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l***y
发帖数: 791
1
猜火车 (trainspotting)
这本书 初一上手总觉得没有结构。每章的每一个小节好像都是可以独立的短篇。实际上
,有好几个短篇在猜火车成书前在别处已经独立发表过了。这也是猜火车有意思的地方。
尽管总体上讲,内容不雅(或者说不健康)(吸毒,暴力,SEX,等等),但是IRVINE WELSH
能把故事讲得有滋有味。故事里的主要人物几乎都是二三十岁蹦迪打群架的年轻人,
而这些故事本身仿佛也借这些人的活力而活泼起来。就是这样,很黑色也很活泼,很真切
而丝毫没有浪漫。拍出来的电影和原书一比,浪漫多了去了。
黑色的描写并不都是为了玩笑。板起脸来,写现实之不美,写某几个人行为经历之怪诞,
并不是什么时新的事。(从这个角度上想,也没什么不健康。)猜火车里的马克看不到现实
里有什么希望,而和朋友一起吸毒也不过是一起遭罪而已。就这样,吸毒是受罪,戒了毒
也还是受罪,马克到底还是顶不住,闪了朋友们逃掉了。
喜欢看WELSH用他们苏格兰的方言写,即便马克,算是假书生会讲官话的,也要跟你讲土
话,或是土官结合四不像。成功的语言总是能轻易就把情绪传给读者,并且给人充分的享
受。猜火车的语言算是成功的,特
j*******e
发帖数: 30
2
I cast my eyes on the customers' reviews in amazon.co.uk,and found they reko
n it a masterpiece as you do. SO I decide rush to Waterstone to get on and s
pend my weekend on that..i hope I read something, really something...:)

【在 l***y 的大作中提到】
: 猜火车 (trainspotting)
: 这本书 初一上手总觉得没有结构。每章的每一个小节好像都是可以独立的短篇。实际上
: ,有好几个短篇在猜火车成书前在别处已经独立发表过了。这也是猜火车有意思的地方。
: 尽管总体上讲,内容不雅(或者说不健康)(吸毒,暴力,SEX,等等),但是IRVINE WELSH
: 能把故事讲得有滋有味。故事里的主要人物几乎都是二三十岁蹦迪打群架的年轻人,
: 而这些故事本身仿佛也借这些人的活力而活泼起来。就是这样,很黑色也很活泼,很真切
: 而丝毫没有浪漫。拍出来的电影和原书一比,浪漫多了去了。
: 黑色的描写并不都是为了玩笑。板起脸来,写现实之不美,写某几个人行为经历之怪诞,
: 并不是什么时新的事。(从这个角度上想,也没什么不健康。)猜火车里的马克看不到现实
: 里有什么希望,而和朋友一起吸毒也不过是一起遭罪而已。就这样,吸毒是受罪,戒了毒

j*******e
发帖数: 30
3
found myself totally Lost due to the slang or whatever you call it...Have
u guys got any idea of how to get used to this?
I just cant understand it so easily...

【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: I cast my eyes on the customers' reviews in amazon.co.uk,and found they reko
: n it a masterpiece as you do. SO I decide rush to Waterstone to get on and s
: pend my weekend on that..i hope I read something, really something...:)

F**********e
发帖数: 2135
4
赫赫没看过原书,但一直觉得电影里这段话特有张力,不直到是不是书中原话?
Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career.
Choose a family. Choose a fucking big tv,
choose washing machines, cars, compact disc
players. Choose your friends. Choose a
three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range
of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering
who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning.
Choose your future. Choose life.

【在 l***y 的大作中提到】
: 猜火车 (trainspotting)
: 这本书 初一上手总觉得没有结构。每章的每一个小节好像都是可以独立的短篇。实际上
: ,有好几个短篇在猜火车成书前在别处已经独立发表过了。这也是猜火车有意思的地方。
: 尽管总体上讲,内容不雅(或者说不健康)(吸毒,暴力,SEX,等等),但是IRVINE WELSH
: 能把故事讲得有滋有味。故事里的主要人物几乎都是二三十岁蹦迪打群架的年轻人,
: 而这些故事本身仿佛也借这些人的活力而活泼起来。就是这样,很黑色也很活泼,很真切
: 而丝毫没有浪漫。拍出来的电影和原书一比,浪漫多了去了。
: 黑色的描写并不都是为了玩笑。板起脸来,写现实之不美,写某几个人行为经历之怪诞,
: 并不是什么时新的事。(从这个角度上想,也没什么不健康。)猜火车里的马克看不到现实
: 里有什么希望,而和朋友一起吸毒也不过是一起遭罪而已。就这样,吸毒是受罪,戒了毒

l***y
发帖数: 791
5
//faint. tough. i was broken in by Twain's Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
Once you've got the hang of it, it stays with you.
for starters,
ah --> I
wi --> we
aw --> all
ken --> know
yin --> one
bairn --> kid
fae --> from
tae --> to
nae --> no
mair --> more
thir --> their
yir --> your
fir --> for
oot --> out
roond --> round
... ...
My theory is that it strengthens your English skills. :))
Also, do use the dictionary at the back. If it's too much trouble, return the
book and rent the movie. :)

【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: found myself totally Lost due to the slang or whatever you call it...Have
: u guys got any idea of how to get used to this?
: I just cant understand it so easily...

l***y
发帖数: 791
6
Recommand, at least, the quotes on IMDB.com.
http://us.imdb.com/Quotes?0117951
The below quote you listed here is from the section "Searching for the inner
man". Very introspective chapter. The whole paragraph sais
"Society invents a spurious convoluted logic tae absorb and change people
whae's behaviour is outside its mainstream. Suppose that ah ken aw the pros
and cons, know that ah'm agunnae huv a short life, am ay sound mind etctera,
etcetea, but still want tae use smack? They won't let ye d

【在 F**********e 的大作中提到】
: 赫赫没看过原书,但一直觉得电影里这段话特有张力,不直到是不是书中原话?
: Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career.
: Choose a family. Choose a fucking big tv,
: choose washing machines, cars, compact disc
: players. Choose your friends. Choose a
: three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range
: of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering
: who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning.
: Choose your future. Choose life.

j*******e
发帖数: 30
7
I havent been there anyway...but if these are, it cant be what would be in t
he book, the book are wrote using quite a lot slangs..

【在 F**********e 的大作中提到】
: 赫赫没看过原书,但一直觉得电影里这段话特有张力,不直到是不是书中原话?
: Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career.
: Choose a family. Choose a fucking big tv,
: choose washing machines, cars, compact disc
: players. Choose your friends. Choose a
: three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range
: of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering
: who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning.
: Choose your future. Choose life.

j*******e
发帖数: 30
8
Yes indeed. I have to read it out in a I-SO-CALLED-Scottish-Accent to unders
tand it..

【在 l***y 的大作中提到】
: //faint. tough. i was broken in by Twain's Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
: Once you've got the hang of it, it stays with you.
: for starters,
: ah --> I
: wi --> we
: aw --> all
: ken --> know
: yin --> one
: bairn --> kid
: fae --> from

j*******e
发帖数: 30
9
I do I have some trouble in the first three pages:)
And I would lik tae watch the movies as well..

【在 l***y 的大作中提到】
: //faint. tough. i was broken in by Twain's Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
: Once you've got the hang of it, it stays with you.
: for starters,
: ah --> I
: wi --> we
: aw --> all
: ken --> know
: yin --> one
: bairn --> kid
: fae --> from

r********t
发帖数: 18
10
电影里有那么一幕是被列入最恶心场景之一的, 小心了.:-)
男主角据说就是演moulin rouge的那个, 真看不出来.

【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: I do I have some trouble in the first three pages:)
: And I would lik tae watch the movies as well..

l***y
发帖数: 791
11
恶心吗。嘿嘿。现代文学里头scatology也是有的。这个比JOYCE还更好理解一些。
BTW,记得小时候看三国觉得诸葛亮挺恶心的,那么着就把白周逾给憋死了。
EWAN是演了moulin rouge。不过这一部是很早的(1997),拿了EMPIRE奖。
最近又有一部<年轻的亚当>是在他家乡苏格兰拍的,也是黑色的文学片。
在嘎纳卖的不错。他又在里面 大脱了一把,甚为得意。:)

Finn.
return the

【在 r********t 的大作中提到】
: 电影里有那么一幕是被列入最恶心场景之一的, 小心了.:-)
: 男主角据说就是演moulin rouge的那个, 真看不出来.

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