e*******9
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p****n
发帖数: 109 | 2 dean potter. it's already in a movie "the sharp end".
【在 e*******9 的大作中提到】
: http://www.ddhw.com/readpost.aspx?topic_id=18&msg_id=67106&page=1&n=96927
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e*******9
发帖数: 193 | 3 Thanks. I should get this movie. |
f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 4 Gossip一下，此人是攀岩大美女Steph Davis的前夫。曾经free过Uath的Delicate Arch
，引发众怒，被Patagonia踢出Rock Embassador资助。
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: dean potter. it's already in a movie "the sharp end".
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e**o
发帖数: 5509 | 5 为啥引发众怒？
Arch
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: Gossip一下，此人是攀岩大美女Steph Davis的前夫。曾经free过Uath的Delicate Arch
: ，引发众怒，被Patagonia踢出Rock Embassador资助。
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | |
f********t
发帖数: 4574 | |
q*n
发帖数: 1203 | |
c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 9 it's not about the environment. it's far less invasive than many things we
do every day. it's rather that the delicate arch is one of the untouchables,
and I kinda agree.
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: 因为破坏环境啊, google了一下看来有很多drama:
: http://outside.away.com/outside/features/200606/dean-potter-delicate-arch-climb-1.html
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e*******9
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 11 Caldwell和Beth Rodden也离了。。。
【在 e*******9 的大作中提到】
: 想不到攀岩世界里也有这么多八卦。
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 12 纯属巧合
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: peng!
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 13 这俩早就离了
qun和BR还是一个公司的
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: Caldwell和Beth Rodden也离了。。。
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 14 qun认识Caldwell吗？一起爬过吗？
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 这俩早就离了
: qun和BR还是一个公司的
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | 15 I don't get that from the outside article, maybe there is some context i am
missing: is it untouchable because it's a special natural wonder? then El
Cap and many other rocks fit into the category too.
i think the damage is particularly significant because the rock is extremely
soft and delicate, one of potter's friend was first a supporter than a
strong critic after it is believed that potter used top rope to rehearsal
the climb thus left rope mark near top of the rock.
untouchables,
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: it's not about the environment. it's far less invasive than many things we
: do every day. it's rather that the delicate arch is one of the untouchables,
: and I kinda agree.
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | 16 上贴信息不准, 这个话题就此打住吧.
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: qun认识Caldwell吗？一起爬过吗？
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e**o
发帖数: 5509 | 17 你的那句话我没懂。
确信Potter 用绳子预先排练后，他的朋友从批评变成支持了？
am
extremely
climb
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: I don't get that from the outside article, maybe there is some context i am
: missing: is it untouchable because it's a special natural wonder? then El
: Cap and many other rocks fit into the category too.
: i think the damage is particularly significant because the rock is extremely
: soft and delicate, one of potter's friend was first a supporter than a
: strong critic after it is believed that potter used top rope to rehearsal
: the climb thus left rope mark near top of the rock.
:
: untouchables,
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 18 ft, 你怎么读的
El
【在 e**o 的大作中提到】
: 你的那句话我没懂。
: 确信Potter 用绳子预先排练后，他的朋友从批评变成支持了？
:
: am
: extremely
: climb
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e**o
发帖数: 5509 | 19 那个after把我搞糊涂了。
如果改成before it is believed potter... 我就明白了。
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: ft, 你怎么读的
:
: El
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 20 It is one thing you have to hammer a few pitons into a big wall, it is
another to climb a delicate formation to show off.
Think about it, sponsored by Patagonia, beside free gears and sponsored
trips, you get 50-70K per year just for climbing. There are so many great
climbs in the world, why would you climb that damn arch? He showed such poor
judgement, I would kick him out of my program just for that.
am
extremely
climb
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: I don't get that from the outside article, maybe there is some context i am
: missing: is it untouchable because it's a special natural wonder? then El
: Cap and many other rocks fit into the category too.
: i think the damage is particularly significant because the rock is extremely
: soft and delicate, one of potter's friend was first a supporter than a
: strong critic after it is believed that potter used top rope to rehearsal
: the climb thus left rope mark near top of the rock.
:
: untouchables,
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | 21 呵呵, 都怪饼干桶爱写英文
【在 e**o 的大作中提到】
: 那个after把我搞糊涂了。
: 如果改成before it is believed potter... 我就明白了。
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | 22 We are talking about "untouchable" in a spiritual sense, damage to the
rock is a seperate issue. Besides, potter claims he climbed the arch
in the "purest" form, even going to the extend of avoiding certain kind
of handholds. As for "showing off", i understand climbers have the urge
to climb beautiful rocks, it seems unfair to suggest some climbers or
type of climbs to be ostentatious or less noble than others.
poor
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: It is one thing you have to hammer a few pitons into a big wall, it is
: another to climb a delicate formation to show off.
: Think about it, sponsored by Patagonia, beside free gears and sponsored
: trips, you get 50-70K per year just for climbing. There are so many great
: climbs in the world, why would you climb that damn arch? He showed such poor
: judgement, I would kick him out of my program just for that.
:
: am
: extremely
: climb
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 23 Spiritual value varies from person to person, but physical damage is real
and permanent. Delicate arch simply won't sustain as much damage as El Cap.
It is not a matter whether it is noble, it is a matter if it is sustainable.
Climbers have to control their urges and make good judgements. They can't
climb whatever they want to, they are not monkeys after all.
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: We are talking about "untouchable" in a spiritual sense, damage to the
: rock is a seperate issue. Besides, potter claims he climbed the arch
: in the "purest" form, even going to the extend of avoiding certain kind
: of handholds. As for "showing off", i understand climbers have the urge
: to climb beautiful rocks, it seems unfair to suggest some climbers or
: type of climbs to be ostentatious or less noble than others.
:
: poor
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e**o
发帖数: 5509 | 24 还好。我一直以为是我理解的问题。
我的英语很烂的。
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵, 都怪饼干桶爱写英文
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 25 I don't know much about the background and I don't really care that much.
Climbing is about having fun not about criticizing anyone or any style of
climbing.
That being said, El Cap has been beat up badly historically but modern
climbers all try to avoid using pins. Clean aid has been a trend for some
years now. What's more, El Cap is granite and can take a lot of abuse.
I don't have problem with red pointing. However, if he lied about it, I
would lose a lot of respect for him.
am
extremely
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: I don't get that from the outside article, maybe there is some context i am
: missing: is it untouchable because it's a special natural wonder? then El
: Cap and many other rocks fit into the category too.
: i think the damage is particularly significant because the rock is extremely
: soft and delicate, one of potter's friend was first a supporter than a
: strong critic after it is believed that potter used top rope to rehearsal
: the climb thus left rope mark near top of the rock.
:
: untouchables,
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