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x*****i
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The Rise of Asian Americans
Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
顺便转个图
m*****8
发帖数: 4059
2
有意思
看这段,有关亚裔是否感觉到受歧视的。大部分不觉得在工作和入学上受歧视。
For the most part, today’s Asian Americans do not feel the sting of racial
discrimination or the burden of culturally imposed “otherness” that was so
much a part of the experience of their predecessors who came in the 19th
and early 20th centuries.
About one-in-five Asian Americans say they have personally been treated
unfairly in the past year because they are Asian, and one-in-ten say they
have been called an offensive name. Older adults are less likely than young
and middle-aged adults to report negative personal experience with bias.
Compared with the nation’s two largest minority groups—Hispanics and
blacks—Asian Americans appear to be less inclined to view discrimination
against their group as a major problem. Just 13% of Asian Americans say it
is, while about half (48%) say it is a minor problem, and a third (35%) say
it is not a problem.8
About six-in-ten say that being Asian American makes no difference when it
comes to getting a job or gaining admission to college. Of those who do say
it makes a difference, a slightly higher share say that members of their
group are helped rather than hurt by their race. Those with less education
are more prone than those with more education to say that being an Asian
American is an advantage.

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【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: The Rise of Asian Americans
: Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
: 顺便转个图

m*****8
发帖数: 4059
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还有这段
亚裔和其他族裔关系
和黑人关系垫底
Overall, more than eight-in-ten Asian Americans say their group gets along
either very or pretty well with whites; roughly seven-in-ten say the same
about relations with Hispanics and just over six-in-ten say that about their
relations with blacks. Korean Americans stand out for their negative views
on their group’s relations with blacks. Fully half say these two groups don
’t get along well; while 39% say they get along pretty well and just 4% say
they get along very well. In several cities across the country, there has
been a history of tension between Koreans and blacks, often arising from
friction between Korean shopkeepers and black customers in predominantly
black neighborhoods

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【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: The Rise of Asian Americans
: Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
: 顺便转个图

m*****8
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很有趣
亚裔个各主要族群都比较偏爱民主党
亚裔还偏爱大政府而非小政府
个人觉得政府偏好与亚洲文化传统挺有关系
President Obama gets higher ratings from Asian Americans than from the
general public —54% approve of the way he is handling his job as president,
compared with 44% of the general public. In 2008, Asian-American voters
supported Obama over Republican John McCain by 62% to 35%, according to
Election Day exit polls.12
On balance, Asian Americans prefer a big government that provides more
services (55%) over a smaller government than provides fewer services (36%).
In contrast, the general public prefers a smaller government over a bigger
government, by 52% to 39%.
While they differ on the role of government, Asian Americans are close to
the public in their opinions about two key social issues. By a ratio of 53%
to 35%, Asian Americans say homosexuality should be accepted by society
rather than discouraged. And on the issue of abortion, 54% of Asian
Americans say it should be legal in all or most cases, while 37% say it
should be illegal.

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【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: The Rise of Asian Americans
: Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
: 顺便转个图

m*****8
发帖数: 4059
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谢谢分享。感觉这篇报道刻画了一个遵守传统价值观,勤劳刻苦,重视教育,努力积累
财富,对国家抱有信心,对个人生活有积极态度的精英少数族裔形象,还是非常积极正
面的。
不过,这个少数族裔群体的第二代在价值观上可能和第一代不同,更接近美国的主流。
比如在体现价值观的婚姻和生育领域,适婚年龄生育率二代显著低于一代,同时未婚生
育率则显著高于一代。
看了还是很感慨的。亚洲的传统价值观,特别是家庭观,教育观,财富观,让亚裔移民
脱颖而出,那我们的孩子,移民二代,要怎么样培养,才能将亚洲传统价值观和美国的
生活方式很好地融合,取东西方文化的精华?

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【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: The Rise of Asian Americans
: Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
: 顺便转个图

G*******X
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Asian Americans 除了中国人,日,韩等,包括印度人吗?还包括哪些人?

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: The Rise of Asian Americans
: Pew Research Center新鲜出炉的报告,今天各大媒体都有报道,有兴趣的慢慢看
: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-ame
: 顺便转个图

m*****8
发帖数: 4059
7
包括印度人
还有很多。其中最多的六个来源是中、日、韩、印,越南,菲律宾

【在 G*******X 的大作中提到】
: Asian Americans 除了中国人,日,韩等,包括印度人吗?还包括哪些人?
I*****e
发帖数: 7085
8
东南亚

【在 G*******X 的大作中提到】
: Asian Americans 除了中国人,日,韩等,包括印度人吗?还包括哪些人?
y****i
发帖数: 12114
9
“看这段,有关亚裔是否感觉到受歧视的。大部分不觉得在工作和入学上受歧视。”
我不觉得是这样。我冒昧地用我粗浅的中英文知识把你的引文翻译如下,供大家参考。
另外,亚裔不等于华裔。以下是这个调查的基本情况介绍。
The Pew Research Center’s 2012 Asian-American Survey is based on telephone
interviews conducted by landline and cell phone with a nationally
representative sample of 3,511 Asian adults ages 18 and older living in the
United States. The survey was conducted in all 50 states, including Alaska
and Hawaii, and the District of Columbia. The survey was designed to include
representative subsamples of the six largest Asian groups in the U.S.
population: Chinese, Filipino, Indian, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese. The
survey also included Asians from other Asian subgroups.
Pew研究中心的2012美国亚裔调查是基于电话访问全国范围的3511名代表样本,访问通
过固定电话和移动电话进行,代表样本均居住在美国,年龄18岁或以上。调查在全美50
州,包括阿拉斯加、夏威夷和哥伦比亚特区进行。调查设计为包含有代表性的六大亚裔
团体:中国人,菲律宾人,印度人,日本人,韩国人和越南人。调查还包括其它亚裔团
体的亚裔。
译者注:不同团体的人员在整个样本里面占多少比例?这个可以导致调查结果完全不同。
****
For the most part, today’s Asian Americans do not feel the sting of racial
discrimination or the burden of culturally imposed “otherness” that was so
much a part of the experience of their predecessors who came in the 19th
and early 20th centuries.
对于大多数人,当今的美国亚裔感觉不到种族歧视或者“外人”引发的文化负担所带来
的刺痛感,而这种刺痛感曾经是他们祖先感受中的一大部分,他们的祖先在19世纪或者
二十世纪初到达美国。
About one-in-five Asian Americans say they have personally been treated
unfairly in the past year because they are Asian, and one-in-ten say they
have been called an offensive name. Older adults are less likely than young
and middle-aged adults to report negative personal experience with bias.
大约五分之一的美国亚裔表示他们个人过去曾经因为是亚裔而被不公正对待,同时十分
之一的美国亚裔表示他们被人起过冒犯性的名字。相比年轻人和中年人,年纪大些的人
报告负面个人经历时,可能更容易带偏见。
Compared with the nation’s two largest minority groups—Hispanics and
blacks—Asian Americans appear to be less inclined to view discrimination
against their group as a major problem. Just 13% of Asian Americans say it
is, while about half (48%) say it is a minor problem, and a third (35%) say
it is not a problem.8
和美国的两大少数民族团体——西裔和黑人——相比,美国亚裔显得不太愿意把对于他
们团体的歧视看成大问题。只有13%的美国亚裔表示歧视是个大问题,同时大约半数(
48%)表示这是小问题,还有三成(35%)表示这个不是问题。8(原文有此数字,不
知何意)
译者注:13%+48%+35%=101%
About six-in-ten say that being Asian American makes no difference when it
comes to getting a job or gaining admission to college. Of those who do say
it makes a difference, a slightly higher share say that members of their
group are helped rather than hurt by their race. Those with less education
are more prone than those with more education to say that being an Asian
American is an advantage.
大约六成的受访者表示,在求职或者大学入学方面,美国亚裔身份造成不了什么区别。
在表示有差别的人员中,略微多些的人表示他们的种族给他们的族群成员带来帮助而不
是伤害。受教育少的相比受教育多的人更愿意表示身为美国亚裔有好处。
译者注:最后这句话是不是可以解读为:非亚裔群体希望,或者正在引导亚裔少接受教
育?另外,考虑到这个调查中的美国亚裔包括越南裔和日裔这两个特殊群体(特殊的原
因?大家懂的。),有些结论对于华裔恐怕很难适用,起码不太符合现状。

racial
so
young

【在 m*****8 的大作中提到】
: 有意思
: 看这段,有关亚裔是否感觉到受歧视的。大部分不觉得在工作和入学上受歧视。
: For the most part, today’s Asian Americans do not feel the sting of racial
: discrimination or the burden of culturally imposed “otherness” that was so
: much a part of the experience of their predecessors who came in the 19th
: and early 20th centuries.
: About one-in-five Asian Americans say they have personally been treated
: unfairly in the past year because they are Asian, and one-in-ten say they
: have been called an offensive name. Older adults are less likely than young
: and middle-aged adults to report negative personal experience with bias.

m*****8
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多谢翻译,翻得不错
各个族群细分比例原文有你可以去看
五分之一和十分之一这个数据可以说是少部分了
剩下的说大部分也不为过
你当然可以从统计的角度argue他们的样本选择可能有问题等
至于说亚裔和华裔感觉可能不同,没错。但是以前讨论的很多数据里,并不区分亚裔和
华裔,大学录取数据里面,也不区分亚裔和华裔。

telephone
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【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: “看这段,有关亚裔是否感觉到受歧视的。大部分不觉得在工作和入学上受歧视。”
: 我不觉得是这样。我冒昧地用我粗浅的中英文知识把你的引文翻译如下,供大家参考。
: 另外,亚裔不等于华裔。以下是这个调查的基本情况介绍。
: The Pew Research Center’s 2012 Asian-American Survey is based on telephone
: interviews conducted by landline and cell phone with a nationally
: representative sample of 3,511 Asian adults ages 18 and older living in the
: United States. The survey was conducted in all 50 states, including Alaska
: and Hawaii, and the District of Columbia. The survey was designed to include
: representative subsamples of the six largest Asian groups in the U.S.
: population: Chinese, Filipino, Indian, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese. The

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