n*******1
发帖数: 554 | 1 如果有人已经有人问过了。很抱歉，错过了
想听听专业意见，cho算不算得上paranoid schizophrenia？Autism是肯定的
如果是，那他应该是有predisposition的，这类人会不会被生活中其他frustration
triger而发病。 比如没被bully过，但迟早会因为不顺心发病？ |
y******g
发帖数: 317 | 2 是不是antisocial personality disorder呢？
【在 n*******1 的大作中提到】
: 如果有人已经有人问过了。很抱歉，错过了
: 想听听专业意见，cho算不算得上paranoid schizophrenia？Autism是肯定的
: 如果是，那他应该是有predisposition的，这类人会不会被生活中其他frustration
: triger而发病。 比如没被bully过，但迟早会因为不顺心发病？
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j****e
发帖数: 245 | 3 I don't think Cho had autism. Social isolation does not suffice the
diagnosis of autism, which is a developmental disorder.
【在 n*******1 的大作中提到】
: 如果有人已经有人问过了。很抱歉，错过了
: 想听听专业意见，cho算不算得上paranoid schizophrenia？Autism是肯定的
: 如果是，那他应该是有predisposition的，这类人会不会被生活中其他frustration
: triger而发病。 比如没被bully过，但迟早会因为不顺心发病？
|
I**********s
发帖数: 1573 | 4 So is he mentally ill at all?
I think he does have extremely negative personality, but not necessarily
mental illness.
【在 j****e 的大作中提到】
: I don't think Cho had autism. Social isolation does not suffice the
: diagnosis of autism, which is a developmental disorder.
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w****r
发帖数: 17566 | 5 The absence of love is evil.
Cho did has extremely negative personality, and isolates himself to the
society. But it seems that people around him ignored him for a long time
also. Should more people near him had tried to care him and approach his
heart, big tragedy like this might not happen.
We might never known whether Cho is mentally ill or not, or how serious he
was ill in his last days, since no evaluation nor treatment had been
performed at that time. His roomies reported that his behavior
【在 I**********s 的大作中提到】
: So is he mentally ill at all?
: I think he does have extremely negative personality, but not necessarily
: mental illness.
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 6 Cho is certainly NOT antisocial. He WANTED to fit in.
People with antisocial personality disorder are often very successful in a
competitive society like US. They are more likely to be your boss than to be
a killer. |
I**********s
发帖数: 1573 | 7 According to his roomates and friends, when they made effort to make friends
with him, he refused.
The thing I don't understand is whether he really WANTED to fit in or not.
If he really did, I don't think it will be too hard. He's smart, talented in
some senses, and comparatively good looking. So if he REALLY want to, he
actually had many potentials to be popular in some way.
be
and
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: Cho is certainly NOT antisocial. He WANTED to fit in.
: People with antisocial personality disorder are often very successful in a
: competitive society like US. They are more likely to be your boss than to be
: a killer.
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 8 You really believe those people's words? They are the ones who contributed
to his problem. Instead, reading Cho's statements, you can see that he
wanted to become a normal person.
I feel I can understand Cho's mental state, because I myself have always
been an introvert person and never fit in. People who lack social skills are
often more socially sensitive than normal people. If you "make effort" to
talk to him, he can feel that you are not treating him as a normal kid. Of
course he will resist
【在 I**********s 的大作中提到】
: According to his roomates and friends, when they made effort to make friends
: with him, he refused.
: The thing I don't understand is whether he really WANTED to fit in or not.
: If he really did, I don't think it will be too hard. He's smart, talented in
: some senses, and comparatively good looking. So if he REALLY want to, he
: actually had many potentials to be popular in some way.
:
: be
: and
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 9 Concur. From his actions and statements, he doesn't seem to have autism.
【在 j****e 的大作中提到】
: I don't think Cho had autism. Social isolation does not suffice the
: diagnosis of autism, which is a developmental disorder.
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 10 My experience tells me that very few, if any, people really feel
they fit in regardless of the environment.
I hope all parents understand that and help their kids understand that
as well.
are
s
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: You really believe those people's words? They are the ones who contributed
: to his problem. Instead, reading Cho's statements, you can see that he
: wanted to become a normal person.
: I feel I can understand Cho's mental state, because I myself have always
: been an introvert person and never fit in. People who lack social skills are
: often more socially sensitive than normal people. If you "make effort" to
: talk to him, he can feel that you are not treating him as a normal kid. Of
: course he will resist
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I**********s
发帖数: 1573 | 11 Why? I thought lack of eye contact and no response to others are two vital
signs for autism. Seems he had both problems.
【在 j****e 的大作中提到】
: I don't think Cho had autism. Social isolation does not suffice the
: diagnosis of autism, which is a developmental disorder.
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d**e
发帖数: 9591 | 12 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: You really believe those people's words? They are the ones who contributed
: to his problem. Instead, reading Cho's statements, you can see that he
: wanted to become a normal person.
: I feel I can understand Cho's mental state, because I myself have always
: been an introvert person and never fit in. People who lack social skills are
: often more socially sensitive than normal people. If you "make effort" to
: talk to him, he can feel that you are not treating him as a normal kid. Of
: course he will resist
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 13 You are certainly correct. I would argue that Cho's family contribute at
least half of the problem.
However, the point I wanted to make, is about the lessons the society should
learn from this unfortunate incident. Placing all the blame on Cho, or
simply labeling him a maniac is the worst thing the society can do, because
nothing positive is achieved that way.
The resistance to change to one's own behavior is great. It is much easier
to blame others than to introspect oneself. The society as a
【在 d**e 的大作中提到】
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 14 Well, I agree. Afraid of being different is one of the main obstacles in a
lot of people's growth. I think I've overcome this obstacle, thanks to the
support I got from my family and people around me. We should help kids with
the similar problem.
【在 r******s 的大作中提到】
: My experience tells me that very few, if any, people really feel
: they fit in regardless of the environment.
: I hope all parents understand that and help their kids understand that
: as well.
:
: are
: s
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d**e
发帖数: 9591 | 15 ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: You are certainly correct. I would argue that Cho's family contribute at
: least half of the problem.
: However, the point I wanted to make, is about the lessons the society should
: learn from this unfortunate incident. Placing all the blame on Cho, or
: simply labeling him a maniac is the worst thing the society can do, because
: nothing positive is achieved that way.
: The resistance to change to one's own behavior is great. It is much easier
: to blame others than to introspect oneself. The society as a
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x**c
发帖数: 1435 | 16 No one is born a cheese-off-cracker, Chao was kept out of his peers'loop ,
some kind ones offered him chances, but those offeres saved no spilled milk
because Chao was deeply messed at a younger age when peers looked at him
funny and tossed him out of the class. Chao worked up crazy finally but he
was not cut out crazy.
【在 n*******1 的大作中提到】
: 如果有人已经有人问过了。很抱歉，错过了
: 想听听专业意见，cho算不算得上paranoid schizophrenia？Autism是肯定的
: 如果是，那他应该是有predisposition的，这类人会不会被生活中其他frustration
: triger而发病。 比如没被bully过，但迟早会因为不顺心发病？
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