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Quant版 - 【Martingale】一个问题
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y**********0
发帖数: 425
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从Qd转换到Qf
likelihood ratio is d(Ld)=Ld*ud(t)*dWp(dWp is Brownian Motion under
P(real)
martingale)
d(Lf)=Lf*uf(t)*dWp
从Qd到Qf的
L=Lf/Ld
那么 dL=L*(uf(t)-ud(t))*dWp
但是这里就有问题了,从Qd转换到Qf时上面的dWp应该是dWd吧(under Qd martingale)
从Qd到Qf的likelihood ratio的kernel 应该是uf(t)-ud(t)对吧,书上是这么说的,但
是得到的公式却出现了dWp而不是dWd。问题在哪里呢?谢谢。
Q***5
发帖数: 994
2
It seems that the author has omitted the drifting terms in all the equations
, only showed the volatility part -- which is the same under all the
equivalent processes.
y**********0
发帖数: 425
3

equations
hope you read more books about martingale.
Here we are talking about likelihood ratio, not the martingale dynamics of
asset.

【在 Q***5 的大作中提到】
: It seems that the author has omitted the drifting terms in all the equations
: , only showed the volatility part -- which is the same under all the
: equivalent processes.

Q***5
发帖数: 994
4

not a very good attitude -- but I will ignore it this time :-)
asset.>
These two are closely related, think about numeraries.
r**a
发帖数: 536
5
我也觉得有问题。最后的方程少了一个drift。
假设real prob is Q_p, the two martingale measures are Q_f, Q_d. According to
the equations of likelihood process, we have
dQ_d/dQ_p=L_d and dQ_f/dQ_p=L_f
So L_f/L_d=dQ_f/dQ_d, this implies that there exists a kernel \phi(t) such
that under the measure Q_d, we have
d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d
Now if we change the measure Q_d to Q_p, the dW_d should be replaced by (dW_
p-u_d*dt).Thus there is a drift term appearing in the final result.
Another way to think about this is to use the Ito's formula on L_f/L_d
directly when you calculate d(L_f/L_d). Finally, you'll find the answer
gotten from above two ways are consistant.
y**********0
发帖数: 425
6

to
dW_
right, there should be a drift,
but it's like this d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_p+(...)dt. (based on the
math deduction d(L_f/L_d)=.....(using dL_f=L_f*uf*dW_p,dL_d=L_d*ud*dW_p)
how you get this d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d, how you get dW_d instead
of dW_p, and the \phi(t)here should be uf-ud, right? Anyway, can you give
the way to get d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d,

【在 r**a 的大作中提到】
: 我也觉得有问题。最后的方程少了一个drift。
: 假设real prob is Q_p, the two martingale measures are Q_f, Q_d. According to
: the equations of likelihood process, we have
: dQ_d/dQ_p=L_d and dQ_f/dQ_p=L_f
: So L_f/L_d=dQ_f/dQ_d, this implies that there exists a kernel \phi(t) such
: that under the measure Q_d, we have
: d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d
: Now if we change the measure Q_d to Q_p, the dW_d should be replaced by (dW_
: p-u_d*dt).Thus there is a drift term appearing in the final result.
: Another way to think about this is to use the Ito's formula on L_f/L_d

r**a
发帖数: 536
7

the

instead
You can check that L_f/L_d is the likelihood process corresponding changing
measure from Q_d to Q_f. We all know that the likelihood process is a
martingale, so there should exist \phi(t) such that d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\
phi(t)*dW_d. The key is what this \phi is.
and the \phi(t)here should be uf-ud, right?
Yes, \phi(t)=uf-ud. I got this from Ito formula calculation. I do not know
how to get it directly from d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d. The point
here is that if you plug \phi(t)=uf-ud into d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_
d and change dW_d to dW_p-u_d*dt, then you can recover the result gotten
from applying Ito's formula.
Anyway, can you give

【在 y**********0 的大作中提到】
:
: to
: dW_
: right, there should be a drift,
: but it's like this d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_p+(...)dt. (based on the
: math deduction d(L_f/L_d)=.....(using dL_f=L_f*uf*dW_p,dL_d=L_d*ud*dW_p)
: how you get this d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d, how you get dW_d instead
: of dW_p, and the \phi(t)here should be uf-ud, right? Anyway, can you give
: the way to get d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\phi(t)*dW_d,

y**********0
发帖数: 425
8
well, thank you.
i finally found that i made a big mistake when calculating the derivatation
of likelihood process which shuold NOT be like this: d(L_f/L_d)={d(L_f)*L_d-
L_f*d(L_d)}/square(L_f). So all the problems have been solved.

changing

【在 r**a 的大作中提到】
:
: the
:
: instead
: You can check that L_f/L_d is the likelihood process corresponding changing
: measure from Q_d to Q_f. We all know that the likelihood process is a
: martingale, so there should exist \phi(t) such that d(L_f/L_d)=(L_f/L_d)*\
: phi(t)*dW_d. The key is what this \phi is.
: and the \phi(t)here should be uf-ud, right?
: Yes, \phi(t)=uf-ud. I got this from Ito formula calculation. I do not know

r**a
发帖数: 536
9
This mistake is not rare :)

derivatation
d-

【在 y**********0 的大作中提到】
: well, thank you.
: i finally found that i made a big mistake when calculating the derivatation
: of likelihood process which shuold NOT be like this: d(L_f/L_d)={d(L_f)*L_d-
: L_f*d(L_d)}/square(L_f). So all the problems have been solved.
:
: changing

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