b***i
发帖数: 3043 | 1 Silverlight使用.net，嵌入浏览器，沙箱，是不是完全和Java对等？ |
g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 2 No, Silverlight is counter part of JavaFX.
JavaFX is kind of late, but SL isn't successful either.
Flex dominates nowadays.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: Silverlight使用.net，嵌入浏览器，沙箱，是不是完全和Java对等？
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 3 Sadly, that's true. Probably more because sl or javafx
are both trying to play catching up, without any game
changing feature...
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: No, Silverlight is counter part of JavaFX.
: JavaFX is kind of late, but SL isn't successful either.
: Flex dominates nowadays.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 4
I'm not sure Flash even counts as worthy competition to Silverlight.
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: Sadly, that's true. Probably more because sl or javafx
: are both trying to play catching up, without any game
: changing feature...
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 5 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Slaps-Adobe-in-Flash-vs-Silverlight-Adoption-Measuring-Contest-104381.shtml
According to this report which is a M$ propoganda, flash is available on
90% of PC, while Silverlight is 25%, talk about worthy competition.
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: I'm not sure Flash even counts as worthy competition to Silverlight.
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t****t
发帖数: 6806 | 6 Future! Oh, no, wait, it's trend!
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: I'm not sure Flash even counts as worthy competition to Silverlight.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 7
Isn't the gap just one Windows Update away from being filled? Not quite
worthy to me.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Slaps-Adobe-in-Flash-vs-Silverlight-Adoption-Measuring-Contest-104381.shtml
: According to this report which is a M$ propoganda, flash is available on
: 90% of PC, while Silverlight is 25%, talk about worthy competition.
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c*****t
发帖数: 1879 | 8 Hmm, too many artists use Mac... Tell them to switch first...
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Isn't the gap just one Windows Update away from being filled? Not quite
: worthy to me.
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m*****e
发帖数: 4193 | 9 So why has it not happened?
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Isn't the gap just one Windows Update away from being filled? Not quite
: worthy to me.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 10
Maybe b/c they are confident enough that SL will get there w/o such
tactics.
【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: So why has it not happened?
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 11
M$ is not there to compete w/ Flash. In their eyes, Flash is a tool for
these artists and designers while SilverLight is a real platform, part
of their .Net strategies, that's why I say M$ is not that hell-bent on
fighting Adobe. It's these Adobe guys getting overly nervous.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: Hmm, too many artists use Mac... Tell them to switch first...
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 12 According to wiki, IE6 has 42.62% while IE8 has 21.88% of all IE market
share.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Msieshare1
Shouldn't it be just a windows update and everybody is on IE8? IE6 has
been there for like 10 years already. It's not happening.
If you are a content provider, what will you do when you know 75% of users
won't be able to render your website to begin with?
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: M$ is not there to compete w/ Flash. In their eyes, Flash is a tool for
: these artists and designers while SilverLight is a real platform, part
: of their .Net strategies, that's why I say M$ is not that hell-bent on
: fighting Adobe. It's these Adobe guys getting overly nervous.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 13 You are in all future mode. Grandmother old Ajax is a real platform and
people
are using it on daily base. Silverlight is not a worthy competition right
now.
With more rich components added into html5, SL's future isn't bright.
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: M$ is not there to compete w/ Flash. In their eyes, Flash is a tool for
: these artists and designers while SilverLight is a real platform, part
: of their .Net strategies, that's why I say M$ is not that hell-bent on
: fighting Adobe. It's these Adobe guys getting overly nervous.
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 14 I'd like to also point out that install rate is not
adoption rate. IE might be installed on all the Windows
PCs but lots of people don't use it at all.
At one point, maybe silverlight will be forced installed
to all windows PCs (but i doubt it, because MS can't
even force installing security updates, let alone IE8,
let alone SilverLight), let's say MS gets desperate,
it doesn't mean the web sites will be using it, because
they've invested in Flash for years and years. Don't
count on them switchi
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: M$ is not there to compete w/ Flash. In their eyes, Flash is a tool for
: these artists and designers while SilverLight is a real platform, part
: of their .Net strategies, that's why I say M$ is not that hell-bent on
: fighting Adobe. It's these Adobe guys getting overly nervous.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 15
If it takes just a few clicks to set it up, I won't even bother whether
it's 75% or 0%.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are in all future mode. Grandmother old Ajax is a real platform and
: people
: are using it on daily base. Silverlight is not a worthy competition right
: now.
: With more rich components added into html5, SL's future isn't bright.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 16 Right, and why are clients becoming thinner and thinner nowadays?
Ain't most patches can be obtained with a few clicks?
Man, maybe you should get out of your cave.
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: If it takes just a few clicks to set it up, I won't even bother whether
: it's 75% or 0%.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 17
Which is future really, H5 or SL? W/ SL I code a 3-tier web app in one
language, one platform through and through. That's lots more efficient than
doing it in H5 where I have to use Javascript on client side sth
else on server and handle all these unnecessary heavy lifting by self.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are in all future mode. Grandmother old Ajax is a real platform and
: people
: are using it on daily base. Silverlight is not a worthy competition right
: now.
: With more rich components added into html5, SL's future isn't bright.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 18
Yeah, command line consoles are thin enough. Are they gonna take over
from the fat GUI according to you?
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Right, and why are clients becoming thinner and thinner nowadays?
: Ain't most patches can be obtained with a few clicks?
: Man, maybe you should get out of your cave.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 19
Like I said, SL is not there to strike Flash out. Although the Flash
designers will not change their habit, millions Asp.Net programmers
would like to. When I was writing Asp.Net code, I got sick and tired
of all the client-side javascript hacks. I've been waiting for a real
.Net client for a long time.
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: I'd like to also point out that install rate is not
: adoption rate. IE might be installed on all the Windows
: PCs but lots of people don't use it at all.
: At one point, maybe silverlight will be forced installed
: to all windows PCs (but i doubt it, because MS can't
: even force installing security updates, let alone IE8,
: let alone SilverLight), let's say MS gets desperate,
: it doesn't mean the web sites will be using it, because
: they've invested in Flash for years and years. Don't
: count on them switchi
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 20
than
Oh well, what a brilliant idea, and why did M$ come up with .net and
boasting language neutral to begin with? If you really want to do it
with one language, didn't java had that for like 15 years ago already?
What's so special about SL?
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Like I said, SL is not there to strike Flash out. Although the Flash
: designers will not change their habit, millions Asp.Net programmers
: would like to. When I was writing Asp.Net code, I got sick and tired
: of all the client-side javascript hacks. I've been waiting for a real
: .Net client for a long time.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 21 command line consoles are thinner than plain old html + javascripts?
I don't think so. Have you ever thought about why grandmother old
ajax grows so big and not your favorite SL?
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Like I said, SL is not there to strike Flash out. Although the Flash
: designers will not change their habit, millions Asp.Net programmers
: would like to. When I was writing Asp.Net code, I got sick and tired
: of all the client-side javascript hacks. I've been waiting for a real
: .Net client for a long time.
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k***r
发帖数: 4260 | 22 So now you have SL. The question is, will your
customer be happy with it? If it's for corporate app,
probably. If it's a public app, most likely not.
And you think M$ doesn't want to strike out flash?
Thank again :)
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Like I said, SL is not there to strike Flash out. Although the Flash
: designers will not change their habit, millions Asp.Net programmers
: would like to. When I was writing Asp.Net code, I got sick and tired
: of all the client-side javascript hacks. I've been waiting for a real
: .Net client for a long time.
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m*****e
发帖数: 4193 | 23 赞淡定
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
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: Like I said, SL is not there to strike Flash out. Although the Flash
: designers will not change their habit, millions Asp.Net programmers
: would like to. When I was writing Asp.Net code, I got sick and tired
: of all the client-side javascript hacks. I've been waiting for a real
: .Net client for a long time.
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h***i
发帖数: 1970 | 24 其实大多数艺术家都是用linux
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: Hmm, too many artists use Mac... Tell them to switch first...
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