p********r
发帖数: 53 | 1 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？ |
s*****v
发帖数: 360 | 2 我觉得至少20万吧。google给fresh PhD的大约是18万 |
l*****1
发帖数: 128 | 3 这话有点大， 别蒙人家小朋友。 人家外州人认死里啊。
【在 s*****v 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得至少20万吧。google给fresh PhD的大约是18万
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 4 http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-senior-software
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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M***t
发帖数: 1636 | 5 看公司吧。我觉得不少公司到不了。
认识一个10+年经验的，title是staff engineer，在某个非goog的大公司，12万多
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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s*********r
发帖数: 468 | 6 15万一般需要Staff的title了吧。5年的MS应该是Sr这个range，base感觉大都在10-12
左右吧。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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b***e
发帖数: 1419 | 7 已经转joke了。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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H***F
发帖数: 2501 | 8 why
已经转joke了。
【在 b***e 的大作中提到】
: 已经转joke了。
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p********r
发帖数: 53 | 9 这是为什么呢？
【在 b***e 的大作中提到】
: 已经转joke了。
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c****a
发帖数: 546 | 10 I think 10-12W base is not bad for MSCS + 5 years experience.
12
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 15万一般需要Staff的title了吧。5年的MS应该是Sr这个range，base感觉大都在10-12
: 左右吧。
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g********e
发帖数: 6425 | 11 5 Year MS是big minus，看看MS这几年都做了什么破玩艺。//转公司坑
【在 c****a 的大作中提到】
: I think 10-12W base is not bad for MSCS + 5 years experience.
:
: 12
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f*****a
发帖数: 781 | 12 才 15w, 不是起码 25w 吗？
要是去 Goog, Facebook 至少得要个 30w, 50w 的 base
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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s**x
发帖数: 7506 | 13 I heard this is the number of shares they give.
【在 f*****a 的大作中提到】
: 才 15w, 不是起码 25w 吗？
: 要是去 Goog, Facebook 至少得要个 30w, 50w 的 base
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w**a
发帖数: 4743 | 14 兄弟，不至于吧。。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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P********r
发帖数: 1383 | 15 我听说这些人才回国去都是年薪百万起,外加配小蜜,一个月一换
如果他们开公司,收入上亿不成问题 |
s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 16 这个和你现在base多少有很大的关系。湾区和中西部比大概 X 1.2 = base 不变。
当然要保持生活水平不变，租房要 X 1.5，买房至少 X 3.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 计算机硕士毕业，微软工作5年，要跳到湾区去，薪水大概多少，base能有15万么？
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i**p
发帖数: 940 | 17 X3? 这个很夸张。房价也许是X3 or X4，但收入用不着.
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个和你现在base多少有很大的关系。湾区和中西部比大概 X 1.2 = base 不变。
: 当然要保持生活水平不变，租房要 X 1.5，买房至少 X 3.
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s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 18 房价都4X了， 2X的收入怎么撑呢？生活水平能不下降么？
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: X3? 这个很夸张。房价也许是X3 or X4，但收入用不着.
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i**p
发帖数: 940 | 19 吃喝玩和小孩的开销基本差别很小。
假定一个family中西部收入150k，我丝毫不认为弯曲的300k年收入生活水平下降了。
另外，弯曲有好天气和机会多。退休了房子卖掉又是一大笔钱。别的地方房子是便宜，
可卖的时候也值不了几文钱呀。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 房价都4X了， 2X的收入怎么撑呢？生活水平能不下降么？
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o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 20
～～～～～～～～～～～～～
Come on, dude! this is because you've put even more money into
it.
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: 吃喝玩和小孩的开销基本差别很小。
: 假定一个family中西部收入150k，我丝毫不认为弯曲的300k年收入生活水平下降了。
: 另外，弯曲有好天气和机会多。退休了房子卖掉又是一大笔钱。别的地方房子是便宜，
: 可卖的时候也值不了几文钱呀。
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f****y
发帖数: 172 | 21 这个太假了
【在 s*****v 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得至少20万吧。google给fresh PhD的大约是18万
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i**p
发帖数: 940 | 22 Of course. But people are comparing making $150k in mid west states against
making X2 annual income in
bay area. So I am telling them, yes, the house is much more expensive, but
you are making more, and you get
a much bigger resale value in the end.
into
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
:
: ～～～～～～～～～～～～～
: Come on, dude! this is because you've put even more money into
: it.
:
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o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 23 You didn't get it. Higher house price doesn't necessarily mean more profit
when you resale it, just like buying more expensive stocks doesn't
necessarily
bring you more profit. Sometimes you may even lose more money due to higher
purchase price. So it doesn't make sense to count higher house price as an
advantage when comparing life in different areas, just like you can't assume
you will definitely make money by buying stocks.
against
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: Of course. But people are comparing making $150k in mid west states against
: making X2 annual income in
: bay area. So I am telling them, yes, the house is much more expensive, but
: you are making more, and you get
: a much bigger resale value in the end.
:
: into
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x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 24 aglee.
higher
assume
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: You didn't get it. Higher house price doesn't necessarily mean more profit
: when you resale it, just like buying more expensive stocks doesn't
: necessarily
: bring you more profit. Sometimes you may even lose more money due to higher
: purchase price. So it doesn't make sense to count higher house price as an
: advantage when comparing life in different areas, just like you can't assume
: you will definitely make money by buying stocks.
:
: against
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t*****g
发帖数: 2941 | |
s*****c
发帖数: 550 | 26 Agree.
【在 t*****g 的大作中提到】
: I would say 90-120k
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i**p
发帖数: 940 | 27 Well, you didn't get my point. I was not talking about making profit.
I was simply saying high income/high home price is better than low
income/low home price, everything else being equal.
profit
higher
an
assume
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: You didn't get it. Higher house price doesn't necessarily mean more profit
: when you resale it, just like buying more expensive stocks doesn't
: necessarily
: bring you more profit. Sometimes you may even lose more money due to higher
: purchase price. So it doesn't make sense to count higher house price as an
: advantage when comparing life in different areas, just like you can't assume
: you will definitely make money by buying stocks.
:
: against
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s****e
发帖数: 139 | |
s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 29 所以 4X 的房价， 3X 的薪水就可以达到同等的生活水平,没要求4X的工资。 2X 是肯
定不够的。
比如达拉斯30万的新房，10万元的收入就可以过得挺好，退休也不会没钱的。
硅谷150万的新房，5X了，20万收入的没有发横财是无论如何撑不住的，30万勉勉强强
能死撑，退休
没现钱就一个大房还得卖。
profit
higher
an
assume
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: You didn't get it. Higher house price doesn't necessarily mean more profit
: when you resale it, just like buying more expensive stocks doesn't
: necessarily
: bring you more profit. Sometimes you may even lose more money due to higher
: purchase price. So it doesn't make sense to count higher house price as an
: advantage when comparing life in different areas, just like you can't assume
: you will definitely make money by buying stocks.
:
: against
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d1
发帖数: 1213 | 30 没错啊，这里就是公司多
【在 s****e 的大作中提到】
: 湾区公司海了去了.这跟去哪个公司关系很大.
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f*****a
发帖数: 781 | 31
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?
are you dreaming?
Isn't california is the only state that requires 10%+ sales tax, and many
other hidden taxes on your daily life?
only dare care is much more expensive here in ca
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: 吃喝玩和小孩的开销基本差别很小。
: 假定一个family中西部收入150k，我丝毫不认为弯曲的300k年收入生活水平下降了。
: 另外，弯曲有好天气和机会多。退休了房子卖掉又是一大笔钱。别的地方房子是便宜，
: 可卖的时候也值不了几文钱呀。
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 32 In the long run, housing price typically exceeds inflation rate.
Many people forget leverage, you pay down 20% and profit from 100%
of house equity growth, the first 250K tax free.
In stock market, how many of you are using margin, let alone 4 times of
margin? Not to mention the margin rate is typically 10% compare to
3% variable rate in mortgage.
So at the end of the day, in higher salary/higher housing area, you
contribute part of your higher salary to increase your home equity,
and you are doing leveraging to make that growth much bigger. It's not
necessarily a bad thing.
I would say in average Texas people live in a bigger house, while
California people enjoy weather and retire richer.
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 所以 4X 的房价， 3X 的薪水就可以达到同等的生活水平,没要求4X的工资。 2X 是肯
: 定不够的。
: 比如达拉斯30万的新房，10万元的收入就可以过得挺好，退休也不会没钱的。
: 硅谷150万的新房，5X了，20万收入的没有发横财是无论如何撑不住的，30万勉勉强强
: 能死撑，退休
: 没现钱就一个大房还得卖。
:
: profit
: higher
: an
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p*******f
发帖数: 530 | 33 I would say in average Texas people live in a bigger house, while
California people enjoy weather and retire richer.
- California people retire richer only if they sell their house and move to
Texas. Leverage is good thing especially if you also get tax benefit from
the mortege. However, housing is risky and less liquid. Your house should
not be viewed as your 401K. You can't diverify it and you can't be sure
your house won't get destoryed by an earthquake.
You also forget you are paying much more on property tax, insurance,etc on a
millior dollar house.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: In the long run, housing price typically exceeds inflation rate.
: Many people forget leverage, you pay down 20% and profit from 100%
: of house equity growth, the first 250K tax free.
: In stock market, how many of you are using margin, let alone 4 times of
: margin? Not to mention the margin rate is typically 10% compare to
: 3% variable rate in mortgage.
: So at the end of the day, in higher salary/higher housing area, you
: contribute part of your higher salary to increase your home equity,
: and you are doing leveraging to make that growth much bigger. It's not
: necessarily a bad thing.
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Q**Q
发帖数: 1450 | 34 Texas的房子怎么也贵不起来。3%的property tax， 1m的房子谁住的起？
to
should
【在 p*******f 的大作中提到】
: I would say in average Texas people live in a bigger house, while
: California people enjoy weather and retire richer.
: - California people retire richer only if they sell their house and move to
: Texas. Leverage is good thing especially if you also get tax benefit from
: the mortege. However, housing is risky and less liquid. Your house should
: not be viewed as your 401K. You can't diverify it and you can't be sure
: your house won't get destoryed by an earthquake.
: You also forget you are paying much more on property tax, insurance,etc on a
: millior dollar house.
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o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 35 what about ~10% state tax and sales tax in CA?
【在 Q**Q 的大作中提到】
: Texas的房子怎么也贵不起来。3%的property tax， 1m的房子谁住的起？
:
: to
: should
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b***e
发帖数: 1419 | 36 也已经转joke了。
【在 H***F 的大作中提到】
: why
:
: 已经转joke了。
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Y****r
发帖数: 3473 | |
