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发帖数: 5637 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Parenting 讨论区 】
发信人: spectrum805 (spectrum805), 信区: Parenting
标 题: 藤校毕业证值那么多学费吗？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 8 19:12:13 2011, 美东)
担心巨额债务，越来越多的学生选择弃藤校而不上而去公立大学。这是今天的华尔街时
报文章。我也认识好几个这样的学生，不知道他们以后会不会后悔。
Fearing Massive Debt, More Students Are Choosing to Enroll at Public
Colleges Over Elite Universities.
Is an Ivy League Diploma Worth It?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020373350457702389
By MELISSA KORN
Daniel Schwartz could have attended an Ivy League school if he wanted to. He
just doesn't see the value.
Mr. Schwartz, 18 years old, was accepted at Cornell University but enrolled
instead at City University of New York's Macaulay Honors College, which is
free.
Mr. Schwartz says his family could have afforded Cornell's tuition, with
help from scholarships and loans. But he wants to be a doctor and thinks
medical school, which could easily cost upward of $45,000 a year for a
private institution, is a more important investment. It wasn't "worth it to
spend $50,000-plus a year for a bachelor's degree," he says.
As student-loan default rates climb and college graduates fail to land jobs,
an increasing number of students are betting they can get just as far with
a degree from a less-expensive school as they can with a diploma from an
elite school—without having to take on debt.
More students are choosing lower-cost public colleges or commuting to
schools from home to save on housing expenses. Twenty-two percent of
students from families with annual household incomes above $100,000 attended
public, two-year schools in the 2010-2011 academic year, up from 12% the
previous year, according to a report from student-loan company Sallie Mae.
Natasha Pearson, 19, attends Hunter College in New York City. She turned
down an offer from Boston College after the school said her family would
need to pitch in $30,000 annually.
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Such choices meant families across all income brackets spent 9% less—an
average of $21,889 in cash, loans, scholarships and other methods—on
college in 2010-11 than in the previous year, according to the report. High-
income families cut their college spending by 18%, to $25,760. The report,
which is released annually, was based on a survey of about 1,600 students
and parents.
Some students are growing more skeptical of the investment return of an
undergraduate college education, discouraged as they see recent graduates
struggle to find jobs and increasingly default on their loans. Melissa Korn
has details on Lunch Break.
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The approach has risks. Top-tier colleges tend to attract recruiting visits
from companies that have stopped visiting elsewhere. A diploma from an elite
school can look better to many recruiters and graduate schools, as well.
And overcrowding at state schools means students could be locked out of
required courses and have difficulty completing their degrees in four years.
Mr. Schwartz started at the Macaulay Honors program at Queens College this
fall with "nagging" disappointment but has come to terms with his decision.
"I have to grow up. I have to incorporate what I want and what I can have,"
he says. "Even though people say money shouldn't be everything, in this
situation, money was the most important thing."
He says he had grown enamored with the "prestige" of an Ivy League degree.
His teachers cited the networking opportunities and academic rigor. It didn'
t help that his father attended Princeton University and his uncle, Columbia
University.
"I thought that the Ivy League title would really, really boost my chances
of getting into a good med school," Mr. Schwartz says. Now, he is aiming for
top grades at Macaulay to remain competitive with Ivy League candidates.
There is little question that having a college degree gives candidates an
edge in the job market. The unemployment rate for people with a bachelor's
degree was 4.9% last month, compared with 10.5% for high-school graduates
with no degree, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
But a degree from a private college also is expensive and piles on debt. The
average debt load for students who took out loans hit a record $27,200 for
the class that graduated this year, says Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of
student-aid websites Fastweb.com and FinAid.org. That comes as general per
capita debt reached $47,260 in the second quarter, a figure that has been
dropping in recent years, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
The U.S. jobs recovery has been the slowest since the Great Depression.
Eight million jobs were lost during the last recession, but after more than
a year of steady growth, we're still more than six million in the hole. WSJ'
s Phil Izzo explains
.
Jesse Yeh, a 20-year-old California resident, chose the University of
California at Berkeley over Stanford University. Tuition at Berkeley, a
state school, is about $14,460 for in-state students. At Stanford, it's $40,
050.
Now he worries about graduating on time, having been locked out of some
overcrowded courses, including Spanish and a public-policy elective.
Berkeley says 71% of students who entered in 2006, the latest period
available, graduated within four years. At Stanford, that number is closer
to 80%.
Attending a private university still can pay off. Schools with large
endowments have beefed up their aid programs in recent years, which can make
them less expensive than their public, cash-strapped counterparts. Brown
University, for example, offers grants instead of loans for students whose
families earn less than $100,000 a year. Harvard College doesn't expect any
contribution from families with annual incomes below $60,000.
But Carl Van Horn, director of the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce
Development at Rutgers University, says graduate outcomes often have more to
do with major and how a student takes advantage of networking and
internship opportunities, than with school choice.
Natasha Pearson, 19, questions her decision to attend the City University of
New York's Hunter College. She says she turned down an offer from Boston
College after the school said her family would need to pitch in $30,000
annually.
She says there's a "wide variety" of academic ability among her Hunter
classmates and that many of her courses are taught by graduate students,
rather than by full professors.
"I can't help but wonder, had I gone to BC, where that could have taken me,"
she says.
Write to Melissa Korn at m**********[email protected] | g*******e
发帖数: 1706 | 2 Pick the school based on the ranking of the major the student is interested in, not for the brand name of the school.
For example, an Illinois resident going to UIUC for accounting is not a bad choice.
Or for that matter, CA students go to UCLA for accounting...
However for finance Harvard probably still leads the pack. | s*********5
发帖数: 5637 | 3 虽然研究表明是金子总会发光的。可是在现在这样严峻的经济环境下，我们发现名牌大
学毕业的孩子还是比较好找工作一点。现在毕业的人找工作真不容易呀。Blessing版上
的即将毕业的童鞋们。 | I*****y
发帖数: 6402 | 4 名牌大学 is a lifetime brand, so it's a very good investment to go to Ivy
League for college.
【在 s*********5 的大作中提到】
: 虽然研究表明是金子总会发光的。可是在现在这样严峻的经济环境下，我们发现名牌大
: 学毕业的孩子还是比较好找工作一点。现在毕业的人找工作真不容易呀。Blessing版上
: 的即将毕业的童鞋们。
| g*******e
发帖数: 1706 | 5 More importantly: your network at school!
【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: 名牌大学 is a lifetime brand, so it's a very good investment to go to Ivy
: League for college.
| l*****a
发帖数: 14598 | 6 Admire crazyman who has PHD degree from藤校
【在 s*********5 的大作中提到】
: 虽然研究表明是金子总会发光的。可是在现在这样严峻的经济环境下，我们发现名牌大
: 学毕业的孩子还是比较好找工作一点。现在毕业的人找工作真不容易呀。Blessing版上
: 的即将毕业的童鞋们。
| c******n
发帖数: 16403 | 7 算了吧， 版上harvard， mit， princeton的好几个， 你不知道而已。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Admire crazyman who has PHD degree from藤校
| l*****a
发帖数: 14598 | 8 I know someone who is professor
but if he is just an engineer,I wonder whether...
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 算了吧， 版上harvard， mit， princeton的好几个， 你不知道而已。
| D**********R
发帖数: 25234 | 9 我觉得这个起码比名牌衣服化妆品珠宝啥的值当吧。。。。 |
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