a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 1 剛剛看到有人在說Christian Rock
前兩天通過Last.fm + emusic剛剛認識Sufjan Stevens。恩， 相當rich而且original
的音樂。音樂複雜和厚重的程度和Beirut類似。
目前還沒有聽過來最受歡迎的曲目，但是大致總結為：
人張得很cute，聲音很溫柔，音樂很凶猛，性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。
待我聽得更多，有空再細說一下。但是現在有興趣的可以去探索一下。
最後附上歌詞中被認為是gay的部分給大家欣賞：
“The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!” - Oh, I am fast in
bed / … / Oh, how I meant to tease him / Oh, how I meant no harm /
Touching his back with my hand, I kiss him / … / He was my best friend /
into the car, from the backseat / … / I can tell you, I lov |
h*k
发帖数: 520 | 2 不能代表作有的christian rock
去聼聼crimson moonlight，呵呵
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【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 剛剛看到有人在說Christian Rock
: 前兩天通過Last.fm + emusic剛剛認識Sufjan Stevens。恩， 相當rich而且original
: 的音樂。音樂複雜和厚重的程度和Beirut類似。
: 目前還沒有聽過來最受歡迎的曲目，但是大致總結為：
: 人張得很cute，聲音很溫柔，音樂很凶猛，性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。
: 待我聽得更多，有空再細說一下。但是現在有興趣的可以去探索一下。
: 最後附上歌詞中被認為是gay的部分給大家欣賞：
: “The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!” - Oh, I am fast in
: bed / … / Oh, how I meant to tease him / Oh, how I meant no harm /
: Touching his back with my hand, I kiss him / … / He was my best friend /
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 3 我不信教，其實對Suljan是否信教不在乎啦。
【在 h*k 的大作中提到】
: 不能代表作有的christian rock
: 去聼聼crimson moonlight，呵呵
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: original
: in
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 4 嗯~欣賞音樂聼音樂就好了~
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 我不信教，其實對Suljan是否信教不在乎啦。
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R*****l
发帖数: 310 | 5 "性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。" 这个对比明显是反Christian的，呵呵
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【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 剛剛看到有人在說Christian Rock
: 前兩天通過Last.fm + emusic剛剛認識Sufjan Stevens。恩， 相當rich而且original
: 的音樂。音樂複雜和厚重的程度和Beirut類似。
: 目前還沒有聽過來最受歡迎的曲目，但是大致總結為：
: 人張得很cute，聲音很溫柔，音樂很凶猛，性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。
: 待我聽得更多，有空再細說一下。但是現在有興趣的可以去探索一下。
: 最後附上歌詞中被認為是gay的部分給大家欣賞：
: “The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!” - Oh, I am fast in
: bed / … / Oh, how I meant to tease him / Oh, how I meant no harm /
: Touching his back with my hand, I kiss him / … / He was my best friend /
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 6 我也覺得奇怪……
【在 R*****l 的大作中提到】
: "性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。" 这个对比明显是反Christian的，呵呵
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: original
: in
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | |
R*****l
发帖数: 310 | 8 really? 圣经是极端反gay的，圣经中gay就是原罪。
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 很多gay也是信基督的嘛。
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 9 有人認為那要看你怎麼去解讀聖經，不過我是沒有讀過聖經的。
但是至少可以肯定，對聖經做完全字面理解，是很荒謬的。例如反進化論。
【在 R*****l 的大作中提到】
: really? 圣经是极端反gay的，圣经中gay就是原罪。
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R*****l
发帖数: 310 | 10 呵呵，也许吧。我觉得他是故意讽刺Christan。
就像pink那些歌曲暗讽政治一样
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 有人認為那要看你怎麼去解讀聖經，不過我是沒有讀過聖經的。
: 但是至少可以肯定，對聖經做完全字面理解，是很荒謬的。例如反進化論。
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 11 好像沒有吧。至少歌詞裡面看不出來。據他自己說他去教堂的啊。
【在 R*****l 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，也许吧。我觉得他是故意讽刺Christan。
: 就像pink那些歌曲暗讽政治一样
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 12 恩，這個倒是沒什麽問題的~gay是基督教反對的
【在 R*****l 的大作中提到】
: really? 圣经是极端反gay的，圣经中gay就是原罪。
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 13 相信的話，再荒謬的內容都一樣信，圣經里面自相矛盾的東西太多了
撒旦要誘惑人，不會放過圣經的
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 有人認為那要看你怎麼去解讀聖經，不過我是沒有讀過聖經的。
: 但是至少可以肯定，對聖經做完全字面理解，是很荒謬的。例如反進化論。
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 14 hehe,depends how you interpret it.
荒謬 is not an objective word though.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 相信的話，再荒謬的內容都一樣信，圣經里面自相矛盾的東西太多了
: 撒旦要誘惑人，不會放過圣經的
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 15 今天cnn首页上都有条新闻
表示现在美国的基督徒过于obsessed with 2 issues
abortion and homosexuality
大家应该更多关注其他真正值得关注的问题
【在 h*k 的大作中提到】
: hehe,depends how you interpret it.
: 荒謬 is not an objective word though.
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 16 hmm...I don't see they are "obsessed"
there are also a lot of people got "obsessed" by politics or racism like many people
here.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 今天cnn首页上都有条新闻
: 表示现在美国的基督徒过于obsessed with 2 issues
: abortion and homosexuality
: 大家应该更多关注其他真正值得关注的问题
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 17 they are obsessed. for many religious people, these two issues are crucial
for whether they will vote for them as president or senate.
many people
【在 h*k 的大作中提到】
: hmm...I don't see they are "obsessed"
: there are also a lot of people got "obsessed" by politics or racism like many people
: here.
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h*k
发帖数: 520 | 18 hmm...that's no strange if they have the belief though.they are just
following the doctrine,yet quite reasonable.I would say someone's obsessed
when he does somehing irrationally and blindly.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: they are obsessed. for many religious people, these two issues are crucial
: for whether they will vote for them as president or senate.
:
: many people
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 19 “I am really just like John Wayne Gacy”
That song title says a lot... |
g*******a
发帖数: 1383 | |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 21 fucking chink?
【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: fucking fag...
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 22 今天revisited this issue
在songmeanings.com上有很多人参与讨论他最俱争议的几首歌。
有很多人认为他好多歌都是christian的
比如有一首歌“To be alone with you"有人说是说jesus有人说是将同性感情的。
另外还有”The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!“也是众说纷
纭。
但是总得来说，我觉得他有太多的歌似乎有暗示，太多了就有可能是故意的了。
也许是christian ＋ gay一把抓。
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【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 剛剛看到有人在說Christian Rock
: 前兩天通過Last.fm + emusic剛剛認識Sufjan Stevens。恩， 相當rich而且original
: 的音樂。音樂複雜和厚重的程度和Beirut類似。
: 目前還沒有聽過來最受歡迎的曲目，但是大致總結為：
: 人張得很cute，聲音很溫柔，音樂很凶猛，性取向是Gay，信仰是基督教。
: 待我聽得更多，有空再細說一下。但是現在有興趣的可以去探索一下。
: 最後附上歌詞中被認為是gay的部分給大家欣賞：
: “The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!” - Oh, I am fast in
: bed / … / Oh, how I meant to tease him / Oh, how I meant no harm /
: Touching his back with my hand, I kiss him / … / He was my best friend /
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 23 Sufjan Stevens isn't a Christian Rock act, per se. A conventional CR act use
their lyrics to promote Christianity and to praise their god, whereas some
of the subjet matter in Sufjan's works are indeed spiritual, they're not
used exclusively to promote Christianity in that respect.
Furthermore, Sufjan's view towards his own faith is rather airy. He thinks
God embodies everything of the universe, therefore everything and everyone
is part of God. He has expressed his faith and distanced himself fr |
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 24 自己写的么？英文真好
use
some
【在 o********r 的大作中提到】
: Sufjan Stevens isn't a Christian Rock act, per se. A conventional CR act use
: their lyrics to promote Christianity and to praise their god, whereas some
: of the subjet matter in Sufjan's works are indeed spiritual, they're not
: used exclusively to promote Christianity in that respect.
: Furthermore, Sufjan's view towards his own faith is rather airy. He thinks
: God embodies everything of the universe, therefore everything and everyone
: is part of God. He has expressed his faith and distanced himself fr
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 25 Oh, by the way, his name Sufjan is Persian and was given to him by the
leader of a cult sect his parents belong to... |
o********r
发帖数: 303 | 26 Anyway, Sufjan makes great records, that's what we really care. |
o********r
发帖数: 303 | 27 Sufjan wrote this song for gay mass killer John Wayne Gacy, Jr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg1H_muHC3g&mode=related&search=
俺在伦敦的Barbican Centre看他现场时他也是这一身行头的说。 |
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 28 if so, then the "to be alone with you" is much less likely about Jesus.
Lyrics as below:
>>>
I'd swim across lake Michigan
I'd sell my shoes
I'd give my body to be back again
In the rest of the room
To be alone with you X4
You gave your body to the lonely
They took your clothes
You gave up a wife and a family
You gave your goals
To be alone with me X3
You went up on a tree
To be alone with me you went up on the tree
I'll never know the man who loved me
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use
some
【在 o********r 的大作中提到】
: Sufjan Stevens isn't a Christian Rock act, per se. A conventional CR act use
: their lyrics to promote Christianity and to praise their god, whereas some
: of the subjet matter in Sufjan's works are indeed spiritual, they're not
: used exclusively to promote Christianity in that respect.
: Furthermore, Sufjan's view towards his own faith is rather airy. He thinks
: God embodies everything of the universe, therefore everything and everyone
: is part of God. He has expressed his faith and distanced himself fr
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 29 好羡慕okcomputer可以去看现场
radiohead不知道你看了多少了。。。iamx看过吗？
I know his name is said to be Arabic and from some religous people given to
his parents. His brother's name is not "American" either.
Sufjan有一张专辑是按照中国12生肖来做的。基本上是实验电子。。。不过我目前只听
了rat和rabbit |
o********r
发帖数: 303 | 30 是啊，还行吧，谢谢你啦！@^@
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
俺不是一个完全底文盲，俺还选修过英国文学呢。
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 自己写的么？英文真好
:
: use
: some
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 31 没看过iamx的现场，俺对Chris Corner不是特感冒的说。以前在伦敦住的时候倒是没少
看现场，现在俺在威尔士住着就不行了。没什么乐队往这边跑的，害的俺老得跑布里斯
托去看演出。
to
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 好羡慕okcomputer可以去看现场
: radiohead不知道你看了多少了。。。iamx看过吗？
: I know his name is said to be Arabic and from some religous people given to
: his parents. His brother's name is not "American" either.
: Sufjan有一张专辑是按照中国12生肖来做的。基本上是实验电子。。。不过我目前只听
: 了rat和rabbit
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