N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 1 I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
"Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
who I think will have the best chance to win this
league.
1. Michigan State
No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
the crown, otherwise, sorry.
2. Iowa
Beat Wisconsin, Michigan State and Ohio State to win
the league, that's pretty decent schedule to make a
solid statement for Stanzi's senior year and revenge
last year's loss to Ohio State. They have the second
chance.
3. Wisconsin
Their only possibility to win the league comes from Iowa's
help of winning Michigan State. Of course they should beat
Iowa this week. Still kind of reasonable. Thanks to their
dominant win over us.
4. Ohio State
Sorry, purdue. I don't think you are gonna win the league
even you are undefeated in Big Ten yet. Injuries and road
games will be your biggest enemy. Ohio State has to win the
remaining games and MUST get help from Iowa, first beat
Wisconsin this week, and beat Michigan State later. At the
end, home loss to Ohio State. Are they that generous? or Are
they that good enough to win those two? or Are they sloppy
enough to win two best teams of Big Ten and lose to a sucked
Ohio State team? I don't see that as a reasonable option, but
a miracle. In miracle we believe, isn't it?
5. Other teams may give a shot.
Purdue, Northwestern.
Big Ten Champ Tie breaker:
1. Mutual Game Results
2. Percentage of Wins of all games
3. final BCS standing |
n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 2 i guess MSU may choke one or two games, and eventually either OSU or IOWA
will win this conference.
IOWA still seems to be strong ...
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 3 显然没好好看新闻，big ten这个名字不会改。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 4 Thanks for mentioning us in the Big Ten Champ
hunt. My heart was dead after the loss to Badgers
because that loses our chance for the big ten title.
If we are lucky enough to have a shot of title at
Iowa game, I would be happy enough.
IOWA
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: i guess MSU may choke one or two games, and eventually either OSU or IOWA
: will win this conference.
: IOWA still seems to be strong ...
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 5 我都一周没看新闻了，只顾好好学习了
btw: 这样艺术点，哈哈哈哈
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 显然没好好看新闻，big ten这个名字不会改。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 6 don't overlook your beloved OSU, just because of one game. JT is not the
guy who dares to go 4th down, but he IS the guy who has resistance to
collapse. this is the good part of being conservative.
frankly, with potential upsets coming, OSU may still have a shot to NCG.
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for mentioning us in the Big Ten Champ
: hunt. My heart was dead after the loss to Badgers
: because that loses our chance for the big ten title.
: If we are lucky enough to have a shot of title at
: Iowa game, I would be happy enough.
:
: IOWA
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 7 I want your big baozi, not wanna us embarrassed in NCG.
lol
the
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: don't overlook your beloved OSU, just because of one game. JT is not the
: guy who dares to go 4th down, but he IS the guy who has resistance to
: collapse. this is the good part of being conservative.
: frankly, with potential upsets coming, OSU may still have a shot to NCG.
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 8 losing a few bad games in NCG doesn't mean you will lose again. anything
can happen in college football ...
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I want your big baozi, not wanna us embarrassed in NCG.
: lol
:
: the
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 9 你老最竞发了这么多帖子，太多愁善感了，呵呵。
就输了那么一场比赛。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
|
N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 10 Yeah, sometimes it may take years to turn the fate
around. "anything can happen in college football ..."
I'm a little bit concerned about Sooners right now
if they play Ducks. Will Stoops be that unlucky?
anything
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: losing a few bad games in NCG doesn't mean you will lose again. anything
: can happen in college football ...
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i**w
发帖数: 787 | 11 大十这种商标怎么会改，肯定不会变的。大十今年很可能打出连环套，几个队分享冠军
称号。tie breaker不决定谁是冠军，而是在冠军里面再分高下，好决定碗赛的级别。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 12 I know, but the tie breaker winner can advance
to Rose, why not? Shared title in my
opinion is not convincing. Like we did in the
past several years.
【在 i**w 的大作中提到】
: 大十这种商标怎么会改，肯定不会变的。大十今年很可能打出连环套，几个队分享冠军
: 称号。tie breaker不决定谁是冠军，而是在冠军里面再分高下，好决定碗赛的级别。
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M***y
发帖数: 2252 | 13 big10的3way tie也很弱智嘛。。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
|
N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 14 人送" 码字工 "，谁让我就是搞计算机的呢
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: 你老最竞发了这么多帖子，太多愁善感了，呵呵。
: 就输了那么一场比赛。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 15 remember how badly alabama lost to utah before it became NC the next year
and how all the perceptions changed afterward?
OK is unknown to me. i've only seen it playing Texas, and it's hard for me
to judge.
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, sometimes it may take years to turn the fate
: around. "anything can happen in college football ..."
: I'm a little bit concerned about Sooners right now
: if they play Ducks. Will Stoops be that unlucky?
:
: anything
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 16 说到这个，想起来昨天我们白人同事提到banglore的印度员工是monkey coder。很是鄙
视。白人其实最会歧视了。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: 人送" 码字工 "，谁让我就是搞计算机的呢
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 17 反正是最后一年了
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: big10的3way tie也很弱智嘛。。
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 18 That's why I don't wanna be a coder after graduation.
I wanna switch to business field, although I'm not
sure if I am "a green onion" of that.
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 说到这个，想起来昨天我们白人同事提到banglore的印度员工是monkey coder。很是鄙
: 视。白人其实最会歧视了。
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 19 Come on, give Wisconsin more respect. Even ESPN thinks Iowa and Wisconsin
are mirror of each other and difficult to call. I would call Wisconsin
simply because Iowa won last year.
MSU controls its destiny, but it may even fail at Northwestern! This is
Big 10, not BSU's conference, anything can happen.
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure next year they will still use the name
: "Big Ten", but never mind, let's just assume this is
: the last season for the Big Ten. Let me show you
: who I think will have the best chance to win this
: league.
: 1. Michigan State
: No doubt about it. If they don't make stupid mistakes
: to Northwestern and Purdue or Penn State. They can
: hold their championship destiny until Iowa game. If
: they are truly good, they should beat Iowa and get
|
n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 20 it is obvious that you are still very young ...
after many years, you will realize that doing programming in computer world
is not a bad choice at all, and business/finance domain is not as juicy as
you have thought ...
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: That's why I don't wanna be a coder after graduation.
: I wanna switch to business field, although I'm not
: sure if I am "a green onion" of that.
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 21 i agree that i overlooked wisc after that ASU game ...
i am not a big 10 expert so i really have no clue how things will shake up.
【在 L*1 的大作中提到】
: Come on, give Wisconsin more respect. Even ESPN thinks Iowa and Wisconsin
: are mirror of each other and difficult to call. I would call Wisconsin
: simply because Iowa won last year.
: MSU controls its destiny, but it may even fail at Northwestern! This is
: Big 10, not BSU's conference, anything can happen.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 22 wisc/iowa确实hard to call, 我没敢赌这场。
【在 L*1 的大作中提到】
: Come on, give Wisconsin more respect. Even ESPN thinks Iowa and Wisconsin
: are mirror of each other and difficult to call. I would call Wisconsin
: simply because Iowa won last year.
: MSU controls its destiny, but it may even fail at Northwestern! This is
: Big 10, not BSU's conference, anything can happen.
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 23 Agree. Not everyone is a good fit for finance, doctor, or lawyer. But
programming/coder fits more people, and usually with a decent income.
world
as
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: it is obvious that you are still very young ...
: after many years, you will realize that doing programming in computer world
: is not a bad choice at all, and business/finance domain is not as juicy as
: you have thought ...
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 24 I know, but I'm not ready to take Programming as my
whole life. The income of most coders is so so, not
bad, but also not decent.
【在 L*1 的大作中提到】
: Agree. Not everyone is a good fit for finance, doctor, or lawyer. But
: programming/coder fits more people, and usually with a decent income.
:
: world
: as
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 25 coder和xxxx一样，都是青春饭。呵呵。
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: I know, but I'm not ready to take Programming as my
: whole life. The income of most coders is so so, not
: bad, but also not decent.
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 26 Exactly, only if you are Big Cows e.g. creator of
Java or C++ or sth like that
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: coder和xxxx一样，都是青春饭。呵呵。
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 27 Not in US. In China, yes.
BTW, as a coder, you have plenty of energy and time to do things you
really like (but may not bring you additional income).
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: coder和xxxx一样，都是青春饭。呵呵。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 28 没想到你老出自湾区，说出这么不成熟的话。：）
我们这里各个level的architect权利可大了。我上一层的architect说话，directors都
得老老实实地听，连vp都得镜他三分。
人家还有买不买up to 1 Billion business的参与／决定权。
钱上，也相当不错。奖金基数是45％，就是说如果表现系数是1，每年就差不多能拿45
％的奖金。RSU那就更多了去了。
这些都得有些天分，然后熬年头啊。我说的这种还没有到业界的大牛的。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: coder和xxxx一样，都是青春饭。呵呵。
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 29 做到architect的有几个？每个行业都有赚钱的。连当年GOOG的front desk都发财了吧。
难道大家都去当front desk?
想想，tech在大公司的最高境界也就是architect, 还是太可悲了。
不过tech至少可以保底，中产阶级没什么问题。
45
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 没想到你老出自湾区，说出这么不成熟的话。：）
: 我们这里各个level的architect权利可大了。我上一层的architect说话，directors都
: 得老老实实地听，连vp都得镜他三分。
: 人家还有买不买up to 1 Billion business的参与／决定权。
: 钱上，也相当不错。奖金基数是45％，就是说如果表现系数是1，每年就差不多能拿45
: ％的奖金。RSU那就更多了去了。
: 这些都得有些天分，然后熬年头啊。我说的这种还没有到业界的大牛的。
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N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 30 俺估摸着msu今年还是会在欢乐谷choke....
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: i guess MSU may choke one or two games, and eventually either OSU or IOWA
: will win this conference.
: IOWA still seems to be strong ...
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 31 另外，做tech的活到老学到老，像我这样整天不思上进的，一旦被裁员了，
就不好再找工作了。没啥拿得出手的tech skills. 还是做management好，
或者做生意，经验积累下来都是财富。tech的经验，很多很快就没用了
(of course exceptions apply too).
吧。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 做到architect的有几个？每个行业都有赚钱的。连当年GOOG的front desk都发财了吧。
: 难道大家都去当front desk?
: 想想，tech在大公司的最高境界也就是architect, 还是太可悲了。
: 不过tech至少可以保底，中产阶级没什么问题。
:
: 45
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 32 impossible. psu is not going to rebound this year. 今年我觉得
psu是没有碗了。
【在 N*********n 的大作中提到】
: 俺估摸着msu今年还是会在欢乐谷choke....
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 33 to the best of my knowledge, it does not really matter much where you start,
whether be a coder or a financial analyst. Ultimately, it is the best to
run ur own business and be your own boss.
【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: That's why I don't wanna be a coder after graduation.
: I wanna switch to business field, although I'm not
: sure if I am "a green onion" of that.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 34 well the ultimate ultimate goal is to have enough money to do what you would
rather do if you didn't have to worry about money. be a highly paid
employee, or run your own business, just different approaches to the same
goal. heheheh
start,
【在 G****e 的大作中提到】
: to the best of my knowledge, it does not really matter much where you start,
: whether be a coder or a financial analyst. Ultimately, it is the best to
: run ur own business and be your own boss.
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i**w
发帖数: 787 | 35 illini这赛季都拿到欢乐谷的首胜了，你们今年rebuilt，是我们的机会。不过貌似你
们有三个受伤的LB都回来了，防守上应该会加强不少。
【在 N*********n 的大作中提到】
: 俺估摸着msu今年还是会在欢乐谷choke....
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 36 Im with u on this one. hehe
吧。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 做到architect的有几个？每个行业都有赚钱的。连当年GOOG的front desk都发财了吧。
: 难道大家都去当front desk?
: 想想，tech在大公司的最高境界也就是architect, 还是太可悲了。
: 不过tech至少可以保底，中产阶级没什么问题。
:
: 45
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N*********6
发帖数: 4372 | 37 yeah, get enough money I want
would
same
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: well the ultimate ultimate goal is to have enough money to do what you would
: rather do if you didn't have to worry about money. be a highly paid
: employee, or run your own business, just different approaches to the same
: goal. heheheh
:
: start,
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 38 my goal is to live on gov't pension (hopefully it's still there) and do
whatever I want.
btw, I lost 50 bucks on ur team last weekend in Vegas. It sucks :(
would
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: well the ultimate ultimate goal is to have enough money to do what you would
: rather do if you didn't have to worry about money. be a highly paid
: employee, or run your own business, just different approaches to the same
: goal. heheheh
:
: start,
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 39 comfort, i lost $50 too. never bet on osu again. this week my big bets are
ou -3 mizzou, msu -6 nw, louisville -2.5 uconn, smu -5.5 houston, pitt
moneyline. hehe.
【在 G****e 的大作中提到】
: my goal is to live on gov't pension (hopefully it's still there) and do
: whatever I want.
: btw, I lost 50 bucks on ur team last weekend in Vegas. It sucks :(
:
: would
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 40 I was going to bet on Iowa but I got up too late. I ended up betting on
buckeyes :(
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: comfort, i lost $50 too. never bet on osu again. this week my big bets are
: ou -3 mizzou, msu -6 nw, louisville -2.5 uconn, smu -5.5 houston, pitt
: moneyline. hehe.
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 41 不是不同易你的观点，只是说做什么也都是靠天分，经验，和运气的。
你认识的有几个做business坐大，做成功的？有几个做finance真正做到大钱了？也都
是区区几个有天份，有孕气的人而已。
我身边的ambitious的很多，做business的也不少，真正成功的很少，反过来还不如老
老实实做人的强。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 另外，做tech的活到老学到老，像我这样整天不思上进的，一旦被裁员了，
: 就不好再找工作了。没啥拿得出手的tech skills. 还是做management好，
: 或者做生意，经验积累下来都是财富。tech的经验，很多很快就没用了
: (of course exceptions apply too).
:
: 吧。
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 42 现在做tech的大部分还年轻，不觉得。等老了没时间学习，然后不幸被layoff就有差距
了。
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 不是不同易你的观点，只是说做什么也都是靠天分，经验，和运气的。
: 你认识的有几个做business坐大，做成功的？有几个做finance真正做到大钱了？也都
: 是区区几个有天份，有孕气的人而已。
: 我身边的ambitious的很多，做business的也不少，真正成功的很少，反过来还不如老
: 老实实做人的强。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 43 我身边有几个五十多的，在工作上就是混了，挣的钱也不多（工资，奖金），好就好在
美国没有什么歧视，还是干技术。现在觉得在家里繁，找个事儿干。孩子也都毕业出去
了。
他们每个人都有几个million houses paid off，决不是靠发财得的，而是一点一滴积
累的，因为工作生活稳定，没有太多动荡。
相反，他们的几个朋友，有的一直在做生意，起起伏伏，倒是劳德一场空。
我觉得还是第一种好。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 现在做tech的大部分还年轻，不觉得。等老了没时间学习，然后不幸被layoff就有差距
: 了。
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 44 不要老想着狗狗啊果果啊之类的大公司，其实为社区提供服务的小公司就很好啊。这种
公司遍地都是。比如我有个学生就搞了个洗地毯的小公司，生意虽然刚起步但也还红火
。这种公司本小风险也小，只要稳定了，收入不差
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 不是不同易你的观点，只是说做什么也都是靠天分，经验，和运气的。
: 你认识的有几个做business坐大，做成功的？有几个做finance真正做到大钱了？也都
: 是区区几个有天份，有孕气的人而已。
: 我身边的ambitious的很多，做business的也不少，真正成功的很少，反过来还不如老
: 老实实做人的强。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 45 有一定道理，但你知道有多操心吗？
我以前办过公司，后来卖了，算是decent的结局，但我想起来，还是一辈子都不想干类
似的了。
【在 G****e 的大作中提到】
: 不要老想着狗狗啊果果啊之类的大公司，其实为社区提供服务的小公司就很好啊。这种
: 公司遍地都是。比如我有个学生就搞了个洗地毯的小公司，生意虽然刚起步但也还红火
: 。这种公司本小风险也小，只要稳定了，收入不差
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 46 卖了多少钱?
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 有一定道理，但你知道有多操心吗？
: 我以前办过公司，后来卖了，算是decent的结局，但我想起来，还是一辈子都不想干类
: 似的了。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 47 kao, too private le bah.
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 卖了多少钱?
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G****e
发帖数: 487 | 48 呵呵，这个自然也是因人而异啊。但我相信很多人还是愿意自己做老板，那就要多操心
啊。而且我们外来户来开业本来就处在劣势，付出就更多。所以是否enjoy很重要。我
碰到过的一个body shop的老板，是个老印，忙是忙，可是老婆孩子几乎每时每刻都在
身边，还不停跟我炫耀他有多少辆豪华车，我看他就很enjoy。我只是说这方面的机会
还是很多的。
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 有一定道理，但你知道有多操心吗？
: 我以前办过公司，后来卖了，算是decent的结局，但我想起来，还是一辈子都不想干类
: 似的了。
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 49 没经历过的都是这么想（enjoy），做了才会知道。（国内歪财除外）
当然人和人，经历还是不一样的。我原来非常对于生活非常aggressive，现在非常保守。
【在 G****e 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，这个自然也是因人而异啊。但我相信很多人还是愿意自己做老板，那就要多操心
: 啊。而且我们外来户来开业本来就处在劣势，付出就更多。所以是否enjoy很重要。我
: 碰到过的一个body shop的老板，是个老印，忙是忙，可是老婆孩子几乎每时每刻都在
: 身边，还不停跟我炫耀他有多少辆豪华车，我看他就很enjoy。我只是说这方面的机会
: 还是很多的。
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 50 能挣到钱才容易 enjoy, 但挣不到的是大多数
【在 G****e 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，这个自然也是因人而异啊。但我相信很多人还是愿意自己做老板，那就要多操心
: 啊。而且我们外来户来开业本来就处在劣势，付出就更多。所以是否enjoy很重要。我
: 碰到过的一个body shop的老板，是个老印，忙是忙，可是老婆孩子几乎每时每刻都在
: 身边，还不停跟我炫耀他有多少辆豪华车，我看他就很enjoy。我只是说这方面的机会
: 还是很多的。
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g*********d
发帖数: 8125 | 51 agree,钱不重要，关键是操心劳力，和给别人打工心态很不一样。一个字：累
【在 n***k 的大作中提到】
: 有一定道理，但你知道有多操心吗？
: 我以前办过公司，后来卖了，算是decent的结局，但我想起来，还是一辈子都不想干类
: 似的了。
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 52 老板都跳出来了, 也不知道是吃猪肉的还是看猪跑的,哈哈
【在 g*********d 的大作中提到】
: agree,钱不重要，关键是操心劳力，和给别人打工心态很不一样。一个字：累
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 53 我们这些做猪的。。只管吃饭睡觉灌水，其他改不关心
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 老板都跳出来了, 也不知道是吃猪肉的还是看猪跑的,哈哈
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n***k
发帖数: 2780 | 54 对，好好享受ncaa football给大家带来的乐趣和自己球队sucks带来地痛苦。
什么排名，什么business，什么在国内干地秃了皮了，都是浮云。。。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 我们这些做猪的。。只管吃饭睡觉灌水，其他改不关心
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 55 你那个layoff package恐怕够好些"老板"干3, 5年了吧.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 我们这些做猪的。。只管吃饭睡觉灌水，其他改不关心
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 56 你也太抬举我了。我这2年又不是天天吃白饭的，也在干活糊口啊。呵呵
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你那个layoff package恐怕够好些"老板"干3, 5年了吧.
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t******t
发帖数: 3045 | 57 what if the boilermakers beat the buckeyes again |
t***u
发帖数: 20182 | 58 美的你了
【在 t******t 的大作中提到】
: what if the boilermakers beat the buckeyes again
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