a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 1 Matt Damon Harvard University 《谍影重重》
Conan O'Brien Harvard 《conan o'brien show》
David Duchovny Princeton University 《X-Files》
Edward Norton Yale, 1991. 《搏击俱乐部》
Tommy Lee Jones Harvard, 1969. 《黑衣人》。
Meryl Streep Yale, 1975.
Elizabeth Banks University of Pennsylvania 《饥饿游戏》
James Franco Columbia, 2010, Yale-Current. 《蜘蛛侠》
Natalie Portman Harvard University 《黑天鹅》
Jake Gyllenhaal - Columbia University 《蜘蛛侠》
Emma Watson - Brown University 《哈利珀特》
Liev Schreiber - Yale University 《X-Men》
Jodie Foster - Yale University 《沉默的羔羊》
Paul Giamatti - Yale University 《铁拳男人》
Julie Bowen -- Brown University 《现代家庭》
Julia Stiles -- Columbia University 《谍影重重》
Matthew Fox --Columbia University 《迷失》
Christopher Reeve - Cornell University 《超人》
Amanda Peet - Columbia University 《2012》
Donald Trump - University of Pennsylvania
Anderson Cooper - Yale University 《anderson cooper 360》
Ed Harris - Columbia University 《勇闯夺命岛》
Elisabeth Shue --Harvard University 《回到未來》
Joseph Gordon-Levitt - Columbia University 《盗梦空间》
John Turturro - Yale University 《变形金刚》
Wentworth Miller - Princeton University 《越狱》
Yo-Yo Ma - Harvard University 不用说了。。
。。。。等等。。。只是例子。
。什么时候清华北大也能出出名的电影电视演员。。 | i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 2 If you are implying that it is because of their schools (i.e. Ivy league),
that is probably not the reason.
Many of the top Chinese stars are actually professionally train vs. the ones
in America are less so.
Also, you are forgetting to name the directors and writers, whom plays an
equal if not more important role. | a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 3 It's about your passion and real interest rather than that you are forced
into the fields against your own will.
If you are interested in something, you would probably do better than those
who are in that professional field against their wills.
Directors and writers are important, but there are other factors.
Also, acting is more from your own experience rather than to be taught. You
can't teach someone how to express their internal feeling on their faces..
they have to learn on their own. Not like science, arts are more creative
and less standardized than science subjects, that mostly are based on math
and formulas.
ones
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: If you are implying that it is because of their schools (i.e. Ivy league),
: that is probably not the reason.
: Many of the top Chinese stars are actually professionally train vs. the ones
: in America are less so.
: Also, you are forgetting to name the directors and writers, whom plays an
: equal if not more important role.
| c********e
发帖数: 6158 | | a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 5 ? ?
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 英达, 英壮,
| i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 6 The examples you just gave on top probably don't show that.
If half of these people continue to pursuit their career with the passion
and real interest on the subjects they were studying in these universities,
they probably would never end up in show biz.
those
You
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's about your passion and real interest rather than that you are forced
: into the fields against your own will.
: If you are interested in something, you would probably do better than those
: who are in that professional field against their wills.
: Directors and writers are important, but there are other factors.
: Also, acting is more from your own experience rather than to be taught. You
: can't teach someone how to express their internal feeling on their faces..
: they have to learn on their own. Not like science, arts are more creative
: and less standardized than science subjects, that mostly are based on math
: and formulas.
| g*******a
发帖数: 31586 | 7
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: ? ?
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 8 The subject you study, or the major you majored, these doesn't reflect your
own interest.
It's not a coincidence that there are so many people from these schools
going into the film/TV industry rather than engineering or financial fields.
,
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: The examples you just gave on top probably don't show that.
: If half of these people continue to pursuit their career with the passion
: and real interest on the subjects they were studying in these universities,
: they probably would never end up in show biz.
:
: those
: You
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 9 ? ? ?
【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 10 真含蓄，出动古狗终于找到：
英达：英家是脚踏实地的假洋鬼子
说假洋鬼子就假洋鬼子好了。。什么英达, 英壮。。
“
从19世纪到21世纪，优秀的人其实都是假洋鬼子，如果彻彻底底就是国粹，一门心思关
起门来当国学大师那是没有希望的。即便是毛泽东，他都焦急地想学外语，有过好几个
外语老师，最后他没有学成，并不代表他心中就非常非常得意于国粹。
”
http://ent.ifeng.com/idolnews/mainland/detail_2012_02/02/122557
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 英达, 英壮,
| | | i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 11 ? Sorry, now I am confused.
What was the purpose of listing the universities they attended? The schools
give them a second chance to have a good life even if they don't do well in
their subject areas?
You do realize that some of the folks you have listed are actually child
stars that were famous long before attending these universities, right?
your
fields.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: The subject you study, or the major you majored, these doesn't reflect your
: own interest.
: It's not a coincidence that there are so many people from these schools
: going into the film/TV industry rather than engineering or financial fields.
:
: ,
| i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 12 Something easier - banana.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 真含蓄，出动古狗终于找到：
: 英达：英家是脚踏实地的假洋鬼子
: 说假洋鬼子就假洋鬼子好了。。什么英达, 英壮。。
: “
: 从19世纪到21世纪，优秀的人其实都是假洋鬼子，如果彻彻底底就是国粹，一门心思关
: 起门来当国学大师那是没有希望的。即便是毛泽东，他都焦急地想学外语，有过好几个
: 外语老师，最后他没有学成，并不代表他心中就非常非常得意于国粹。
: ”
: http://ent.ifeng.com/idolnews/mainland/detail_2012_02/02/122557
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 13 The purpose is saying great actors in the US come from everywhere, top
universities..drop outs, or street hangers.
But normally in China, most actors only come from "Professional trained"
schools. They are trained to act, just like other subjects/fields that are
trained to learn, trained to follow other people's steps and never look
outside of the road they follow.
It's about variety perspectives v.s. 1 or 2 choices. Taking a close look,
it's just as most of the people's opinions here, right or wrong, and that's
it.
Some of the TV shows are very meaningful and very deep, it's just like
taking a college level class, and you will never find an answer for it. That
's another source of learning things by watching TV and movies besides
entertainment only.
schools
in
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: ? Sorry, now I am confused.
: What was the purpose of listing the universities they attended? The schools
: give them a second chance to have a good life even if they don't do well in
: their subject areas?
: You do realize that some of the folks you have listed are actually child
: stars that were famous long before attending these universities, right?
:
: your
: fields.
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 14 It's a paradox. While people saying these to other group of people who were
born in the US and don't know much about Chinese heritages, it's kind of 藐
视 them。 BUT..BUT.. they spend all their lives and efforts to search for
great schools, great neighborhood to raise their kids and try their 吃奶力气
to push their kids to become one of the greatest banana....
if not ever.
Isn't it true?
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Something easier - banana.
| i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 15 In that case, you should have list some great examples of the others instead
of just these that came from Ivy league.
BTW, I think LS is right that you are getting to be a little too 假洋鬼子.
Would recommend 非诚勿扰. Not for the dating or the girls / guys on the
show, but the different back ground and stories these people bring.
s
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: The purpose is saying great actors in the US come from everywhere, top
: universities..drop outs, or street hangers.
: But normally in China, most actors only come from "Professional trained"
: schools. They are trained to act, just like other subjects/fields that are
: trained to learn, trained to follow other people's steps and never look
: outside of the road they follow.
: It's about variety perspectives v.s. 1 or 2 choices. Taking a close look,
: it's just as most of the people's opinions here, right or wrong, and that's
: it.
: Some of the TV shows are very meaningful and very deep, it's just like
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 16 近墨者黑，近朱者赤，近猪者蠢，近老外文化者假洋鬼子。。
I don't watch that kind of shows。 I think I watched few minutes but really
反感 that kind of criticism. Well, they laugh about people's shortcoming,
like fat, thin, bald head, short, ugly...no money.. etc..basically the
things you don't see 顺眼。。you know.
instead
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: In that case, you should have list some great examples of the others instead
: of just these that came from Ivy league.
: BTW, I think LS is right that you are getting to be a little too 假洋鬼子.
: Would recommend 非诚勿扰. Not for the dating or the girls / guys on the
: show, but the different back ground and stories these people bring.
:
: s
| m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 17 当年大学疯狂合并的时候，清华合并了中央工艺美院，要是当时一口气把北影或者中戏
也吃下来，清华锁男们会不会更加自豪了 | b**********5
发帖数: 7881 | 18 dude!!! wake the fuck up! these people didn't go to those schools and then
start acting. A lot of these people, they act, they have some fame, and
they go to a fake "ivy-league" school like Columbia to study some film
classes, or get some shitty degrees.
Take emma watson for example, she was already famous from harry potter
before she applied to that school in new hampshire or vermont.
and that james franco dude, he was already famous before he went to Columbia
. And he went to Columbia for couple film classes, and even trashed his
professor in the papers for giving him bad grades. His professor got fired
as result.
and that julia stiles, she was also famous before she went to Columbia. I
think it was also film related classes.
And it'd not surprising that most of people have Columbia attached to their
names. Columbia is a whore for fame and money. It's the worst in the ivy
leagues
s
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: The purpose is saying great actors in the US come from everywhere, top
: universities..drop outs, or street hangers.
: But normally in China, most actors only come from "Professional trained"
: schools. They are trained to act, just like other subjects/fields that are
: trained to learn, trained to follow other people's steps and never look
: outside of the road they follow.
: It's about variety perspectives v.s. 1 or 2 choices. Taking a close look,
: it's just as most of the people's opinions here, right or wrong, and that's
: it.
: Some of the TV shows are very meaningful and very deep, it's just like
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 19 These examples are all selected from only one pool, Columbia.
I can see that you really don't like Columbia.. LOL..
That's how it works, you go to ivy to get famous, and if you are already
famous, you get into ivy to get more famous. It ends that they are all from
Ivy.
Columbia
fired
【在 b**********5 的大作中提到】
: dude!!! wake the fuck up! these people didn't go to those schools and then
: start acting. A lot of these people, they act, they have some fame, and
: they go to a fake "ivy-league" school like Columbia to study some film
: classes, or get some shitty degrees.
: Take emma watson for example, she was already famous from harry potter
: before she applied to that school in new hampshire or vermont.
: and that james franco dude, he was already famous before he went to Columbia
: . And he went to Columbia for couple film classes, and even trashed his
: professor in the papers for giving him bad grades. His professor got fired
: as result.
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 20 It's against your will that Columbia's ranking has been climbed up to #4 in
the US news ranking..
It is used to be around #8-10 spots..
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/ran
Columbia
fired
【在 b**********5 的大作中提到】
: dude!!! wake the fuck up! these people didn't go to those schools and then
: start acting. A lot of these people, they act, they have some fame, and
: they go to a fake "ivy-league" school like Columbia to study some film
: classes, or get some shitty degrees.
: Take emma watson for example, she was already famous from harry potter
: before she applied to that school in new hampshire or vermont.
: and that james franco dude, he was already famous before he went to Columbia
: . And he went to Columbia for couple film classes, and even trashed his
: professor in the papers for giving him bad grades. His professor got fired
: as result.
| | | b**********5
发帖数: 7881 | 21 I dont think that actors go to ivy to get more famous. A lot of them go to
colleges just because they want to make themselves out to be "smart" actors.
..
anyways, my point is that whatever the point that u were trying to make, are
INVALID
from
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: These examples are all selected from only one pool, Columbia.
: I can see that you really don't like Columbia.. LOL..
: That's how it works, you go to ivy to get famous, and if you are already
: famous, you get into ivy to get more famous. It ends that they are all from
: Ivy.
:
: Columbia
: fired
| b**********5
发帖数: 7881 | 22 你看看哪里的中国小刘， 最多， 就知道哪个最烂了
in
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's against your will that Columbia's ranking has been climbed up to #4 in
: the US news ranking..
: It is used to be around #8-10 spots..
: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/ran
:
: Columbia
: fired
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 23 So, you don't think 美剧比较好看?
to
actors.
are
【在 b**********5 的大作中提到】
: I dont think that actors go to ivy to get more famous. A lot of them go to
: colleges just because they want to make themselves out to be "smart" actors.
: ..
: anyways, my point is that whatever the point that u were trying to make, are
: INVALID
:
: from
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 24 不只你一个人这样看法，中国人买东西，一看见是中国制造的就不买。
也就是说中国制造的很烂。
【在 b**********5 的大作中提到】
: 你看看哪里的中国小刘， 最多， 就知道哪个最烂了
:
: in
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 25 咱中国人一般说"美剧", 指的可不是《黑衣人》,《超人》,《哈利波特》这种"电影".
指的是《X-Files》, 《越狱》这类的电视剧.
电影与电视剧的感觉是截然不同的.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Matt Damon Harvard University 《谍影重重》
: Conan O'Brien Harvard 《conan o'brien show》
: David Duchovny Princeton University 《X-Files》
: Edward Norton Yale, 1991. 《搏击俱乐部》
: Tommy Lee Jones Harvard, 1969. 《黑衣人》。
: Meryl Streep Yale, 1975.
: Elizabeth Banks University of Pennsylvania 《饥饿游戏》
: James Franco Columbia, 2010, Yale-Current. 《蜘蛛侠》
: Natalie Portman Harvard University 《黑天鹅》
: Jake Gyllenhaal - Columbia University 《蜘蛛侠》
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 26 x-files 非常不错。。
说一下感觉有什么不同？
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 咱中国人一般说"美剧", 指的可不是《黑衣人》,《超人》,《哈利波特》这种"电影".
: 指的是《X-Files》, 《越狱》这类的电视剧.
: 电影与电视剧的感觉是截然不同的.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 27 看电影与电视剧有什么不同, 你感觉不出来么?
好电影, 要么是大制作, 靠钱砸特效.
要么就玩深沉, 讲内涵, 反正就是要在那俩小时之内
把想表达的东西都表达出来.
好电视剧, 要有好的故事, 好的主线, 但不追求制作的
特别"精美"或者"特效", 有的时候还要特意把故事拉长吸引人
接着看下去.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: x-files 非常不错。。
: 说一下感觉有什么不同？
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 28 看电影要钱，看电视不要钱，除非去买碟。。
电影屏幕大，还 3D, 拍拖 hang out 好地方。。
电视剧么，夜深人静无聊就看。
看，这你的感觉有多么不同？？
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 看电影与电视剧有什么不同, 你感觉不出来么?
: 好电影, 要么是大制作, 靠钱砸特效.
: 要么就玩深沉, 讲内涵, 反正就是要在那俩小时之内
: 把想表达的东西都表达出来.
: 好电视剧, 要有好的故事, 好的主线, 但不追求制作的
: 特别"精美"或者"特效", 有的时候还要特意把故事拉长吸引人
: 接着看下去.
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 29 还有，电影和电视是视角上的艺术，好票房的电影不一点有内涵。。
好像还是 Avatar 赚最大，一点内涵也没有的电影。。不过视角上3D 画面那时候是革
命。。
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 看电影与电视剧有什么不同, 你感觉不出来么?
: 好电影, 要么是大制作, 靠钱砸特效.
: 要么就玩深沉, 讲内涵, 反正就是要在那俩小时之内
: 把想表达的东西都表达出来.
: 好电视剧, 要有好的故事, 好的主线, 但不追求制作的
: 特别"精美"或者"特效", 有的时候还要特意把故事拉长吸引人
: 接着看下去.
| m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 30 对下载看片的锁男都一样
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 还有，电影和电视是视角上的艺术，好票房的电影不一点有内涵。。
: 好像还是 Avatar 赚最大，一点内涵也没有的电影。。不过视角上3D 画面那时候是革
: 命。。
| | | m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 31 环境的差别咱不讨论.
完全可以下下来自己看.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 看电影要钱，看电视不要钱，除非去买碟。。
: 电影屏幕大，还 3D, 拍拖 hang out 好地方。。
: 电视剧么，夜深人静无聊就看。
: 看，这你的感觉有多么不同？？
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 32
我说了, "要么是大制作, 靠钱砸特效."
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 还有，电影和电视是视角上的艺术，好票房的电影不一点有内涵。。
: 好像还是 Avatar 赚最大，一点内涵也没有的电影。。不过视角上3D 画面那时候是革
: 命。。
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 33 环境很重要，不能忽略不算。。一个不小心到了一家有老鼠或者有床虫的电影院。。
什么有内涵的电影在老鼠和床虫面前消失。
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 环境的差别咱不讨论.
: 完全可以下下来自己看.
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