L*******e
发帖数: 2202 | 1 On Friday, an article in The Daily Beast revealed that two United States
Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) District Offices have both
confirmed that that alien relative petitions and green card applications
filed by married same-sex couples will not be denied.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-25/gay-i
same-sex-marriage-lifeline/# |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | |
k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 4 what!
意思是说在能结婚的州，哪怕是只有州法承认，联邦法不承认，
也可以向联邦申请绿卡？
【在 L*******e 的大作中提到】
: On Friday, an article in The Daily Beast revealed that two United States
: Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) District Offices have both
: confirmed that that alien relative petitions and green card applications
: filed by married same-sex couples will not be denied.
: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-25/gay-i
: same-sex-marriage-lifeline/#
|
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 5 我的理解是指的别国注册的同性婚姻，比如你partner是加拿大人，你俩在加拿大注册
结婚了，你可以在美国帮他申请绿卡。
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: what!
: 意思是说在能结婚的州，哪怕是只有州法承认，联邦法不承认，
: 也可以向联邦申请绿卡？
|
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 6 我还特意check了下日历，看看今天是不是愚人节。。 |
k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 7 lol...
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 我还特意check了下日历，看看今天是不是愚人节。。
|
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 8 On Friday, an article in The Daily Beast revealed that two United States
Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) District Offices have both
confirmed that that alien relative petitions and green card applications
filed by married same-sex couples will not be denied.
Stop The Deportations explains the historical significance of these actions:
"Instead, final decisions on these applications will be held in abeyance, i
.e. put on hold. This historic first seems to be directly linked to the
Obama administration's change of position on DOMA announced on February 23.
The DOMA Project welcomes the new and exciting potential this presents for
married gay and lesbian couples to obtain legal status and prevent
deportations of the foreign partner. However, in this new and rapidly
changing legal environment, we urge attorneys and binational couples to
proceed with an abundance of caution."
"The significance of the 'abeyance' policy is two-fold: first, it means that
petitions and applications that normally would have been denied because of
DOMA, will now remain in "pending" status, and second, this status will give
protection and benefits to the applicant for an indefinite period. The "
abeyance" policy, it is presumed, will put these cases on hold while the
ultimate fate of DOMA is determined by a decision of the Supreme Court or
through repeal by Congress."
Last week, Andy reported a judge suspended deportation proceedings in the
case of binational lesbian couple Monica Alcota and Cristina Ojeda and
allowed the couple to apply for a green card.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2011/03/united-states-.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+towleroad%2Ffeed+%28Towleroad+Daily++%23gay+news%29#ixzz1Hpn2TDM0 |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 9 1。married 定义是什么？
2。abeyance意思PENDING，既不拒也不批。在PENDING期间，同性和异性SPOUSE有一样
的权利吗？有EAD么？
3。只要不是法，GOP当了总统，就有回到解放前了。最后结果还是看国会和COURT。
4。OBAMA is a very very smart man. OBAMA万岁！ |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | |
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 11 http://www.stopthedeportations.com/
This tremendous news comes after months of advocacy by national immigration
law and policy groups, LGBT organizations and advocates including The DOMA
Project. While The DOMA Project has focused primarily on stopping
deportations, we have also engaged in wide-ranging advocacy and provided
legal representation in related cases where couples are fighting separation
or exile.
As readers of this site know, since July 2010 we have filed more than a
dozen alien relative petitions on behalf of gay or lesbian American citizens
for their spouses as part of our Stop The Deportations campaign. Our
campaign has been successful in slowing and stopping several deportations
through a combination of legal strategies and aggressive advocacy efforts,
including reaching out to members of Congress and working closely with
executive branch agencies.
In the coming days and weeks, the attorneys at Masliah & Soloway, who
launched The DOMA Project last year, will be filing green card cases on
behalf of several same-sex binational couples who are not currently facing
deportation proceedings. We have been working for months with hundreds of
binational couples in an effort to determine which couples are in the best
position to file green card petitions and applications. For some couples, we
believe that time is now.
This latest evolution in our strategy to aggressively fight for binational
couples is the culmination of an 18-year long commitment by our law firm&#
9135;led by two gay immigrants⎯to fight for an end to discrimination
against lesbian and gay binational couples.
This latest evolution in our strategy to aggressively fight for binational couples is the culmination of an 18-year long commitment by our law firm⎯led by two gay immigrants⎯to fight for an end to discrimination against lesbian and gay binational couples.
USCIS District Offices to Accept Green Card Applications
from Gay Couples and Hold Them in Abeyance
What does this mean for an estimated 36,000 binational couples?
Some married gay and lesbian binational couples will now have an opportunity to take a major leap toward full equality under our nation's immigration laws. However, it is important to remember that DOMA is still the law of the land and despite this tremendous news, filing green card applications in this uncertain environment could result in a foreign spouse being placed in removal (deportation) proceedings. For that reason, no couple should make a move toward marrying or filing on the basis of the marriage without first consulting an immigration attorney with specific expertise in both LGBT immigration issues and the developing landscape of DOMA.
Generally, the risk all couples face if they chose to file is that they may ultimately be placed into removal proceedings. Because the announced policy is one that was developed at the discretion of the District Directors of the offices involved, it is not yet known whether this policy will be extended nationally nor whether it may be changed in the future. Again, it bears repetition that couples and their attorneys must proceed with extreme caution.
This development will have the greatest impact on two groups of couples:
1. Married gay and lesbian couples where the foreign spouse lawfully entered the United States but is now an "overstay" and without lawful status. For these couples, the filing of an alien relative petition and application for adjustment of status to permanent resident should automatically give temporary lawful status to the foreign spouse for the duration of the period that the case is pending. If these applications are in fact held in abeyance until DOMA's final demise, this could mean that couples who have wrestled for years with the nightmare of deportation, separation and instability caused by a lack of lawful status may now be on the verge of a new reality. The foreign spouse will not only receive (temporary) lawful status, but also employment authorization and potentially other benefits, as long as they have a pending green card application. Unfortunately, despite the temptation that this will present to many couples, for many it will be better to wait until there is greater certainty about this policy and the future of DOMA.
2. Married gay and lesbian couples who are already facing removal (deportation) proceedings. It is now likely that we will be able to stop virtually all deportation proceedings involving married gay and lesbian couples who have filed green card petitions/applications and who are, but for DOMA, otherwise eligible to receive a green card based on their marriage. Even couples in removal (deportation) proceedings must proceed cautiously when considering whether to marry and file a green card petition/application based on that marriage. However, unlike those who are not in proceedings, the risk of deportation is very real, and the likelihood is that this new development will provide protection to almost every couple facing deportation, if they are currently in proceedings.
There is light at the end of the tunnel for binational couples. The individual stories of binational couples suffering separation, exile or the threat of deportation continue to be our most important weapon in the fight against DOMA. There is still a long road ahead before we achieve full equality and we cannot be complacent.
Please contact us at stopthedeportations [at] gmail.com if you want to get involved in our work or if you have any questions about the new "abeyance" policy. |
w*****8
发帖数: 703 | 12 This is really good progress. |
k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 13 突然感觉一下往前大跃进了二十年...
我的脑子还在“不会吧”这个状态中...
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: 1。married 定义是什么？
: 2。abeyance意思PENDING，既不拒也不批。在PENDING期间，同性和异性SPOUSE有一样
: 的权利吗？有EAD么？
: 3。只要不是法，GOP当了总统，就有回到解放前了。最后结果还是看国会和COURT。
: 4。OBAMA is a very very smart man. OBAMA万岁！
|
e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 14 如果同时还用其他方式，比如申请了EB2之类的，可以share 一下status不？这样是不
是就不用排期了呀
（my daydreaming...) |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 15 大家都准备好给obama的campaign捐款吧！拼死了也得让obama连任
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: 1。married 定义是什么？
: 2。abeyance意思PENDING，既不拒也不批。在PENDING期间，同性和异性SPOUSE有一样
: 的权利吗？有EAD么？
: 3。只要不是法，GOP当了总统，就有回到解放前了。最后结果还是看国会和COURT。
: 4。OBAMA is a very very smart man. OBAMA万岁！
|
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 16 看来这个政策主要是针对那几对面临着被递解出境的非法移民的
=========================================================
Breakthrough on Immigration Rights?
Andrew Harmon
IMMIGRATION GENERIC X390 (FAIR USE) | ADVOCATE.COM
Described by one attorney as a “game changer” that could bring parity to
LGBT individuals in the U.S. immigration system, two district immigration
offices have recently decided to put on hold marriage-based green card
applications in cases involving binational gay couples.
Newsweek/The Daily Beast reported Friday that immigration offices in
Baltimore and Washington, D.C. were putting green card applications and
alien relative petitions involving married, binational gay couples on hold,
effectively deferring potential deportation proceedings. The move comes just
weeks after the Obama administration announced it would no longer defend
Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act in several legal challenges against
the 1996 law.
Whether the decisions reflect a broader policy change on the national level
remains a matter of speculation. “We have not implemented any change in
policy and intend to follow the president's directive to continue enforcing
the law,” USCIS press secretary Christopher Bentley told Newsweek/The Daily
Beast.
That statement is identical to one sent to The Advocate from an Immigration
and Customs Enforcement (ICE) spokeswoman regarding an ICE attorney’s
agreement with immigration attorney Lavi Soloway last week in New York
Immigration Court to adjourn deportation hearings in the case of Monica
Alcota, an Argentine woman who married her American citizen spouse, Cristina
Ojeda, last year in Connecticut (the couple lives in New York). Alcota and
Ojeda are the first married gay couple to argue in court that a pending
deportation should be suspended as a result of the Obama administration's
February announcement regarding DOMA.
“For privacy reasons, we cannot comment on the specifics of this case
without the individual’s consent,” ICE acting press secretary Barbara
Gonzalez continued in an e-mail response. “What I can tell you, however, is
that it is not uncommon for ICE to agree to adjournments.”
Reached on Sunday, Soloway said he intends to file three more green card
applications on behalf of married, gay binational clients in the near future
— none of whom are currently in deportation proceedings nor reside in the
districts that have gone on record in putting a hold on such applications.
“What’s happened around the country suggests that the policy is not
limited to those district offices,” Soloway said. “There’s a strong
indication that other districts either already are holding such cases in
abeyance or will hold such cases in abeyance.”
“This is not about enforcing DOMA,” Soloway continued. “The question here
is, What is the appropriate policy [for married binational gay couples] in
the interim period when the law is subject to repeal and has been shown to
be vulnerable to constitutional challenge in federal court?”
Soloway has repeatedly advised, however, that binational gay couples seek
legal counsel prior to filing any marriage-based petition or green card
application.
Over the past month, three Congressional representatives — Reps. Zoe
Lofgren of California, and Jerrold Nadler and Joseph Crowley of New York,
have all called on the administration to put on hold any deportation
proceedings involving married, bi-national gay couples.
"Ultimately the DOMA law needs to be repealed,” Crowley told The Advocate
last week. “But what’s paramount is that families need to be able to stay
together." |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 17 I think so. 但是申请EB2你知道7-8年后你能被批准。这个就不一定了。
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 如果同时还用其他方式，比如申请了EB2之类的，可以share 一下status不？这样是不
: 是就不用排期了呀
: （my daydreaming...)
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R*****G
发帖数: 1665 | 18 这个进展, 主要针对：一方有绿卡/公民身份，一方则无。
所以橄榄树同学的那个EB2，应该还比较遥远。
Abeyonce这个状态也很诡异。------不过，对很多gay/les couple，可能可以为他
们/她们赢得宝贵的斡旋时间。
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: I think so. 但是申请EB2你知道7-8年后你能被批准。这个就不一定了。
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Z****r
发帖数: 157 | 19 CNN廣播網報導，一名持觀光簽證進入美國，卻逾期非法居留的阿根廷婦女，已獲准暫
緩驅逐出境，以待澄清她的同性婚姻是否合法。
35歲的莫妮卡‧阿科塔(Monica Alcota)來美已超過10年，去年在康州與25歲的美
國公民Cristina Ojeda結婚，而她們的律師索洛威辯稱這應使阿科塔有資格在美國永久
居留。
康州最高法院裁定同性伴侶有權利結婚。
法官和政府律師22日同意暫停原定在曼哈坦移民法庭舉行的驅逐聽證。索洛威表示，法
官並未說明暫緩開庭的理由，不過法官和政府律師都同意一些通則，包括歐巴馬總統指
示司法部不要為婚姻保護法第三條辯護。這個條款把婚姻定義為一男一女的結合。
紐約大學法學院教授南西‧莫如維茲(Nancy Morawetz)說，法官的決定符合司法
部的立場，這也是正確決定，因為驅逐案是否合法，將視婚姻保護法最後的情況而定。
她表示，這項決定很重要，因為許多有關移民法的問題關乎婚姻狀況。
由前總統柯林頓簽署的婚姻保護法，禁止聯邦承認同性婚姻，也規定不能強迫各州承認
別的州認可的同性婚姻。
移民平等組織把法官的決定稱為「同性戀家庭的突破性時刻」，天主教聯盟則表示遺憾
。
http://www.worldjournal.com/view/aUSnews/12517374/article-%E8%8 |
p*****o
发帖数: 1010 | 20 且不说同性婚合法与否。非法移民可以通过与当地人结婚不经过回国，转成合法永久居
民吗?这个问题比较复杂。绿卡申请中一个重要环节就是检查申请过程中有无长时间非
法居留美国。这个法官的勇气可嘉，但是这个问题跟同性伴侣的移民问题捆绑在一起。
不知道是不是好事。
【在 Z****r 的大作中提到】
: CNN廣播網報導，一名持觀光簽證進入美國，卻逾期非法居留的阿根廷婦女，已獲准暫
: 緩驅逐出境，以待澄清她的同性婚姻是否合法。
: 35歲的莫妮卡‧阿科塔(Monica Alcota)來美已超過10年，去年在康州與25歲的美
: 國公民Cristina Ojeda結婚，而她們的律師索洛威辯稱這應使阿科塔有資格在美國永久
: 居留。
: 康州最高法院裁定同性伴侶有權利結婚。
: 法官和政府律師22日同意暫停原定在曼哈坦移民法庭舉行的驅逐聽證。索洛威表示，法
: 官並未說明暫緩開庭的理由，不過法官和政府律師都同意一些通則，包括歐巴馬總統指
: 示司法部不要為婚姻保護法第三條辯護。這個條款把婚姻定義為一男一女的結合。
: 紐約大學法學院教授南西‧莫如維茲(Nancy Morawetz)說，法官的決定符合司法
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o****g
发帖数: 657 | 21 接下来是不是military版要反gay marriage的外F了？
可是要是中国top找米国btm的话那又是F外，呵呵。
【在 L*******e 的大作中提到】
: On Friday, an article in The Daily Beast revealed that two United States
: Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) District Offices have both
: confirmed that that alien relative petitions and green card applications
: filed by married same-sex couples will not be denied.
: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-25/gay-i
: same-sex-marriage-lifeline/#
|
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 22 good point
【在 p*****o 的大作中提到】
: 且不说同性婚合法与否。非法移民可以通过与当地人结婚不经过回国，转成合法永久居
: 民吗?这个问题比较复杂。绿卡申请中一个重要环节就是检查申请过程中有无长时间非
: 法居留美国。这个法官的勇气可嘉，但是这个问题跟同性伴侣的移民问题捆绑在一起。
: 不知道是不是好事。
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R*****G
发帖数: 1665 | 23 这个倒不妨。配偶之间的团聚，这是家庭价值的直接体现。这一观念深入美国的立法
和司法程序。异性恋婚姻，只要一方是美国公民/绿卡，且婚姻被法律认可为真实婚
姻，即使另一方是非法移民，因此洗白也困难不大，不过是个时间问题。------美
国人头痛的非法移民问题，主要是指那些彻头彻尾的非法劳工。他们/她们中得绝大
多数，都不可能通过婚姻使身份合法。
不过，这个办法，其目的，并不是能够让你的同性伴侣申请到绿卡-----在DOMA存在
的前提下，这其实是不可能的------而是，在DOMA的命运被决定之前，
让你的同性伴侣能够合法的留在美国。
总而言之，除非你的伴侣是濒临(或已临)被遣返且无其他途径可走，我觉得这条路子不
值得推荐。
【在 p*****o 的大作中提到】
: 且不说同性婚合法与否。非法移民可以通过与当地人结婚不经过回国，转成合法永久居
: 民吗?这个问题比较复杂。绿卡申请中一个重要环节就是检查申请过程中有无长时间非
: 法居留美国。这个法官的勇气可嘉，但是这个问题跟同性伴侣的移民问题捆绑在一起。
: 不知道是不是好事。
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L*******e
发帖数: 2202 | 24 http://www.towleroad.com/2011/03/us-agency-confirms-binational-
Following the immigration news that broke over the weekend, MetroWeekly has
received confirmation from Christopher Bentley, the spokesman for the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services, that decisions regarding green card
applications for binational same-sex couples have been put on hold based on
questions surrounding DOMA.
MetroWeekly reports:
Bentley writes, "USCIS has issued guidance to the field asking that related
cases be held in abeyance while awaiting final guidance related to distinct
legal issues."
He notes, however, "USCIS has not implemented any change in policy and
intends to follow the President's directive to continue enforcing the law."
The legal distinction means that although DOMA is still being enforced, the
USCIS is using its discretion to hold off on denying green card applications
where applicable. |
e****y
发帖数: 271 | 25 版上好多同志都太悲观了,之前对DOMA的预测都是5年,10年;我觉得2012年大选之前,
DOMA必死
是不是bush8年没有任何进展把大家压迫坏了?
从2008加州公投到现在,美国民意应该发生了很大变化吧
大家身边有没有平常美国人从不支持gay marriage转变为支持的例子? |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 26 我这个乐观派都要说2012年废除DOMA的可能性是零。说点靠谱的吧。
【在 e****y 的大作中提到】
: 版上好多同志都太悲观了,之前对DOMA的预测都是5年,10年;我觉得2012年大选之前,
: DOMA必死
: 是不是bush8年没有任何进展把大家压迫坏了?
: 从2008加州公投到现在,美国民意应该发生了很大变化吧
: 大家身边有没有平常美国人从不支持gay marriage转变为支持的例子?
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L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | 27 那同性的孩子呢?比如试管的,或者领养的怎么算? |
k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 28 据我所知，异性结婚的绿卡申请是可以的，
看过一个文章，说那些黑下来的人，要洗白成绿卡，
只有两种可能，一个是大赦，一个是结婚。
就是说婚姻绿卡不管你过去有没有非法居留史，
这个跟EB1, EB2之类都不太一样。
【在 p*****o 的大作中提到】
: 且不说同性婚合法与否。非法移民可以通过与当地人结婚不经过回国，转成合法永久居
: 民吗?这个问题比较复杂。绿卡申请中一个重要环节就是检查申请过程中有无长时间非
: 法居留美国。这个法官的勇气可嘉，但是这个问题跟同性伴侣的移民问题捆绑在一起。
: 不知道是不是好事。
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