B*****p
发帖数: 301 | 1 Matt Linart现在根本不知道在啥地方。
Regie Bush被踢出球队，海斯曼杯也被迫退回。
Vince Young也是被踢出球队，好像也要退出NFL了。
当初这仨人多NB？现在看来大学橄榄球的超级明星与未来职业生涯发展程度基本无关。 |
k***r
发帖数: 13724 | 2
when? this is news.
【在 B*****p 的大作中提到】
: Matt Linart现在根本不知道在啥地方。
: Regie Bush被踢出球队，海斯曼杯也被迫退回。
: Vince Young也是被踢出球队，好像也要退出NFL了。
: 当初这仨人多NB？现在看来大学橄榄球的超级明星与未来职业生涯发展程度基本无关。
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 3 VY's problem is his head coach. Jeff Fisher didn't want VY and tried
everything he can do to make VY fail. Despite that, the Titans were 30-17
with VY as the starter and 15-18 without VY over the last 5 years. How many
QBs in the NFL can make that much impact on a team's record?
【在 B*****p 的大作中提到】
: Matt Linart现在根本不知道在啥地方。
: Regie Bush被踢出球队，海斯曼杯也被迫退回。
: Vince Young也是被踢出球队，好像也要退出NFL了。
: 当初这仨人多NB？现在看来大学橄榄球的超级明星与未来职业生涯发展程度基本无关。
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c****g
发帖数: 37081 | |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 5 作为no. 3 pick, VY确实是bust了。不用看什么win/loss, 除了
第一年后面都不行。再说以前titans有albert hainesworth的
时候还是主要靠defense吃饭的。
reggie bush还算servicable, but not worth 2nd pick. 被
saints cut主要是要价太高。he'll find a team.
ML - total bust
to sum it up, VY, ML won't find any buyers i suspect, RB will.
many
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: VY's problem is his head coach. Jeff Fisher didn't want VY and tried
: everything he can do to make VY fail. Despite that, the Titans were 30-17
: with VY as the starter and 15-18 without VY over the last 5 years. How many
: QBs in the NFL can make that much impact on a team's record?
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | |
s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 7 前一段传说VY要到redskins
然后传说John Beck下赛季要首发
然后合同都没有的毛人也号称自己下赛季会首发
毛人同时说NFL的QB能首发的前提条件是自己觉得自己能首发 |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 8 这句话说的不错。没有自信的QB就不会是好QB.
【在 s****h 的大作中提到】
: 前一段传说VY要到redskins
: 然后传说John Beck下赛季要首发
: 然后合同都没有的毛人也号称自己下赛季会首发
: 毛人同时说NFL的QB能首发的前提条件是自己觉得自己能首发
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s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 9 RB可是NCAA十年一遇的
强过PH这种五年一遇
MI？无数媒体说了，去年Bama最好的RB都轮不到他。
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: bush还能搞过我大巴马淫棍？
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 10 VY's career so far has not lived up to expectations for sure, but how many
NFL QBs have better winning % than VY over the last 5 years? If you don't
look at win/loss, then what do you look at?
Some NFL team will give VY another shot and he will surprise a lot of people.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 作为no. 3 pick, VY确实是bust了。不用看什么win/loss, 除了
: 第一年后面都不行。再说以前titans有albert hainesworth的
: 时候还是主要靠defense吃饭的。
: reggie bush还算servicable, but not worth 2nd pick. 被
: saints cut主要是要价太高。he'll find a team.
: ML - total bust
: to sum it up, VY, ML won't find any buyers i suspect, RB will.
:
: many
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 11 he was great the first year, but when NFL teams consider him,
they have to consider his RECENT history. what's his record in the past 2-3
years? probably not as impressives as the 5 year stat. Someone may give him
a chance as a backup but I don't see any surprises - he doesn't seem to have
the leadership that I thought he had while in texas.
at this point, RB > VY >> ML
also, win/loss can be overrated because you win as a team. Even craig
krenzel won his first 4 or 5 games as a chicago bear, DESPITE (not because
of) his play.
people.
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: VY's career so far has not lived up to expectations for sure, but how many
: NFL QBs have better winning % than VY over the last 5 years? If you don't
: look at win/loss, then what do you look at?
: Some NFL team will give VY another shot and he will surprise a lot of people.
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 12 Tennessee Titans' record over the last 5 years:
2006: 8-5 VY, 0-3 no VY
2007: 9-6 VY, 1-0 no VY
2008: 1-0 VY, 12-3 no VY
2009: 8-2 VY, 0-6 no VY
2010: 4-4 VY, 2-6 no VY
Several of VY's losses were games that he started but did not finish due
to injury, including two last minute losses in 2010.
VY has also improved very steadily over the years. His playing over the
last two years are far improved from his rookie year. Here are his QB
ratings over the years:
2006: 66.7
2007: 71.1
2008: 64.5
2009: 82.8
2010: 98.6
past 2-3
give him
to have
because
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: he was great the first year, but when NFL teams consider him,
: they have to consider his RECENT history. what's his record in the past 2-3
: years? probably not as impressives as the 5 year stat. Someone may give him
: a chance as a backup but I don't see any surprises - he doesn't seem to have
: the leadership that I thought he had while in texas.
: at this point, RB > VY >> ML
: also, win/loss can be overrated because you win as a team. Even craig
: krenzel won his first 4 or 5 games as a chicago bear, DESPITE (not because
: of) his play.
:
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 13 我看Bush还是很牛的，主要是打法不适合他，如果他到Phily种球队，对all-purpose
back用得比较爽的，他就能打得不错了。Bush在open space才能发挥他的威力，要他拿
着球run between the tackle，他不行。
VY就是精神有问题，怎么搞也不应该去自杀吧，和教练无关。不能单纯用no VY的record去衡量他，那些数据只能表明，Titan的后备QB太烂了，哈哈。
他自上那时候报上就说，很多UTexas出来的球员心理都不很成熟，因为在学校他们被粉丝，媒体捧得很高，所到之处都被奉为明星，到了NFL，tough business，一时承受不来。 |
z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 14 VY's backup is Kerry Collins (2-time pro-bowler, led the NY Giants to the
2001 Superbowl), who is more accomplished than the majority of starting
QBs in the NFL.
粉丝，
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: 我看Bush还是很牛的，主要是打法不适合他，如果他到Phily种球队，对all-purpose
: back用得比较爽的，他就能打得不错了。Bush在open space才能发挥他的威力，要他拿
: 着球run between the tackle，他不行。
: VY就是精神有问题，怎么搞也不应该去自杀吧，和教练无关。不能单纯用no VY的record去衡量他，那些数据只能表明，Titan的后备QB太烂了，哈哈。
: 他自上那时候报上就说，很多UTexas出来的球员心理都不很成熟，因为在学校他们被粉丝，媒体捧得很高，所到之处都被奉为明星，到了NFL，tough business，一时承受不来。
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 15 Collins那年替补上，就打得很差了，毕竟老了。 |
