p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 1 再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多million在好学区买个房子，
还不如去读个private school |
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 2 so agree with you. or rent. |
l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 3 非ivy上under，然后在上个9 months ivy grad program。现在小妞都这样
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
: 大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多million在好学区买个房子，
: 还不如去读个private school
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d*****9
发帖数: 3459 | 4 嗯，上premed，然后med/dental schools
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 非ivy上under，然后在上个9 months ivy grad program。现在小妞都这样
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 5
veli clever. i know a xiao niu went to yale for certificate program.
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 非ivy上under，然后在上个9 months ivy grad program。现在小妞都这样
|
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 6 college还是很重要的，grad去ivy league还是差着一些
我比较过几个top public school和private school去ivy league的情况，private
school秒杀public school
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 非ivy上under，然后在上个9 months ivy grad program。现在小妞都这样
|
d*****9
发帖数: 3459 | 7 if you want kids to become a phd or md or lawyer, then where they go to
undergrad is
not that important. being able to get into professional schools is more
important
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: college还是很重要的，grad去ivy league还是差着一些
: 我比较过几个top public school和private school去ivy league的情况，private
: school秒杀public school
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 8 did you guys ever asked your kids what they want to become? which school
they want to go? do they rather play football or they want to learn about
computer? |
m*********o
发帖数: 7545 | 9 去IVY LEAGUE 的优势也不过只体现在金融，经济，或计算机。
我看要是学个医生，PUBLIC SCHOOL 和 IVY LEAGUE 出来都走一条路。 |
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 10 yup same route - huge student loan
【在 m*********o 的大作中提到】
: 去IVY LEAGUE 的优势也不过只体现在金融，经济，或计算机。
: 我看要是学个医生，PUBLIC SCHOOL 和 IVY LEAGUE 出来都走一条路。
|
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w********c
发帖数: 2632 | 11 then what. they all become golden unicorns afterwards?
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: college还是很重要的，grad去ivy league还是差着一些
: 我比较过几个top public school和private school去ivy league的情况，private
: school秒杀public school
|
l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 12 现在ivy真没啥吸引力，垃圾program一堆一堆的。住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
活环境，其次是学习，上不上ivy无所谓。
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: college还是很重要的，grad去ivy league还是差着一些
: 我比较过几个top public school和private school去ivy league的情况，private
: school秒杀public school
|
l*****o
发帖数: 26631 | |
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 14 第二代，自然要有第二代的活法，当然要比第一代更好，更能在美国社会中立足，
circle很重要
【在 d*****9 的大作中提到】
: if you want kids to become a phd or md or lawyer, then where they go to
: undergrad is
: not that important. being able to get into professional schools is more
: important
|
d*****9
发帖数: 3459 | 15 don't worry about it. most ppl don't know what they want.
but i find successful ppl don't really care about schools. i've got a
chinese prof whose daughter got into a ivy league school and dropped out.
her parent went livid. but the girl just lived by herself and one day maybe
she got hit by sth -- who knows what happened -- she decided to go back to
college and finished her undergrad education and went on to a law school and
became a lawyer.
so it really doesn't matter whether the parents plan it all out for kids or
not. kids here have a lot of freedom and if they have strong will, they can
pretty much do anything they want.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: did you guys ever asked your kids what they want to become? which school
: they want to go? do they rather play football or they want to learn about
: computer?
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 16 good man
住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 现在ivy真没啥吸引力，垃圾program一堆一堆的。住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
: 活环境，其次是学习，上不上ivy无所谓。
|
l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 17 呵呵
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: good man
:
: 住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 18 true kids here actually dont give a damn about what you want them to become.
as long as the kids dont get reminded everyday that daddy and mommy bought
this expensive house just so you can go to a good high school and ivy league
. it will be pretty depressing.
maybe
to
and
or
can
【在 d*****9 的大作中提到】
: don't worry about it. most ppl don't know what they want.
: but i find successful ppl don't really care about schools. i've got a
: chinese prof whose daughter got into a ivy league school and dropped out.
: her parent went livid. but the girl just lived by herself and one day maybe
: she got hit by sth -- who knows what happened -- she decided to go back to
: college and finished her undergrad education and went on to a law school and
: became a lawyer.
: so it really doesn't matter whether the parents plan it all out for kids or
: not. kids here have a lot of freedom and if they have strong will, they can
: pretty much do anything they want.
|
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 19 看毕业去向，这个最靠谱
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: 求科普： 如何比较私立学校的好坏？
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H********k
发帖数: 3950 | 20 最后一句 你说谁呢？
It's hard to believe.
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 现在ivy真没啥吸引力，垃圾program一堆一堆的。住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
: 活环境，其次是学习，上不上ivy无所谓。
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p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 21 话不能这么说，父母提供了通往ivy league的approach给孩子，父母做了自己的努力，
孩子喜欢干吗那是他的权利，他不想去ivy league，totally fine，总比孩子想去ivy
league但父母没有为他提供条件要好得多。父母能做到就是给孩子创造多种路由他来选
择，决定权还是在孩子手里，并非父母决定他一定要去ivy league
become.
bought
league
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: true kids here actually dont give a damn about what you want them to become.
: as long as the kids dont get reminded everyday that daddy and mommy bought
: this expensive house just so you can go to a good high school and ivy league
: . it will be pretty depressing.
:
: maybe
: to
: and
: or
: can
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d*****9
发帖数: 3459 | 22 in the us, it is almost impossible that "孩子想去ivy league但父母没有为他提
供条件要好得多". zuckerberg's wife is a good example.
ivy
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 话不能这么说，父母提供了通往ivy league的approach给孩子，父母做了自己的努力，
: 孩子喜欢干吗那是他的权利，他不想去ivy league，totally fine，总比孩子想去ivy
: league但父母没有为他提供条件要好得多。父母能做到就是给孩子创造多种路由他来选
: 择，决定权还是在孩子手里，并非父母决定他一定要去ivy league
:
: become.
: bought
: league
|
m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 23 i thought ivy leagues provide scholarships to good kids.
ivy
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 话不能这么说，父母提供了通往ivy league的approach给孩子，父母做了自己的努力，
: 孩子喜欢干吗那是他的权利，他不想去ivy league，totally fine，总比孩子想去ivy
: league但父母没有为他提供条件要好得多。父母能做到就是给孩子创造多种路由他来选
: 择，决定权还是在孩子手里，并非父母决定他一定要去ivy league
:
: become.
: bought
: league
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H********k
发帖数: 3950 | 24 merit scholarship is for top excellence in academics only.
and other sources of financing is available to all GOOD, Admitted kids.
That's the so called Need-blind admission.
supposedly admission decision is made before any consideration of money.
It's still being touted every once in a while, but in reality has become a
thing of the past.
Not anymore.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: i thought ivy leagues provide scholarships to good kids.
:
: ivy
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p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 25 当然会有从差高中到好大学读书的励志例子，但对于普通人的参考意义几乎可以忽略不计
【在 d*****9 的大作中提到】
: in the us, it is almost impossible that "孩子想去ivy league但父母没有为他提
: 供条件要好得多". zuckerberg's wife is a good example.
:
: ivy
|
H********k
发帖数: 3950 | 26 she got lucky. she ran into me while in Quincy.
you cannot pick up random cases like that to prove a point.
random case CAN be used to refute.
【在 d*****9 的大作中提到】
: in the us, it is almost impossible that "孩子想去ivy league但父母没有为他提
: 供条件要好得多". zuckerberg's wife is a good example.
:
: ivy
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p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 27 主要不是学费的问题，而是录取通知书的问题，显然录取通知书要比学费难的多。如果
录取通知书能拿到，学费就远远不算个问题
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: i thought ivy leagues provide scholarships to good kids.
:
: ivy
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 28 so what do you mean by "approach"
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 主要不是学费的问题，而是录取通知书的问题，显然录取通知书要比学费难的多。如果
: 录取通知书能拿到，学费就远远不算个问题
|
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 29 敲开top university的大门
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: so what do you mean by "approach"
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H********k
发帖数: 3950 | 30 you are right.
but. well i hate to break this to you. As they do away with "need-blind"
admission, i mean as they peek into your balance sheet while making
admission decisions. a lot of poorer family kids are facing new obstacles.
As they are labeled as "Needy", they have to compete among the "Needy" pool
first, which in the past was not necessary.
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 主要不是学费的问题，而是录取通知书的问题，显然录取通知书要比学费难的多。如果
: 录取通知书能拿到，学费就远远不算个问题
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 31
ou............
knock knock
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 敲开top university的大门
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p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 32 唉，中产当然是最惨的，上下都够不着
pool
【在 H********k 的大作中提到】
: you are right.
: but. well i hate to break this to you. As they do away with "need-blind"
: admission, i mean as they peek into your balance sheet while making
: admission decisions. a lot of poorer family kids are facing new obstacles.
: As they are labeled as "Needy", they have to compete among the "Needy" pool
: first, which in the past was not necessary.
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 33 it might change again when my kids are at that age. i will just send my kids
to nyu so we can meet up at st marks place for sushi.
pool
【在 H********k 的大作中提到】
: you are right.
: but. well i hate to break this to you. As they do away with "need-blind"
: admission, i mean as they peek into your balance sheet while making
: admission decisions. a lot of poorer family kids are facing new obstacles.
: As they are labeled as "Needy", they have to compete among the "Needy" pool
: first, which in the past was not necessary.
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w******t
发帖数: 16937 | 34 其实就是一个拼家长还是拼孩子的问题。
与其买密林号私或者上私校，家长自己撑起一片天也能让子女受益。
再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多milli........
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【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
: 大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多million在好学区买个房子，
: 还不如去读个private school
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f**********7
发帖数: 265 | 35 我觉得LAC挺好的 认识的好些人都是读的LAC 当然了。。如果能去哈佛也好 哎 只能YY
下 |
m*********o
发帖数: 7545 | 36 你们这些讨论学校 讨论孩子的 都有孩子了嘛？有老伴了嘛？ |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 37 I find that you are more closed to the American thoughts. A lot of Chinese
parents have conflicts with their kids because the parents want to lay out a
nice smooth path for their kids without thinking about what the kids really
want. It's what they want their kids to be. As a teenager raised in the
American school systems, he/she objects the parents' will and tries to fight
for his/her own, he/she rebels. This is one of the biggest generation gaps
between immigrant parents and their American raised kids. Not long ago, a
chinese father wanted to jump off the verrazano bridge was hugely caused by
this generation conflict as well.
【在 m*******y 的大作中提到】
: did you guys ever asked your kids what they want to become? which school
: they want to go? do they rather play football or they want to learn about
: computer?
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 38 If you do some research, at least half of students in the ivy schools do
need financial aids or other sources of finance. When I was in school, one
of my friends borrowed entire tuition for four years, it's a huge burden. He
always said it's only a number on the paper. Well, if I were him, I would
rather go to another college.
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 主要不是学费的问题，而是录取通知书的问题，显然录取通知书要比学费难的多。如果
: 录取通知书能拿到，学费就远远不算个问题
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b******r
发帖数: 1137 | 39 top liberal arts college are comparable with ivy league level schools. if
you consider HYP as tier 0 (maybe Stanford as well), and the other elite
universities as tier 1, the top few colleges like Amherst should be at least
tier 1.
YY
【在 f**********7 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得LAC挺好的 认识的好些人都是读的LAC 当然了。。如果能去哈佛也好 哎 只能YY
: 下
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 40 Stanford is harder to get into than a lot of ivy schools.
least
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: top liberal arts college are comparable with ivy league level schools. if
: you consider HYP as tier 0 (maybe Stanford as well), and the other elite
: universities as tier 1, the top few colleges like Amherst should be at least
: tier 1.
:
: YY
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 41 There are a lot of sources for college cost. The game is changed, once you
are a poor kid and your parents don't make too much. You are better off than
a lot of mid-class kids. Once you are accepted you don't need to worry
about the cost, the college endowment takes care of that. If you are a US
legal resident, the federal and state government set aside of certain money
for your undergrad education.
pool
【在 H********k 的大作中提到】
: you are right.
: but. well i hate to break this to you. As they do away with "need-blind"
: admission, i mean as they peek into your balance sheet while making
: admission decisions. a lot of poorer family kids are facing new obstacles.
: As they are labeled as "Needy", they have to compete among the "Needy" pool
: first, which in the past was not necessary.
|
j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 42 you have no idea how elite private school works in the US.
it is much harder to get into one of these elite private schools than to an
ivy.
sure, you can get into a privet school with just money, but attending those
2nd or 3rd tier private schools, or catholic schools would not help your
kids at all. most time, these private schools are way worse than public
schools in good districts.
parents send their kids to these 3rd tier private school not for superior
academics but for religious principles...
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
: 大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多million在好学区买个房子，
: 还不如去读个private school
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s*********e
发帖数: 4475 | 43 这话在理。 好学区是一个好的自然和人文环境，
将来要卖也容易。
州立本科毕业后去读个藤校的研究生，不要太容易呀。
很多科系就和卖学位差不多。
【在 l********l 的大作中提到】
: 现在ivy真没啥吸引力，垃圾program一堆一堆的。住好学区首先是要给孩子一个好的生
: 活环境，其次是学习，上不上ivy无所谓。
|
s*********e
发帖数: 4475 | 44 老实说，如果她父母是中规中矩的上中产，和这bbs上的父母一样，
哈弗不一定收她。
【在 d*****9 的大作中提到】
: in the us, it is almost impossible that "孩子想去ivy league但父母没有为他提
: 供条件要好得多". zuckerberg's wife is a good example.
:
: ivy
|
W********i
发帖数: 1115 | 45 how much, private school.
I have no idea at all.
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 再好的public school，想去ivy league，也不是那么容易的，private school把握更
: 大一些。如果非常care孩子以后教育的话，与其花一个多million在好学区买个房子，
: 还不如去读个private school
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b******r
发帖数: 1137 | 46 Exactly. The elite private schools are great, no doubt. However, I have
concerns other than tuition affordability: can my kids take the peer
pressure of family background? Do I want to send them to boarding schools?
Probably not for me and my kids. If I exclude those elite ones, I don't see
huge difference between good private schools and Scarsdale/Bronxville, and
here comes the invisible hand of Adam Smith: if I have only one child,
Hackley is one of my options because it gives me a bigger selection of house
; two or more, I'll just go with one of the top Westchester public schools.
an
those
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: you have no idea how elite private school works in the US.
: it is much harder to get into one of these elite private schools than to an
: ivy.
: sure, you can get into a privet school with just money, but attending those
: 2nd or 3rd tier private schools, or catholic schools would not help your
: kids at all. most time, these private schools are way worse than public
: schools in good districts.
: parents send their kids to these 3rd tier private school not for superior
: academics but for religious principles...
|
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 47 elite private school当然很难了，但如果前提是想让小孩以后去ivy league level的
college的话，自然提前准备是把握更大了。还有，我只是想说技术上的操作手段，并
不是说这样的做法是好的是可取的
an
those
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: you have no idea how elite private school works in the US.
: it is much harder to get into one of these elite private schools than to an
: ivy.
: sure, you can get into a privet school with just money, but attending those
: 2nd or 3rd tier private schools, or catholic schools would not help your
: kids at all. most time, these private schools are way worse than public
: schools in good districts.
: parents send their kids to these 3rd tier private school not for superior
: academics but for religious principles...
|
l*****o
发帖数: 26631 | 48 谁说说所谓的elite private school都是哪些？ 学费要多少？ 怎么招生的？ |
t******n
发帖数: 93 | |
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 50 这个标准很好，ivy league+MIT+Stanford，这些学校大部分都在纽约麻省，有能力有
想法的华人父母，应该更open-minded
【在 t******n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/best-prep-schools-2010-opinion
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w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 51 确实，那些好的私立高中，录取率就是10%不到，那100个来申请的已经都是各方面的人
尖子了。拿那种学校的大学去向和公立学校比，不算是公平的比较。
an
those
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: you have no idea how elite private school works in the US.
: it is much harder to get into one of these elite private schools than to an
: ivy.
: sure, you can get into a privet school with just money, but attending those
: 2nd or 3rd tier private schools, or catholic schools would not help your
: kids at all. most time, these private schools are way worse than public
: schools in good districts.
: parents send their kids to these 3rd tier private school not for superior
: academics but for religious principles...
|
H********k
发帖数: 3950 | 52 This Forbes list is long in inclusion. They got all the right names in.
I was a little concerned until Deerfield did pop up dead last at #20.
But the ranking is controversial.
All these schools are top top top. To try to nudge one against another is
not a popular thing to do.
One way or another.
They should be ranked by endowment size only.
Really.
【在 t******n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/best-prep-schools-2010-opinion
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L******k
发帖数: 33825 | 53 哎呀~~敲进门 也不容易啊~~敲进去一个 被拒了一个~~
所以 还是留纽约吧~~
以后再申请了~~ |
p*****r
发帖数: 595 | 54 你小孩?
【在 L******k 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀~~敲进门 也不容易啊~~敲进去一个 被拒了一个~~
: 所以 还是留纽约吧~~
: 以后再申请了~~
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