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k*****e
发帖数: 1235
1
一个3岁小女孩因为被狗咬了脸上有难看的伤疤。她妈妈带她去KFC的时候,KFC员工叫
她们离开,理由是小女孩的脸吓到了其他顾客。这个事情传开以后遭到舆论抨击,KFC
也为这个员工的所作所为道歉。
http://www.abc15.com/news/national/family-says-girl-scarred-by-
JACKSON, MS - A 3-year-old girl who was attacked by pit bulls in April was
asked to leave a restaurant in Mississippi because her scars scared
customers, the girl's grandmother told a television station there.
The family of Victoria Wilcher took to social media to call out KFC because
of the treatment the family said it got in a Jackson, Mississippi restaurant.
"Does this face look scary to you?" accompanied a picture of Victoria
Wilcher on the Facebook page Victoria's Victories , which documents the
child's recovery from an attack at her grandfather's home in which three
dogs mauled the girl, police said.
"The right side of her face is paralyzed. She's got a lot of surgeries to go
through and she won't even look in the mirror anymore," Victoria's
grandmother, Kelly Mullins, told WAPT-TV . "When we go to a store, she doesn
't even want to get out (of the car). She's 3 years old and she's
embarrassed about what she looks like. She's embarrassed, and I hate it
because she shouldn't be. It ain't her fault."
Victoria hadn't felt that way until last week, when she was turned away from
a KFC, Mullins said.
"I ordered a large sweet tea and her some mashed potatoes and gravy because
she was hungry. She was on a feeding tube at the time, but I figured she
could just swallow (the potatoes)," Mullins said. "They said, 'We have to
ask you to leave because her face is disrupting our customers.' (Victoria)
understood exactly what they said."
Mullins said she put Victoria in the car and left and that Victoria cried
all the way home.
"No matter what's wrong with a person, if a person's different, if a person'
s scarred, or is a different color or anything, people shouldn't be
discriminated against," Mullins said. "Her being 3 years old and already
being discriminated against, it makes me mad, because I know for the rest of
her life it's going to be like that."
KFC officials sent an email to WAPT in response to the incident.
"KFC launched an investigation as soon as we were made aware of this report.
We take this very seriously, as we have zero tolerance for any kind of
hurtful or disrespectful actions toward our guests. Our investigation is
ongoing, but we have been in touch with the family and are committed to
doing something appropriate for this beautiful little girl and her family.
We will also work with the franchisee to take appropriate action at the
restaurant once the specifics of the incident are determined," said KFC
spokesman Rick Maynard.
Victoria is on antibiotics and still has more surgeries ahead of her, but
she's doing well, her grandmother said.
"She surprised us. I think she surprised everybody. She's a fighter,"
Mullins said.
Copyright 2014 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may
not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
D**S
发帖数: 24887
2
K,难道这个案例值得商榷么,或者你本人立场待定? 抑或是,你仅仅是找了一个更易于
理解的情形来帮助那些坚信商家可以随意选择顾客的ID们?
k*****e
发帖数: 1235
3
本人立场待定。我还没想明白。
其实各种情形之间并没有类比性,
并不能从某一个例子出发就得出商家可以选择或者商家不可以选择的结论。
把各种例子举出来,是想找到规律,什么情况可以拒绝,什么情况不可以。

【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: K,难道这个案例值得商榷么,或者你本人立场待定? 抑或是,你仅仅是找了一个更易于
: 理解的情形来帮助那些坚信商家可以随意选择顾客的ID们?

m**n
发帖数: 9010
4
根据前面的例子, 这件事如果当地法律没有针对"长相"的反歧视条文,
那么这行为不违法.
至于KFC为了公关原因做什么, 与法律无关.

KFC
because
restaurant.

【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 一个3岁小女孩因为被狗咬了脸上有难看的伤疤。她妈妈带她去KFC的时候,KFC员工叫
: 她们离开,理由是小女孩的脸吓到了其他顾客。这个事情传开以后遭到舆论抨击,KFC
: 也为这个员工的所作所为道歉。
: http://www.abc15.com/news/national/family-says-girl-scarred-by-
: JACKSON, MS - A 3-year-old girl who was attacked by pit bulls in April was
: asked to leave a restaurant in Mississippi because her scars scared
: customers, the girl's grandmother told a television station there.
: The family of Victoria Wilcher took to social media to call out KFC because
: of the treatment the family said it got in a Jackson, Mississippi restaurant.
: "Does this face look scary to you?" accompanied a picture of Victoria

m**n
发帖数: 9010
5
我们立场摇摆是可以理解的.
但我想知道现在法庭的立场是什么? 是严格根据法律具体条文
规定来判断, 还是根据引申的法律精神理解来判断?

【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 本人立场待定。我还没想明白。
: 其实各种情形之间并没有类比性,
: 并不能从某一个例子出发就得出商家可以选择或者商家不可以选择的结论。
: 把各种例子举出来,是想找到规律,什么情况可以拒绝,什么情况不可以。

D**S
发帖数: 24887
6
K哥,你好像现在太学究了。我觉得这些东东,严谨的思辨也不一定能确定无疑地界定
出来个清晰的最终边界,还是“common sense”更好施行一些,虽然这东西本身也在演
化之中。我想,公正和无害是准则吧。

【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 本人立场待定。我还没想明白。
: 其实各种情形之间并没有类比性,
: 并不能从某一个例子出发就得出商家可以选择或者商家不可以选择的结论。
: 把各种例子举出来,是想找到规律,什么情况可以拒绝,什么情况不可以。

k*****e
发帖数: 1235
7
我同意这个问题可能确实没有一个清晰的边界。
但是也不能不学究啊,学究学究毕竟能让模糊的东西变得相对清晰起来。
common sense是个更加模糊,更加不可靠的东西。
比如你的common sense,piaoguo同学的common sense,
还有那位"马上高潮"先生的common sense,肯定大不一样吧。
毕竟我过去的道德准则一直都是建立在“学究”的基础上,
反多数人的common sense的,一下子不学究了来common sense,不习惯啊。
一般情况下,无害是一个通用准则,
现在这个情况之所以复杂,就是怎么做都有害,
只能是看看两害相权取其轻了。所以才各种情况各有不同的决策。

【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: K哥,你好像现在太学究了。我觉得这些东东,严谨的思辨也不一定能确定无疑地界定
: 出来个清晰的最终边界,还是“common sense”更好施行一些,虽然这东西本身也在演
: 化之中。我想,公正和无害是准则吧。

t*******e
发帖数: 2113
8
老K可以再念個法學博士,然後去修個judge 課程,
當法官合適!

【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我同意这个问题可能确实没有一个清晰的边界。
: 但是也不能不学究啊,学究学究毕竟能让模糊的东西变得相对清晰起来。
: common sense是个更加模糊,更加不可靠的东西。
: 比如你的common sense,piaoguo同学的common sense,
: 还有那位"马上高潮"先生的common sense,肯定大不一样吧。
: 毕竟我过去的道德准则一直都是建立在“学究”的基础上,
: 反多数人的common sense的,一下子不学究了来common sense,不习惯啊。
: 一般情况下,无害是一个通用准则,
: 现在这个情况之所以复杂,就是怎么做都有害,
: 只能是看看两害相权取其轻了。所以才各种情况各有不同的决策。

R****y
发帖数: 456
9
同意10086

【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我同意这个问题可能确实没有一个清晰的边界。
: 但是也不能不学究啊,学究学究毕竟能让模糊的东西变得相对清晰起来。
: common sense是个更加模糊,更加不可靠的东西。
: 比如你的common sense,piaoguo同学的common sense,
: 还有那位"马上高潮"先生的common sense,肯定大不一样吧。
: 毕竟我过去的道德准则一直都是建立在“学究”的基础上,
: 反多数人的common sense的,一下子不学究了来common sense,不习惯啊。
: 一般情况下,无害是一个通用准则,
: 现在这个情况之所以复杂,就是怎么做都有害,
: 只能是看看两害相权取其轻了。所以才各种情况各有不同的决策。

k*****e
发帖数: 1235
10
那么多文献,读起来都头大。
要是有只读网络文献,灌水写论文的学位。我肯定毕业了!哈哈哈

【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 老K可以再念個法學博士,然後去修個judge 課程,
: 當法官合適!

l****z
发帖数: 29846
11
律师能选客户嘛?
m**n
发帖数: 9010
12
从前面CO州的反歧视法中, 针对的"Discrmination in places of public
accomodation"的解释(见76楼), 我认为不包括一般的律师接受客户的行为.

【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 律师能选客户嘛?
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