f****a
发帖数: 847 | 1 看测评说这个头素质不错,全副上不输700-800的新科黑头。
刚刚想bid结果没几分钟快过百了。老头ca明显, vignneting soft corner, 老coating
会有光晕色差。
我的心理价位对老头没这么高。大家怎么看? |
f****a
发帖数: 847 | 2 就这陈色镜头里还有 internal dust,你说大家是不是缺啊?
coating
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 看测评说这个头素质不错,全副上不输700-800的新科黑头。
: 刚刚想bid结果没几分钟快过百了。老头ca明显, vignneting soft corner, 老coating
: 会有光晕色差。
: 我的心理价位对老头没这么高。大家怎么看?
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 3 老头我一般都不超过30刀
买杂牌的会比较便宜(Vivitar,Kiron,TOKINA)
只要日本本土厂家代工的质量都不会差
韩国，台湾代工的质量就会差些
coating
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 看测评说这个头素质不错,全副上不输700-800的新科黑头。
: 刚刚想bid结果没几分钟快过百了。老头ca明显, vignneting soft corner, 老coating
: 会有光晕色差。
: 我的心理价位对老头没这么高。大家怎么看?
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 4 30-40年前的日本本土厂家代工的资料全吗？请问在哪儿查这方面信息？多谢 |
f****a
发帖数: 847 | 5 还有就是要考虑杂牌好像不太好出手，基本就是自己recycle 掉了。如果30-40买来一
个残货就当垃圾处理了？ |
D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 6 所以我杂牌都是十几刀收
品牌货也就二十几刀收
出手也不会亏多少
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 还有就是要考虑杂牌好像不太好出手，基本就是自己recycle 掉了。如果30-40买来一
: 个残货就当垃圾处理了？
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 7 品牌货二十几刀那得人品好才能几年一遇。最近想入个24-28mm aps-c 上等效35mm左右
的大光圈的广角老头 品相牌子好点的都要过80-100啦。
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 所以我杂牌都是十几刀收
: 品牌货也就二十几刀收
: 出手也不会亏多少
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 8 Kiron,TOKINA，Tomioka，COSINA 日本代工貌似就这几家
Tomioka代工的有Chinon，Sears，Rikenon，Yashinon，Mamiya-Sekor，Revuenon
COSINA代工包括：蔡司，徠卡，福倫達等等
Kiron,TOKINA代工的如 Vivitar Series 1等
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 30-40年前的日本本土厂家代工的资料全吗？请问在哪儿查这方面信息？多谢
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 9 多谢爱因斯坦兄指教。
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: Kiron,TOKINA，Tomioka，COSINA 日本代工貌似就这几家
: Tomioka代工的有Chinon，Sears，Rikenon，Yashinon，Mamiya-Sekor，Revuenon
: COSINA代工包括：蔡司，徠卡，福倫達等等
: Kiron,TOKINA代工的如 Vivitar Series 1等
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 10 Beston M.C. 28mm f/2.8 Camera Lens $10
我就经常买这样的镜头，哈哈~~~
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beston-M-C-28mm-f-2-8-Camera-Lens-/2816
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 品牌货二十几刀那得人品好才能几年一遇。最近想入个24-28mm aps-c 上等效35mm左右
: 的大光圈的广角老头 品相牌子好点的都要过80-100啦。
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | |
f****a
发帖数: 847 | |
l********y
发帖数: 2489 | 13 30买砸手里，不如150买180卖。我推荐尼康的手动头，素质还可以，也相对便宜，流通
性比那些绝版口的好。24 2, 2.8, 28 2, 2.8的ai或ais版都拿的出手。我买过个杂牌
28 2.8头连胶片都拍不清，以后再不买了。 |
D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 14 就十刀而已，多买几个，留下喜欢的，剩下的出掉，亏不了几块钱
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: Beston M.C.
: http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/beston-mc-28mm-f2-8.htm
: 貌似没什么review.就像买彩票一样。
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 15 这个好像还行， 是谁代工的？是fd mount?
不过测评一般
http://cannonfastreviews.com/toufive-star-28mm-2-8-auto-mc/
哈哈
Sharpness
f/2.8: A little bit soft and lower contrast, with some coma, spherical
aberration and a fair bit of chromatic aberration.
f/3.5: Doesn’t sharpen up much, but has better contrast and way less coma
and spherical aberration but still a fair bit of chromatic aberration.
f/4: Sharpens up a little bit more, but way better contrast and only a hind
of chromatic aberration.
f/8: Fairly sharp with good contrast but never gets super sharp.
Vignetting
Quite a bit of vignetting at f/2.8 clearing off around f/4 and gone by f/8.
Distortion
A fair bit of Barrel Distortion which is typical for a 28mm.
Recommendations
On MF Camera
Optics: ★ ★
Mechanics: ★ ★ ★ ★
Ergonomics: ★ ★ ★
Usefulness: ★ ★ ★
Availability: ★
Overall: ★ ★ ★
On AF Camera
Ergonomics: ★ ★
Overall: ★ ★
Out of 5
What I like about this lens is that it is a really well built, all metal
lens but is very light to carry or put in your pocket. The focus ring is a
little small but is still a really easy lens to use.
Optically this lens is not anything special and takes a while to sharpen up,
but if you find a good deal then it’s a fun lens to try out. I wouldn’t
go out of my way to find one though.
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 又一个，呵呵~~~
: Tou Five Star MC Auto f2.8 28mm $12.95
: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tou-Five-Star-MC-Auto-1-2-8-f-28mm-Macr
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 16 我想这就是所谓的以贩养吸吧。所以炒老头的就是这个心里。。。
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 30买砸手里，不如150买180卖。我推荐尼康的手动头，素质还可以，也相对便宜，流通
: 性比那些绝版口的好。24 2, 2.8, 28 2, 2.8的ai或ais版都拿的出手。我买过个杂牌
: 28 2.8头连胶片都拍不清，以后再不买了。
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | |
f****a
发帖数: 847 | 18 测评还不赖，可是bokeh不好玩
http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_2210.html
Mechanical quality 4.00 1
Optical quality 4.00 1
Usability 4.00 1
Pricing / Value 5.00 1
Bokeh 3.00 1
Overall lens rating
4.00
I think only Osawa built some lenses for the Mamiya CS or E mount. This
lenses was sold under different brand : Bell & Howell (which was property of
Osawa itself), Omestar, Quantaray, Revuenon, Soligor and peharps others.
The Revuenon is a special case as the ZE-2, the ZE-X and some accessories
were also sold under this brand (See Ron's site), the standard 50mm lenses
were Mamiya one but all the other seems to be Osawa lenses as far as I know.
Osawa lenses seems to be lesser in quality than the Mamiya ones as read in
several forums. But it is not my subject, I want to etablish a catalog of
these lenses.
Note : As this message is the first of the thread, it will be updated to
present the catalog.
I class the lenses in two categories, different by their external aspect :
- The "colorfull" which is the oldest one. The inscriptions are in flashy
red and yellow, with red and green ones.
- The "White-Yellow" wich contains the Mark II series. The inscriptions are
in white and dark yellow . These lenses were the last produced ones.
The White-Yellow serie (Mark II named zoom)
Fixed lenses
- 28mm/f2.8 (exist also as revuenon)
- 135mm/f.28 (exist also as revuenon)
Zooms
- 28-50mm/f3.5-4.5
- 28-70mmF2.8/4 (exist only as revuenon)
- 28-80mm/f3.5-4.5 (exist also as revuenon)
- 28-84mm/f3.5-4.5 (exist only as revuenon)
- 28-90mm/f3.5-4.5 (never seen)
- 35-70mm/f3.5-4.5
- 35-105mm/f3.5-4.5
- 60-300/mmf5.6
- 70-150mm/f3.8
- 70-210mm/f4-5
- 80-200mm/f4.5-5.6 (exist also as revuenon)
- 80-205mm/f4.5 (exist also as revuenon)
- 70-220mm/f4.5 (seen in this thread)
- 75-260mm/f4.5
- 100-200mm/f4-5
Colorfull serie
Fixed lenses
- 24mm/f2.8 (never seen)
- 28mm/f2.8
- 135mm/f2.8
- 200mm/f4 (never seen)
- 300mm/f5.5 (never seen)
- 400mm/f5.6 (never seen)
- 650mm/f8.5 (mirror lens)
Zooms
- 24-43mm/f3.5-4.5 (seen in this thread)
- 28-80mmF3.5-4.5 (seen in this thread)
- 35-70mmF3.5-4.5
- 38-70mmF3.5-4.5
- 70-150mmF/3.8
- 80-205mm/f4.5
- 60-300mm/f5
There is some chance that some fixed lenses or zoom in the white-yellow
serie were produced also in this one, but I never see one, nor found any
information about.
All the official documentation I've found, concern the lenses of the yellow-
white serie.
Notes about the comment
- I saw at least one time the lenses without any comment.
- never seen : I never see the lens anywhere, but I read or hear something
about.
- exist as revuenon : this lens was sold by Quelle rebranded as revuenon in
the MCE serie (Mamiya E mount)
- seen in this thread : a post give some informations or show pics about
this lens.
This one exist in CS mount under Osawa, Bell &Howell (Varionar) brands.
- 70-150/f3.8
All informations, pics, experience are welcome
Note : Tamron and Sigma, rebranded as Soligor, have produced adapter for
Mamiya camera to their own system : adaptall or YS for example. It is not my
purpose to develop these special mounts in this forum.
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 还有这个 OSAWA MC 28mm F2.8
: 估计12刀左右就可以拿下
: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OSAWA-MC-28mm-1-2-8-Canon-FD-mount-with
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 19 看测评大部分人认为canon 和Olympus 手动老头在这些焦段表现都比鞋厂的出色。
我喜欢Olympus 的compactness 加上转接头也不大。
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 30买砸手里，不如150买180卖。我推荐尼康的手动头，素质还可以，也相对便宜，流通
: 性比那些绝版口的好。24 2, 2.8, 28 2, 2.8的ai或ais版都拿的出手。我买过个杂牌
: 28 2.8头连胶片都拍不清，以后再不买了。
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 20 ............
10刀，你还能要求啥？
最好的应该就是Nikon之类的,不过价格只能呵呵~~
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/28mm_3.html
【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 测评还不赖，可是bokeh不好玩
: http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_2210.html
: Mechanical quality 4.00 1
: Optical quality 4.00 1
: Usability 4.00 1
: Pricing / Value 5.00 1
: Bokeh 3.00 1
: Overall lens rating
: 4.00
: I think only Osawa built some lenses for the Mamiya CS or E mount. This
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 21 高富帅吸白粉，穷学生吸糖粉， 屌丝们吸洗衣粉。
但洗衣粉不求有多香，只求去污力强。
哈哈
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: ............
: 10刀，你还能要求啥？
: 最好的应该就是Nikon之类的,不过价格只能呵呵~~
: http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/28mm_3.html
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 22 OSAWA 貌似性价比高，可以拿来玩玩。 多谢
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 还有这个 OSAWA MC 28mm F2.8
: 估计12刀左右就可以拿下
: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OSAWA-MC-28mm-1-2-8-Canon-FD-mount-with
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 23 Sigma EX 24 mm F/1.8 ASP EX DG Lens For Minolta/Sony
这个不算老镜头，但是也百来块，还有auto focus与鞋厂手动头比如何？
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: 30买砸手里，不如150买180卖。我推荐尼康的手动头，素质还可以，也相对便宜，流通
: 性比那些绝版口的好。24 2, 2.8, 28 2, 2.8的ai或ais版都拿的出手。我买过个杂牌
: 28 2.8头连胶片都拍不清，以后再不买了。
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p**********t
发帖数: 3680 | 24 用残幅就没有这个麻烦，直接买Sigma 30mm 2.8就行了，二手也就150，新的才两百。
色彩好，锐度高。 |
f****a
发帖数: 847 | 25 全副上
残幅头就要开crop mode 玩了....
。
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: 用残幅就没有这个麻烦，直接买Sigma 30mm 2.8就行了，二手也就150，新的才两百。
: 色彩好，锐度高。
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f****a
发帖数: 847 | 26 而且这个换算成全副就是
asp-c： 45mm
m43: 60mm
都不符合等效 35mm walk around lens的要求啊。
。
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: 用残幅就没有这个麻烦，直接买Sigma 30mm 2.8就行了，二手也就150，新的才两百。
: 色彩好，锐度高。
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