f*******d 发帖数: 637 | 1 Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones
April 19, 2012
Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in "
deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits.
Photo: Nokia.
http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount |
s*******a 发帖数: 8827 | 2 4月份1x, 5月份gs3,6月份要是在来个iphone5, nokia日子不好过!
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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f***f 发帖数: 1842 | 3 I played it Vs. HTC one on microsoft convergence....it is not as good as HTC
one.....Also HTC one list higher price than Lumia.......
what is going on with this company?maybe should buy put option of it? |
g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 4 Between Nokia and Rim, which one will die first?
HTC
【在 f***f 的大作中提到】 : I played it Vs. HTC one on microsoft convergence....it is not as good as HTC : one.....Also HTC one list higher price than Lumia....... : what is going on with this company?maybe should buy put option of it?
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u****d 发帖数: 23938 | 5 我看到的是苹果,安桌也跟着一起完蛋;
好消息啊,用户有了更多更好更便宜的选择。 |
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z*n 发帖数: 2893 | 7 where? I guess in Europe - probably just matching US' price. Nokia去年10月份
才开始卖Lumia, 能有现在在US的表现已经是很不错了.
所有手机市场APPL占了近3/4的利润, 做andriod除了三爽别人的利润也大可忽略不计,
长期看要完蛋的多了去了.
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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N*****m 发帖数: 42603 | 8 显然rim
nok好歹跟着 m$混
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : Between Nokia and Rim, which one will die first? : : HTC
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z****9 发帖数: 2484 | 9 nok继续装13
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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f*******d 发帖数: 637 | 10 都跌成shit了
【在 u****d 的大作中提到】 : 至于NOK的股票,就更不会完蛋了。
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a****2 发帖数: 1458 | 11 nokia should never tie to WP only, it can easily beat samsung/htc/moto if it
decides to use android at the first place
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 12 2M Lumia shipped in first quarter. It's an OK start but certainly
not great. Google doesn't care how much money it makes on Android.
They are not losing money at least, and it gives them access to
hunreds of millions of users, Google Wallet is just one of such
attempts that could make huge money. WP doesn't have users right now.
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【在 z*n 的大作中提到】 : where? I guess in Europe - probably just matching US' price. Nokia去年10月份 : 才开始卖Lumia, 能有现在在US的表现已经是很不错了. : 所有手机市场APPL占了近3/4的利润, 做andriod除了三爽别人的利润也大可忽略不计, : 长期看要完蛋的多了去了. : : .
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c*****e 发帖数: 189 | 13 也可能是压低市价,准备大量买入呢。花街的人琢磨不透 |
d*****0 发帖数: 68029 | 14 鸡鸭会不会学惠普搞低价倾销。
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 15 没有量,光搞低价不是赔钱吗?
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : 鸡鸭会不会学惠普搞低价倾销。 : : .
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A****Z 发帖数: 694 | 16 根据这篇文章,不是美国市场。是欧亚市场。因为低端市场很多被廉价android占了。
而且也不是血本甩卖Lumia 900,而是开发便宜的新款,比如Lumia 610这种。
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230342550457735337
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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f*******5 发帖数: 10321 | 17 $250的610不知道能不能打得过华为中兴...
【在 A****Z 的大作中提到】 : 根据这篇文章,不是美国市场。是欧亚市场。因为低端市场很多被廉价android占了。 : 而且也不是血本甩卖Lumia 900,而是开发便宜的新款,比如Lumia 610这种。 : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230342550457735337 : : .
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g**w 发帖数: 969 | 18 微软收购nokia是最好的出路。这样苹果,google, ms三家都是软硬件一体。 |
z*n 发帖数: 2893 | 19 这是Lumia第一个完整的季度, 去年10月份才出来, 这还是没有进US市场. 2M已经不错
了.
GG自己说了andriod不是他的critical business. 如果三爽和HTC为Andriod交的保护费
算在GG头上, 这可能就是个大赔钱买卖了.
手机交付我看好, 不过GG又要搞ad sponsor(!@#$), 这商业模式有问题, 我不希望我买
东西的隐私到一个广告公司手里. 信用卡交易已经有很多手续费了(5%?), 支付所有的
费用已经足够了, 不应当再靠收集用户信息增收了.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 2M Lumia shipped in first quarter. It's an OK start but certainly : not great. Google doesn't care how much money it makes on Android. : They are not losing money at least, and it gives them access to : hunreds of millions of users, Google Wallet is just one of such : attempts that could make huge money. WP doesn't have users right now. : : ,
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z*n 发帖数: 2893 | 20 这边恐怕不是个好建议.
GG收购MT是为了解决专利问题, 有硬件部门在这个市场上是包袱, 除了果果这个硬件公
司. GG或者MS做硬件能做过三爽/HTC很值得怀疑, 有硬件利益反而是把这些第三方厂商
往外推.
【在 g**w 的大作中提到】 : 微软收购nokia是最好的出路。这样苹果,google, ms三家都是软硬件一体。
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A****Z 发帖数: 694 | 21 我看悬。
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : $250的610不知道能不能打得过华为中兴...
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s*******f 发帖数: 2718 | 22 我公公最近在国内买个手机,仿 iphone 的,六百人民币,自己玩的挺好。
他退休前也是做高科技的。我跟我老公说,我的 iphone 看来不用解锁带回去给老头玩
儿了。 |
f*******d 发帖数: 637 | 23 google那个纯粹是手犯贱
一个小偷 偷习惯了,不需要偷手也难受
【在 z*n 的大作中提到】 : 这是Lumia第一个完整的季度, 去年10月份才出来, 这还是没有进US市场. 2M已经不错 : 了. : GG自己说了andriod不是他的critical business. 如果三爽和HTC为Andriod交的保护费 : 算在GG头上, 这可能就是个大赔钱买卖了. : 手机交付我看好, 不过GG又要搞ad sponsor(!@#$), 这商业模式有问题, 我不希望我买 : 东西的隐私到一个广告公司手里. 信用卡交易已经有很多手续费了(5%?), 支付所有的 : 费用已经足够了, 不应当再靠收集用户信息增收了.
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s********h 发帖数: 158 | 24 when apple was close to bankcrupt, m$ bought its debt and thus shored up its
balancesheet.
nokia still has 6b euro in cash on its balancesheet. at today's burn rate,
the firm can last about 8 quarters (assuming dividend cut). if the company
takes on debt, it will last even longer. at this point, m$ can potentially
step in again and acquire its partner's debt at lower rate level than that
corresponding to nokia's debt rating.
i think it is still early to say if nokia's decision not to go with android
is a good or bad one. google acquired motorola and android also faced law
suits left and right. so nokia had its concerns.
the partnership with m$ is not only about phones. win 8 is on the horizon. i
'd bet that nokia gets special treatment with developing win 8 devices -
phones, tablets, or whatever. nokia will get none of these benefits should
it go with android.
i can see that elop's vision is not short-term and nokia's balancesheet
allows him to make that bet.
if nokia succeeds, this will be haled in a harvard case study as one of the
greatest turnaround stories next to ibm's or apple's.
if nokia fails, it will be taught in a harvard case study as one of the
greatest business failures next to eastman kodak. |
j**u 发帖数: 6059 | 25 hehe
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【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】 : Nokia to 'Deeply' Discount Lumia Phones : April 19, 2012 : Disappointing sales of Nokia's new Lumia smartphones will soon result in " : deeply" discount the devices to spur sales, George Stahl reports on digits. : Photo: Nokia. : http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/nokia-to-deeply-discount
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h*****n 发帖数: 1244 | 26 靠,傍上了MS这个大款,就算再差也还有卖身为奴这一条路,要完蛋哪那么容易啊 |
r**********g 发帖数: 22734 | 27 现在的问题是MS能不能说服RIM上船
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】 : 显然rim : nok好歹跟着 m$混
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c****e 发帖数: 1453 | 28 在中国要下1000才行。不过610连NFC都带了。
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : $250的610不知道能不能打得过华为中兴...
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 29 It's a very fast-paced industry. Android gets 2 years headstart before
WP. That's a lot of market share and a lot of money to be made. Once a
user gets used to a platform and buys a lot of apps. There's no easy going
back.
its
android
【在 s********h 的大作中提到】 : when apple was close to bankcrupt, m$ bought its debt and thus shored up its : balancesheet. : nokia still has 6b euro in cash on its balancesheet. at today's burn rate, : the firm can last about 8 quarters (assuming dividend cut). if the company : takes on debt, it will last even longer. at this point, m$ can potentially : step in again and acquire its partner's debt at lower rate level than that : corresponding to nokia's debt rating. : i think it is still early to say if nokia's decision not to go with android : is a good or bad one. google acquired motorola and android also faced law : suits left and right. so nokia had its concerns.
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s*******1 发帖数: 3820 | 30 其实nokia应该坚持maemo, 或者出android. 它家的硬件和apple有一拼, 远远好于三星
.就这么被软件搞死太可惜了.
it
【在 a****2 的大作中提到】 : nokia should never tie to WP only, it can easily beat samsung/htc/moto if it : decides to use android at the first place : : .
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r**********g 发帖数: 22734 | 31 maemo跟intel一起搞啊,还不如WP呢,继续搞maemo,死得透透的。
安猪这个事情,多半还是政治原因,诺记放不下身段啊
【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】 : 其实nokia应该坚持maemo, 或者出android. 它家的硬件和apple有一拼, 远远好于三星 : .就这么被软件搞死太可惜了. : : it
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l******a 发帖数: 3803 | 32
諾基亞有多少components來自三星,連lumia都是韓國造的。
現在丫就是一手機設計公司。蘋果也從三星買配件,但人家自己
有獨立的操作系統啊。
【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】 : 其实nokia应该坚持maemo, 或者出android. 它家的硬件和apple有一拼, 远远好于三星 : .就这么被软件搞死太可惜了. : : it
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s**u 发帖数: 1436 | 33 手机平台的黏性没那么高。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : It's a very fast-paced industry. Android gets 2 years headstart before : WP. That's a lot of market share and a lot of money to be made. Once a : user gets used to a platform and buys a lot of apps. There's no easy going : back. : : its : android
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w*****u 发帖数: 4768 | 34 虽然WP暂时还不那么hot,但是NOK不搞WP死的更惨 |
f*******5 发帖数: 10321 | 35 呵呵。intel芯的手机下礼拜在印度就要出了
【在 r**********g 的大作中提到】 : maemo跟intel一起搞啊,还不如WP呢,继续搞maemo,死得透透的。 : 安猪这个事情,多半还是政治原因,诺记放不下身段啊
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a****l 发帖数: 8211 | 36 就是,手机上的app基本都是免费的或者一两块钱的,谁会为了几个app不去换个新的机器
.一个新机器的价值绝对远超过上面的app,要是找这个逻辑的话大家根本就不会去买新
的手机了.还可以加上一条理由:一个机器用惯了,干什么都是条件反射的按几个键,何必
换新的重新适应起来呢?实际结果是,大家跳来跳去不亦乐乎.
【在 s**u 的大作中提到】 : 手机平台的黏性没那么高。
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f****g 发帖数: 23666 | 37 never spent a penny on those shit apps...LOL
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】 : 就是,手机上的app基本都是免费的或者一两块钱的,谁会为了几个app不去换个新的机器 : .一个新机器的价值绝对远超过上面的app,要是找这个逻辑的话大家根本就不会去买新 : 的手机了.还可以加上一条理由:一个机器用惯了,干什么都是条件反射的按几个键,何必 : 换新的重新适应起来呢?实际结果是,大家跳来跳去不亦乐乎.
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 38 本版大多数人都是爱折腾的,但爱折腾的总体是少数人。
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】 : 就是,手机上的app基本都是免费的或者一两块钱的,谁会为了几个app不去换个新的机器 : .一个新机器的价值绝对远超过上面的app,要是找这个逻辑的话大家根本就不会去买新 : 的手机了.还可以加上一条理由:一个机器用惯了,干什么都是条件反射的按几个键,何必 : 换新的重新适应起来呢?实际结果是,大家跳来跳去不亦乐乎.
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