage的大概＄150. Robert Parker给分很高。它的Monte
: Rosso cab 也不错, louis martini wine shop 卖$80.
:
: catcode=CCM&sortfield=maxVintage_sort&sortorder=asc
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w*****g
发帖数: 615 | 20 you can use cellartracker to review the wine. This is a pretty good wine
community. You can read of the note people posted on almost any wine.
http://www.cellartracker.com
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢，我research一下，看看是不是买几瓶：）
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s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 21 好，多谢：）
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: you can use cellartracker to review the wine. This is a pretty good wine
: community. You can read of the note people posted on almost any wine.
: http://www.cellartracker.com
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