H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 1 PORTLAND, Ore. -- The University of Oregon has released documents related to
its use of recruiting services that suggest the school paid for information
that was outdated.
Feldman: Report Not Good For Ducks
When the NCAA spoke to Oregon earlier this spring, the Ducks had better have
been able to show more proof than what was released by the newspaper -- or
they'd better hope the NCAA buys that they were hoodwinked by Will Lyles,
writes Bruce Feldman. Story
• Pac-12 blog: Lots of skepticism
The documents include a "2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet" that
actually includes prep athletes who were part of the 2009 recruiting class.
It was part of a package that was purportedly for athletes entering school
in 2011.
The package was prepared by Texas-based Complete Scouting Services, an
agency run by Will Lyles. Oregon paid Lyles $25,000 in February 2010.
The NCAA is looking into the payment. Oregon maintains it did nothing wrong
by paying Lyles for the information. Many college programs pay for such
services.
Oregon's payment to Lyles has been questioned because of his relationship
with Ducks running backs Lache Seastrunk and LaMichael James. | b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 2 my gut feeling is that this is a coverup gone bad.
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【在 H*****r 的大作中提到】
: PORTLAND, Ore. -- The University of Oregon has released documents related to
: its use of recruiting services that suggest the school paid for information
: that was outdated.
: Feldman: Report Not Good For Ducks
: When the NCAA spoke to Oregon earlier this spring, the Ducks had better have
: been able to show more proof than what was released by the newspaper -- or
: they'd better hope the NCAA buys that they were hoodwinked by Will Lyles,
: writes Bruce Feldman. Story
: • Pac-12 blog: Lots of skepticism
: The documents include a "2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet" that
| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 3 居然还有已经死掉的player..
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/20/reports-ore
to
information
have
or
that
【在 H*****r 的大作中提到】
: PORTLAND, Ore. -- The University of Oregon has released documents related to
: its use of recruiting services that suggest the school paid for information
: that was outdated.
: Feldman: Report Not Good For Ducks
: When the NCAA spoke to Oregon earlier this spring, the Ducks had better have
: been able to show more proof than what was released by the newspaper -- or
: they'd better hope the NCAA buys that they were hoodwinked by Will Lyles,
: writes Bruce Feldman. Story
: • Pac-12 blog: Lots of skepticism
: The documents include a "2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet" that
| H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 4 I know, I know, the way the last 12 months have gone, it's getting hard to
keep all the dangling threads connected to various NCAA cases straight. But
maybe this one rings a bell: Back in March, the NCAA requested documents
from Oregon concerning a pair of overpriced recruiting services the Ducks
had purchased from suspiciously connected sources in Texas and Southern
California. Monday, the contents of those documents — including the
complete scouting report Oregon purchased from Houston-based "scout" Willie
Lyles for a whopping $25,000 — was released to the public.
And as far as NCAA violations are concerned, frankly, it seems there's not a
whole lot to see there: Oregon paid its money, and received its materials,
as do many other schools that use recruiting services within NCAA rules. In
fact, if the Ducks have anything to hang their heads over in the document
dump, it's not the possibility that they broke rules, but rather the
apparent realization that they vastly overpaid for egregiously outdated
information:
A national recruiting package purchased by Oregon in February 2010 that
included the player profiles for 140 players with the heading "Player
Profile 2011" is made up of virtually all 2009 high school graduates.
[…]
Amid the documents released by Oregon related to the football scouting
services inquiry were 140 recruiting profiles of high school players under
the heading "2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet." Above each
individual profile, however, reads "Player Profile 2011." The related
invoice cites the "2011 National Package."
A search of all the players listed revealed that virtually all graduated
from high school in 2009 with a few graduating in 2010 or 2008.
In short, Oregon paid $25,000 — significantly above the going market rate
— for the names of recruits it could not recruit because they had already
graduated from high school. As the Eugene Register-Guard's George Schroeder
notes, the "2011 package" purchased from Willie Lyles appears to contain
information on exactly zero 2011 recruits.
For a service with an allegedly national scope, Lyles' package is limited
geographically, too: The Oregonian counts just five of 140 players in the
report from outside the state of Texas (two from South Carolina, one each
from California, Louisiana and Oklahoma), and a significant portion of the
players are described as "Low Division I/Division IAA" or just "Division I
AA," well below the standard of athlete who might plausibly wind up at a
program like Oregon. One report evaluates a player as "an intelligent QB
that does not make many mistakes" and "a great student in the classroom,"
followed immediately by a coach's comment that the same player "needs to
work harder in the classroom." The verdict: Division I AA/II. (That player,
Dallas Skyline quarterback Chris Frazier, committed to SMU in the summer of
2008, and signed with the Mustangs the following January, more than a year
before Lyles sent his profile to Eugene.) One player who "plays with a huge
heart" is listed as a "Division II/ JUCO" prospect.
Yes, Oregon paid $25,000 for an obsolete recruiting list (unless that’s
just what it wants you to think)For another example, the "2011" profile
pictured to the right belongs to Kolby Gray, a Houston-area quarterback who
committed to Pittsburgh in January 2009, spent two seasons there as a safety
and is now looking to transfer to Baylor while also pursuing a country
music career. Based on the purported timeline of the scouting report, Oregon
learned about Gray, after he'd already been at Pitt for an entire year, for
the purpose of potentially recruiting him for the upcoming season this fall
... when in reality he'll be a junior already on his second D-I school.
If this sounds too stupid to believe, well, that's because it probably is.
The merely unflattering explanation is that Oregon was ripped off by a con
man who stuck the Ducks with a shoddy product — embarrassing, maybe, but
there's no NCAA rule against being gullible. The more cynical assumption is
the same as it was when Lyles' name first slithered up from the gutter of
the recruiting trail in the spring: That Oregon found a loophole in the
system that allowed it to "legally" funnel money to a middle man (Lyles) in
exchange for access to certain recruits it already knew more than enough
about.
In Lyles' case, he served as a friend and "mentor" to a pair of current Duck
speedsters from East Texas, a) Heisman Trophy finalist LaMichael James, who
invited Lyles to Orlando — on Lyles' dime — as a guest at the Home Depot
Awards Show last December, and b) former five-star recruit Lache Seastrunk,
with whom Lyles reportedly lived in the same house on at least a part-time
basis during Seastrunk's senior year in high school. Those two, the Ducks
kept pretty effective tabs on despite the distance. (Starting quarterback/
Houston native Darron Thomas, too.)
The rest of Lyles' offerings? As far as legitimate recruiting is concerned,
they were just ghosts. But that doesn't necessarily mean Oregon didn't get
from them exactly what it paid for.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 居然还有已经死掉的player..
: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/20/reports-ore
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| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 5 看来booster花钱买学生的纪念品违法，学校大模大样的拿公款买球员没问题。。。
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【在 H*****r 的大作中提到】
: I know, I know, the way the last 12 months have gone, it's getting hard to
: keep all the dangling threads connected to various NCAA cases straight. But
: maybe this one rings a bell: Back in March, the NCAA requested documents
: from Oregon concerning a pair of overpriced recruiting services the Ducks
: had purchased from suspiciously connected sources in Texas and Southern
: California. Monday, the contents of those documents — including the
: complete scouting report Oregon purchased from Houston-based "scout" Willie
: Lyles for a whopping $25,000 — was released to the public.
: And as far as NCAA violations are concerned, frankly, it seems there's not a
: whole lot to see there: Oregon paid its money, and received its materials,
| g*********d
发帖数: 8125 | 6 u gotta play with the "rules"
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 看来booster花钱买学生的纪念品违法，学校大模大样的拿公款买球员没问题。。。
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| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 7 是啊。我总结一下rule而已。
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: u gotta play with the "rules"
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