p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 1 Hi,
I really need some advice for a major career decision.
I'm 36, really feel that I need to make a breakthrough in my career.
I currently work at a start-up, doing product management. My title is
director, but I don't manage anyone. In my previous job, I managed a team of
6 people.
My current job is dead end in many ways.
I just got a job offer with P&L responsibilities to manage a product line
with annual revenue of $50M+. I'll manage 3 people. It all sounds good.
However, the base salary com |
x*****u
发帖数: 4750 | |
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 3 Take it. not many people have opportunity to manage P&L. You can jump to a
better one with the experience. |
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 4 Why payscale.com is market price?
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】
: 为啥比market price要低阿？
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a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 5 what's P&L ?
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: Take it. not many people have opportunity to manage P&L. You can jump to a
: better one with the experience.
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x*****u
发帖数: 4750 | 6 对哦。但是通常新的公司一半都会beat现在的不是？除非说现在的特别特别高
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: Why payscale.com is market price?
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 7 profit & Loss
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: what's P&L ?
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 8 not really. If you switch field or change career path. normally you are
willing to take pay cut.
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】
: 对哦。但是通常新的公司一半都会beat现在的不是？除非说现在的特别特别高
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p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 9 This company is working hard to increase profit (they're public and under a
lot of pressure from wall street.)
So, they pay low in cash, but a little bit high on stock options. However, I
have no idea how high the stock could go. It could end up nothing -- I was
given stock options not RSUs.
Also, they need to pay a 3rd-party head hunter (who referred me) for 20%
referral fees.
【在 x*****u 的大作中提到】
: 为啥比market price要低阿？
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p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 10 I'm not making a major career change -- I know the domain very well -- it's
basically moving from PM to product line manager. But, I never had P&L
experience. Clearly, they know it's attractive to me, and they're being very
shrewd in low-balling me a little bit.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: not really. If you switch field or change career path. normally you are
: willing to take pay cut.
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c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 11 这个product line是不是一个niche?????
ask them why you don't get more pay when you are responsible for 50M+
revenue
???
听上去好像不是特别怎么样
of
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: Hi,
: I really need some advice for a major career decision.
: I'm 36, really feel that I need to make a breakthrough in my career.
: I currently work at a start-up, doing product management. My title is
: director, but I don't manage anyone. In my previous job, I managed a team of
: 6 people.
: My current job is dead end in many ways.
: I just got a job offer with P&L responsibilities to manage a product line
: with annual revenue of $50M+. I'll manage 3 people. It all sounds good.
: However, the base salary com
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c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 12 小公司的不管人的director顶多150k吧？
take 个15% pay cut去大公司manage 50M+ revenue
sounds RIDICULOUS
a
I
was
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: This company is working hard to increase profit (they're public and under a
: lot of pressure from wall street.)
: So, they pay low in cash, but a little bit high on stock options. However, I
: have no idea how high the stock could go. It could end up nothing -- I was
: given stock options not RSUs.
: Also, they need to pay a 3rd-party head hunter (who referred me) for 20%
: referral fees.
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p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 13 Good question..
It's a niche product line, but has been growing well for the past couple of
years. It used to be a step child in the company, but it is now account for
$15-20% of the company's total revenue. So, more attention is given to the
product line, and that's why they're hiring someone. The previous manager
got promoted because he did a good job in past 2 years.
【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这个product line是不是一个niche?????
: ask them why you don't get more pay when you are responsible for 50M+
: revenue
: ???
: 听上去好像不是特别怎么样
:
: of
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D**s
发帖数: 3909 | 14 具体情况具体分析，也不能只看眼前多少钱。。。
【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】
: 小公司的不管人的director顶多150k吧？
: take 个15% pay cut去大公司manage 50M+ revenue
: sounds RIDICULOUS
:
: a
: I
: was
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c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 15 don't know.
sounds like you will be taken advantage
又想让你跑路，又不给你吃草，这种path长久不了的
of
for
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: Good question..
: It's a niche product line, but has been growing well for the past couple of
: years. It used to be a step child in the company, but it is now account for
: $15-20% of the company's total revenue. So, more attention is given to the
: product line, and that's why they're hiring someone. The previous manager
: got promoted because he did a good job in past 2 years.
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 16 simply tell us how much the pay is, so we can judge it is over pay or under
pay.
of
for
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: Good question..
: It's a niche product line, but has been growing well for the past couple of
: years. It used to be a step child in the company, but it is now account for
: $15-20% of the company's total revenue. So, more attention is given to the
: product line, and that's why they're hiring someone. The previous manager
: got promoted because he did a good job in past 2 years.
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K*******A
发帖数: 821 | 17 先看自己有没有这水平吧，成本降不下来，估计很快要被公司当成本而强行裁减的。 |
p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 18 130K Salary
15% performance bonus
10K sign-on, plus stock options. |
c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 19 这个product line难道是manufacture的？
作为一个product line manager, 这个pay真的不高，而且还要manage 3 people
还是大公司
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: 130K Salary
: 15% performance bonus
: 10K sign-on, plus stock options.
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 20 too low for a P&L management.
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: 130K Salary
: 15% performance bonus
: 10K sign-on, plus stock options.
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 21 I thought only GM title is responsible for P&L.
【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这个product line难道是manufacture的？
: 作为一个product line manager, 这个pay真的不高，而且还要manage 3 people
: 还是大公司
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c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 22 不是的。product line manager的主要responsibility应该就是P&L好看与否吧
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: I thought only GM title is responsible for P&L.
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 23 I think at least match the salary. |
m********r
发帖数: 543 | 24 NO. Never sell yourself short. Even if you do, your boss would take it for
granted in the future years to come that you are willing to work hard while
paid lower than market value. If you are a permanent residence in this
country, I really don't see a point you have to sell yourself short like
those new-come immigrants do.
s
very
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: I'm not making a major career change -- I know the domain very well -- it's
: basically moving from PM to product line manager. But, I never had P&L
: experience. Clearly, they know it's attractive to me, and they're being very
: shrewd in low-balling me a little bit.
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p*******3
发帖数: 88 | 25 I've US citizenship.
while
【在 m********r 的大作中提到】
: NO. Never sell yourself short. Even if you do, your boss would take it for
: granted in the future years to come that you are willing to work hard while
: paid lower than market value. If you are a permanent residence in this
: country, I really don't see a point you have to sell yourself short like
: those new-come immigrants do.
:
: s
: very
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c*****v
发帖数: 839 | 26 The bottom line is that you are paid well in a start up and this offer seems
not so attractive in pay scale. The hiring companies gets the uphand as
there are no shortage of candidates in this market.
I would negotiate a little bit more but don't expect too much. If this is
the right opportunity for you, compensation will eventually catch up.
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【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: Hi,
: I really need some advice for a major career decision.
: I'm 36, really feel that I need to make a breakthrough in my career.
: I currently work at a start-up, doing product management. My title is
: director, but I don't manage anyone. In my previous job, I managed a team of
: 6 people.
: My current job is dead end in many ways.
: I just got a job offer with P&L responsibilities to manage a product line
: with annual revenue of $50M+. I'll manage 3 people. It all sounds good.
: However, the base salary com
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p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 27 耕当问奴, 织当问婢. 不要把大事去问闲杂人等.
of
【在 p*******3 的大作中提到】
: Hi,
: I really need some advice for a major career decision.
: I'm 36, really feel that I need to make a breakthrough in my career.
: I currently work at a start-up, doing product management. My title is
: director, but I don't manage anyone. In my previous job, I managed a team of
: 6 people.
: My current job is dead end in many ways.
: I just got a job offer with P&L responsibilities to manage a product line
: with annual revenue of $50M+. I'll manage 3 people. It all sounds good.
: However, the base salary com
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