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t*******r
发帖数: 22634
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The Inaccuracies of the IQ
http://bagoflightbulbs.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/the-inaccuracie
关键段落
Take Geral Darrow – a Quiz Kid in the 40’s, dazzling adults with his
brilliance. He died at age forty-seven after relying on welfare for years
due to his poor health. Or Willie Sidis, who graduated high school at the
mere age of eight and lectured at Harvard at eleven. He grew up to neglect
intellectualism of any sort and worked at menial tasks. He died at age forty
-six in a rented room. Why is that? “The tests do not measure many of the
qualities necessary for achievement in the world of work, such as
persistence, self-confidence, motivation, and interpersonal skills, or the
ability to set priorities and to allocate one’s time and effort efficiently
. In addition, the creativity and intuition responsible for great
achievements in both science and the arts are not evaluated in I.Q. tests”
(Marom).
i*****t
发帖数: 24265
2
发明智商测试题的,是不是更加有智商?
t*******r
发帖数: 22634
3
我再从文中节选一段
First, you have to know what the I.Q. test is. The I.Q. test was developed
in the early 1900s to identify mentally retarded children for a French
government program. The test was created by Alfred Binet. Binet developed
the concept of mental age, which was linked with the chronological age to
develop the I.Q. in the following equation: (mental age/chronological age) x
100 = I.Q. So, if a ten year-old had the mind of a thirteen year-old, he
would have a 130 I.Q. On the other hand, if that ten year-old functioned as
an eight year-old, he would have an 80 I.Q.

【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 发明智商测试题的,是不是更加有智商?
k****r
发帖数: 851
4
被tag成天才对发展persistence啥的是极为不利的.大家不都觉得天才就是做什么都不
费吹灰之力吗.persistence不就是做好久都做不好还不停的努力吗.说一个人
persistent就否定了他天才. 小孩子往往喜欢天才的glamor,不喜欢被夸persistent.
其实,天才做真正有点难度事情也是会很费劲的.考试考的好考的快只是因为考试太简单
了.几个小时就能作出答案的东西,怎么可能难?

forty

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: The Inaccuracies of the IQ
: http://bagoflightbulbs.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/the-inaccuracie
: 关键段落
: Take Geral Darrow – a Quiz Kid in the 40’s, dazzling adults with his
: brilliance. He died at age forty-seven after relying on welfare for years
: due to his poor health. Or Willie Sidis, who graduated high school at the
: mere age of eight and lectured at Harvard at eleven. He grew up to neglect
: intellectualism of any sort and worked at menial tasks. He died at age forty
: -six in a rented room. Why is that? “The tests do not measure many of the
: qualities necessary for achievement in the world of work, such as

t*******r
发帖数: 22634
5
台下总是要拼小时数的我想。。。考试那四个小时也就是个台上表演,那当然不能磕磕
碰碰。。。

【在 k****r 的大作中提到】
: 被tag成天才对发展persistence啥的是极为不利的.大家不都觉得天才就是做什么都不
: 费吹灰之力吗.persistence不就是做好久都做不好还不停的努力吗.说一个人
: persistent就否定了他天才. 小孩子往往喜欢天才的glamor,不喜欢被夸persistent.
: 其实,天才做真正有点难度事情也是会很费劲的.考试考的好考的快只是因为考试太简单
: 了.几个小时就能作出答案的东西,怎么可能难?
:
: forty

d****g
发帖数: 7460
6
而且,根据大脑剪枝理论,如果家长过度干预或不干预,下列技能可能被剪掉。。
persistence,
self-confidence,
motivation,
interpersonal skills,
the ability to set priorities and to allocate one’s time and effort
efficiently
creativity
intuition

forty

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: The Inaccuracies of the IQ
: http://bagoflightbulbs.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/the-inaccuracie
: 关键段落
: Take Geral Darrow – a Quiz Kid in the 40’s, dazzling adults with his
: brilliance. He died at age forty-seven after relying on welfare for years
: due to his poor health. Or Willie Sidis, who graduated high school at the
: mere age of eight and lectured at Harvard at eleven. He grew up to neglect
: intellectualism of any sort and worked at menial tasks. He died at age forty
: -six in a rented room. Why is that? “The tests do not measure many of the
: qualities necessary for achievement in the world of work, such as

t*******r
发帖数: 22634
7
属实。。。所以中庸是王道。。。当然具体咋个中庸法,也是很纠结的事儿。。。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 而且,根据大脑剪枝理论,如果家长过度干预或不干预,下列技能可能被剪掉。。
: persistence,
: self-confidence,
: motivation,
: interpersonal skills,
: the ability to set priorities and to allocate one’s time and effort
: efficiently
: creativity
: intuition
:

t*******r
发帖数: 22634
8
另外这个 list 很强大。。。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 而且,根据大脑剪枝理论,如果家长过度干预或不干预,下列技能可能被剪掉。。
: persistence,
: self-confidence,
: motivation,
: interpersonal skills,
: the ability to set priorities and to allocate one’s time and effort
: efficiently
: creativity
: intuition
:

k**n
发帖数: 6198
9
不见得.造伟哥药的,原来是想治心血管疾病的吧.
本是一路打劫,谁知弄假成真?

【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 发明智商测试题的,是不是更加有智商?
b****s
发帖数: 872
10
这种用脑子稍微想想就知道根本不准。
智商测试,经济学,还有很多,都是人类试图简单化,希望可以量化,本来很难量化的
东西。最后的结果大部分都是失败。经济学预测准确,比中彩票还难。智商测试也是一
样。

forty

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: The Inaccuracies of the IQ
: http://bagoflightbulbs.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/the-inaccuracie
: 关键段落
: Take Geral Darrow – a Quiz Kid in the 40’s, dazzling adults with his
: brilliance. He died at age forty-seven after relying on welfare for years
: due to his poor health. Or Willie Sidis, who graduated high school at the
: mere age of eight and lectured at Harvard at eleven. He grew up to neglect
: intellectualism of any sort and worked at menial tasks. He died at age forty
: -six in a rented room. Why is that? “The tests do not measure many of the
: qualities necessary for achievement in the world of work, such as

r*g
发帖数: 3159
11
这些人的事迹读上去应该是敬畏而惋惜。而不是骂他们一句煞笔。瞧不起他们的,就跟
瞧不起100m短跑运动员一样:你跑道上跑那么快有屁用?生活上能成功么? ----其实
都是乱转移标准,另找场子而已。

forty

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: The Inaccuracies of the IQ
: http://bagoflightbulbs.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/the-inaccuracie
: 关键段落
: Take Geral Darrow – a Quiz Kid in the 40’s, dazzling adults with his
: brilliance. He died at age forty-seven after relying on welfare for years
: due to his poor health. Or Willie Sidis, who graduated high school at the
: mere age of eight and lectured at Harvard at eleven. He grew up to neglect
: intellectualism of any sort and worked at menial tasks. He died at age forty
: -six in a rented room. Why is that? “The tests do not measure many of the
: qualities necessary for achievement in the world of work, such as

t*******r
发帖数: 22634
12
智慧生物的首先的本能是生存。。。这俩例子里生存成了大问题。。。100m 短跑是人
类用来虐待奴隶取乐的,好比古罗马角斗士。当然现代社会用一种文明的方式。。。没
有可比性。。。

【在 r*g 的大作中提到】
: 这些人的事迹读上去应该是敬畏而惋惜。而不是骂他们一句煞笔。瞧不起他们的,就跟
: 瞧不起100m短跑运动员一样:你跑道上跑那么快有屁用?生活上能成功么? ----其实
: 都是乱转移标准,另找场子而已。
:
: forty

q****i
发帖数: 6923
13
这些很重要!

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 而且,根据大脑剪枝理论,如果家长过度干预或不干预,下列技能可能被剪掉。。
: persistence,
: self-confidence,
: motivation,
: interpersonal skills,
: the ability to set priorities and to allocate one’s time and effort
: efficiently
: creativity
: intuition
:

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