p***r
发帖数: 4606 | 1 My picks:
Biggest winner: Sam Braford, drafted as the No 1 pick is always a winner
Biggest supprise: Tim Tebow, drafted at the middle of 1st round and easily g
etting the focus of the 1st day draft
Loser:
Snead, once considered to be 1st round pick and finished with undrafted
Clausen, once considered a 1st pick candidate and slided to mid 2nd round
May, once considered a top 2 safety, excellent 40 speed in the combine, ende
d up as a 2nd round pick |
d*****e
发帖数: 2684 | 2
Tebow
from round 3 to round 1
No 1 pick is always a winner
g
ende
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: My picks:
: Biggest winner: Sam Braford, drafted as the No 1 pick is always a winner
: Biggest supprise: Tim Tebow, drafted at the middle of 1st round and easily g
: etting the focus of the 1st day draft
: Loser:
: Snead, once considered to be 1st round pick and finished with undrafted
: Clausen, once considered a 1st pick candidate and slided to mid 2nd round
: May, once considered a top 2 safety, excellent 40 speed in the combine, ende
: d up as a 2nd round pick
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 3 about snead:
"Most people at my level feel he is a joke," a veteran NFL scout told us
via e-mail. "People in the league respect Kiper. He is not a true scout but
he does work at it. A lot of his info he gets from connections in the
league, and over the years he has made quite a few. When he was younger he
used to burn some bridges. He doesn't do that any more."
So what about McShay?
"McShay does not have any good connections," the source opined. "Higher-
ups in the league think he is |
o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 4 I kiper or snead a joke?
I believe it is kiper, which I absolutely agree.
us
but
Higher-
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: about snead:
: "Most people at my level feel he is a joke," a veteran NFL scout told us
: via e-mail. "People in the league respect Kiper. He is not a true scout but
: he does work at it. A lot of his info he gets from connections in the
: league, and over the years he has made quite a few. When he was younger he
: used to burn some bridges. He doesn't do that any more."
: So what about McShay?
: "McShay does not have any good connections," the source opined. "Higher-
: ups in the league think he is
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 5 显然是mcshay啊。
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: I kiper or snead a joke?
: I believe it is kiper, which I absolutely agree.
:
: us
: but
: Higher-
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 6 He actually predicted the draft much better than Kiper did, who is obviously
very pissed that his golden boy did not get draft until middle 2nd round.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 显然是mcshay啊。
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 7 at least clausen got drafted, how about mcshay's golden boy snead who, accor
ding to him, is a top 5 pick?
you're obviously very very biased
obviously
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: He actually predicted the draft much better than Kiper did, who is obviously
: very pissed that his golden boy did not get draft until middle 2nd round.
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 8 那是一年以前吧，最近it有这么claim吗？
accor
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: at least clausen got drafted, how about mcshay's golden boy snead who, accor
: ding to him, is a top 5 pick?
: you're obviously very very biased
:
: obviously
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 9 did he ever retract it? 就算看最后的mock draft, todd mcshay 一样把jimmy clau
sen放在no. 2 QB, top 12 pick里面，和kiper有啥区别？起码kiper没有说错了假装忘
记吧
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那是一年以前吧，最近it有这么claim吗？
:
: accor
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 10 Of course, I am very very biased, for a good reason.
I don't know about Mcshay put snead in top5, did he really? Honestly I don't
even know what he looks like but I did hear people say his draft prediction
during the draft day is very accurate.
Based Kiper, other than Mccoy, all other first rounders from OU are risky
ones. And he TRADITIONALLY puts golden domer's players on the higher
position, he just has the same bias as I did.
accor
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: at least clausen got drafted, how about mcshay's golden boy snead who, accor
: ding to him, is a top 5 pick?
: you're obviously very very biased
:
: obviously
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 11 And are you sure that Mcshay said that Snead is a top5 pick?
Here is the link that I found in 2009 May:
http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/5/4/864366/espns-todd-mcshay-2010-nfl-mock
If Snead was not in his first round prediction before 2010 season, I can'
see why he would put Snead in the top5 after the 2010 season.
accor
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: at least clausen got drafted, how about mcshay's golden boy snead who, accor
: ding to him, is a top 5 pick?
: you're obviously very very biased
:
: obviously
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 12 哦，这个还要retract的阿？直接mock draft里往下排不就得了
top 12 pick？
what's this?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=5125476
再早一点的版本也没有到12啊
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=5059813
Kiper好像最后也忘记了和macshay的bet了，是不是假装不知道，光顾着强调克劳僧会有
最好的nfl career了，打肿了脸不照镜子就行了
clau
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: did he ever retract it? 就算看最后的mock draft, todd mcshay 一样把jimmy clau
: sen放在no. 2 QB, top 12 pick里面，和kiper有啥区别？起码kiper没有说错了假装忘
: 记吧
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 13 业界流传去年八月是有这样的传闻，但我不知道这个statement到底是发表在哪里的，因
为从mcshay去年底第一次mock开始好像snead就不在第一轮
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: And are you sure that Mcshay said that Snead is a top5 pick?
: Here is the link that I found in 2009 May:
: http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/5/4/864366/espns-todd-mcshay-2010-nfl-mock
: If Snead was not in his first round prediction before 2010 season, I can'
: see why he would put Snead in the top5 after the 2010 season.
:
: accor
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 14 有没有发现今年draft到后来梅凯猪很不寻常的非常安静，一直在翻他那堆纸，光听咕噜
灯和扬斯蒂扯了，hoho
't
prediction
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: Of course, I am very very biased, for a good reason.
: I don't know about Mcshay put snead in top5, did he really? Honestly I don't
: even know what he looks like but I did hear people say his draft prediction
: during the draft day is very accurate.
: Based Kiper, other than Mccoy, all other first rounders from OU are risky
: ones. And he TRADITIONALLY puts golden domer's players on the higher
: position, he just has the same bias as I did.
:
: accor
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 15 haha.
i think the honor of stupidity goes to Snead if he actually believed in any
of this analysis. He has not made good decision both on and off the field
in his college career. |
m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 16 he must be thinking of this:
Earlier 4/19 on ESPN, McShay and Kiper were making "bold predictions" for th
e 2010 draft and, they both focused on Clausen's status.
Said Kiper, "If Clausen's not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL,
I'm done."
McShay then said that Clausen will not go in the top 10 picks.
"I'll take that," Kiper said. "I'll take that one right there."
So there it is. If Clausen is taken in the top 10, Kiper wins. If he isn't
McShay wins.
咕噜
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: 有没有发现今年draft到后来梅凯猪很不寻常的非常安静，一直在翻他那堆纸，光听咕噜
: 灯和扬斯蒂扯了，hoho
:
: 't
: prediction
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 17 输了有什么惩罚？kiss毛驴的屁股？还是真的引咎辞职？ |
s***p
发帖数: 2705 | 18 我觉得咕噜灯等人心里挺瞧不起kiper的，说话也不太投机，kiper就只好装作翻纸了
咕噜
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: 有没有发现今年draft到后来梅凯猪很不寻常的非常安静，一直在翻他那堆纸，光听咕噜
: 灯和扬斯蒂扯了，hoho
:
: 't
: prediction
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 19 I think kipers knows his mistake but just didn't want to admit it.
He is more like vitale, always "duke univeristy"
咕噜
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: 有没有发现今年draft到后来梅凯猪很不寻常的非常安静，一直在翻他那堆纸，光听咕噜
: 灯和扬斯蒂扯了，hoho
:
: 't
: prediction
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d**j
发帖数: 23329 | 20 Tebow should be the biggest winner for the decade.
May's grade is only 89 in ESPN and you consider him as one of the biggest
losers? This post should be sent to Joke.
easily g
round
ende
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: My picks:
: Biggest winner: Sam Braford, drafted as the No 1 pick is always a winner
: Biggest supprise: Tim Tebow, drafted at the middle of 1st round and easily g
: etting the focus of the 1st day draft
: Loser:
: Snead, once considered to be 1st round pick and finished with undrafted
: Clausen, once considered a 1st pick candidate and slided to mid 2nd round
: May, once considered a top 2 safety, excellent 40 speed in the combine, ende
: d up as a 2nd round pick
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b*****a
发帖数: 14583 | 21 这种纸上谈兵的伪 scout 能作为一种体面的职业存在，本身就是个怪胎
【在 s***p 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得咕噜灯等人心里挺瞧不起kiper的，说话也不太投机，kiper就只好装作翻纸了
:
: 咕噜
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s****y
发帖数: 958 | 22 说实话，Kiper，还有以前那个tom lemming俺都非常鄙视。
记得上次看到Teddy Bruski也很不吊Kiper。
【在 b*****a 的大作中提到】
: 这种纸上谈兵的伪 scout 能作为一种体面的职业存在，本身就是个怪胎
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d******e
发帖数: 551 | 23
g
Alualu? I can't believe Jaguars didn't trade down their pick. They could
have easily traded down their 10th pick with a late first round (Tebow) and
early 2nd round (Alualu). If they missed Tebow they can still draft Alualu
with the late first round and have an extra early second round.
I feel Tony Pike is a bigger loser than Clausen. Considered the top 5, tall
and strong QB with very accurate arms, he slipped to the 6th round because
of injury concerns, and very unfortunately to a team that
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: My picks:
: Biggest winner: Sam Braford, drafted as the No 1 pick is always a winner
: Biggest supprise: Tim Tebow, drafted at the middle of 1st round and easily g
: etting the focus of the 1st day draft
: Loser:
: Snead, once considered to be 1st round pick and finished with undrafted
: Clausen, once considered a 1st pick candidate and slided to mid 2nd round
: May, once considered a top 2 safety, excellent 40 speed in the combine, ende
: d up as a 2nd round pick
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p**m
发帖数: 11571 | 24 没错，我觉得berkeley根本就不应该有首轮。alualu和best肯定都是bust。
and
tall
because
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
:
: g
: Alualu? I can't believe Jaguars didn't trade down their pick. They could
: have easily traded down their 10th pick with a late first round (Tebow) and
: early 2nd round (Alualu). If they missed Tebow they can still draft Alualu
: with the late first round and have an extra early second round.
: I feel Tony Pike is a bigger loser than Clausen. Considered the top 5, tall
: and strong QB with very accurate arms, he slipped to the 6th round because
: of injury concerns, and very unfortunately to a team that
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