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[美国JRs之声]老球星厚古簙今只因怀旧，詹杜哈威库正在让比赛变得更精彩！
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Danny Ainge: "I think the game is getting a lot better. A lot of people I've
run into say the game was so much better in the 1980s but I don't see that.
I see the NBA is getting better."
丹尼-安吉：“我觉得现在的比赛变得好多了。我遇到过的很多人都说，上世纪80年代
的比赛要好得多，但我并不这么觉得，我觉得NBA正变得越来越好。”
He talks more about the current trend of NBA and players getting better
every year with players like Russ, Harden, Lebron, Durant, Curry all
improving the quality of the NBA, pretty cool interview. Stark difference
from past players who all bash the modern NBA
安吉谈论的内容，更多的是有关NBA目前的发展趋势，以及诸如威少、哈登、詹姆斯、
杜兰特、库里这样的球员提高了NBA的比赛质量，使得球员们每年都在变得更好，这是
个相当不错的采访。他的看法与那些抨击现代NBA的老派球员截然不同。
[–]LakersJakanzi 223 指標 14小時前
I think it's telling that none of the people who think the game was better
back then work for an actual NBA front office.
我觉得，那些觉得以前的NBA更好的人没有一个是真正在NBA管理层工作还是很说明问题
的。
[–][LAC] Doc Riversisaacz321 75 指標 13小時前
one of the best points on this thread. It's really front office and maybe
coaches' opinions who matter, not tv analysts or even worse just old guys
not doing anything.
你是这个帖子里最好的几个观点之一。只有真正的管理层，可能还有教练的观点才是重
要的，而不是TV评论员，更不是那些啥也没做的老家伙们。
[–][CLE] Shaquille O'NealNaywe 417 指標 14小時前
No shit. People improve with time. The only ones who say otherwise are all
blinded by nostalgia.
没错，人们是不断进化的。那些不这么想的人都是被怀旧情结蒙蔽了双眼。
[–]Cavaliers BandwagonMrDingus20 167 指標 14小時前
You could literally put this comment in almost any subreddit I belong to
that is a hobby or a thing I am a fan of and it would fit perfectly. I swear
to god we are in the age of nostalgia and it's weird.
不夸张的说，在几乎任何一个，因为是我的爱好或者是我所热衷的事物而关注的子版块
中，都可以像楼上这么回复，而且还会非常合适。我对老天发誓，我们正处在一个怀旧
的时代之中，而这真挺奇怪的。
[–][PHI] Joel EmbiidLRW35 29 指標 12小時前
The age of nostalgia is perpetual when remembering certain things. People,
or rather certain groups, will always think things were better when they
were in their own prime.
每当回想起某些特定的事物时，怀旧总是会被没完没了的提到。人们，倒不如说是某些
团体，总觉得在他们人生黄金时期的事物才是最好的。
[–]Celticsjgr79 31 指標 13小時前
Basketball isn't like running where raw speed is the only metric that
matters though.
The players are certainly getting better in basketball as well as in all
sports – they're faster, stronger, more athletic. But it would be very
possible for the players to be getting better but the game to be getting
worse.
In fact I think there are a lot of fans who think that exact thing happened
from say 1990-2005 compared to, say, the 15 years prior. Scoring had dropped
. Pace had dropped. The players were better on paper than the earlier period
but the game wasn't as good. There was something unbalanced about the way
players were improving that caused the game to be less enjoyable.
These days I think the players are better than in the past and the game is
actually better. Certainly than the 90s style, but perhaps even than the 80s
style.
然而篮球并不像是跑步那样，只有纯粹的速度才是唯一重要的衡量标准。
与所有的体育运动一样，篮球运动员当然也在变得越来越出色——他们变得更迅速、更
强壮、运动能力更强，但也很可能会出现球员变得越来越好，而比赛则变得越来越糟的
情况。
实际上，我觉得会有很多的球迷认为，比如与之前的十五年相比，在1990-2005这十五
年中就发生着（球员更好，比赛却更糟）这样的事。球员的得分在不断下降，比赛节奏
逐渐变慢，从理论上来说，那时的球员比以前的球员更加出色，但比赛却不像以前那样
好看。球员在提高自身水平的过程中存在着某些不平衡的地方，这也导致了比赛观赏性
的下降。
现在，我觉得如今的球员相比过去要更加出色，而且实际上比赛也更加好看。肯定是比
90年代的风格要好看的，也许甚至比80年代的风格也要好看。
[–]New Jersey NetsFrigidevil 8 指標 11小時前
The word 'better' is so subjective, it could mean almost anything depending
on context. If you like physical play, the 80s are better than today. If you
like 3s, today is better than the 80s. If you like short shorts, the 80s
blows today out of the water.
“更好看”这个词太主观了，根据使用环境的不同，这个词几乎可以是任何意思。如果
你喜欢激烈的身体对抗，80年代比现在要更好，如果你喜欢看三分，现在的时代比80年
代要好看，如果你喜欢看超短裤，那和80年代相比，现在的比赛简直没法看。
[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 134 指標 14小時前
The players have gotten better no doubt. That is an objective fact.
From a purely entertainment perspective, I do miss the 2000's. I just felt
like baskets were so much more important. I liked the grind-game. I liked
one three pointer being a momentum swing. I liked close games. I liked
defensive struggles.
Now there are a lot of blowouts due to the focus on the three ball. Just a
lot of back and forth. I know a lot of people love it. I don't personally
like it as much. Maybe it's nostalgia. But I really enjoyed game 7 last year
when it was 89-89 near the end of the fourth. I'll take 89-89 over 121-121
any day. Like I said, maybe it's just nostalgia talking.
毫无疑问，现在的球员更加出色，这是个客观的事实。
单纯从娱乐的角度来看的话，我真的很怀念2000年代的比赛，我只是觉得当时每得一分
要比现在重要得多，我喜欢看绞肉机式的比赛，喜欢一记三分就能提升球队的气势，也
喜欢胶着的比赛，在防守端不断地肉搏。
如今，由于三分球成了重中之重，导致了很多打花的比赛，还有很多来回的对攻。我知
道有很多人喜欢看这样的比赛，然而我个人并不是很喜欢，也许是因为怀旧的原因吧，
但我真的很喜欢去年总决赛那个在第四节快结束时，比分仍是89平的抢七。无论何时，
我都觉得89平比121平要好看，正如我所说的那样，也许只是一种怀旧的说辞吧。
[–][TOR] Chris BoshRebounnd 16 指標 14小時前
Isn't this an objective fact? The only people who think the league was
better in the past are older dudes who grew up watching Magic/Bird/Jordan/
etc.
难道这不是客观事实吗？那些觉得以前的联盟更好的人，都是些看着魔术师、大鸟伯德
、乔丹等等这些人长大的老家伙啊。
[–]Knicksbrohymn 50 指標 14小時前
Interesting enough, I'm probably one of the oldest on here, started watching
the NBA at '88 and adamant in arguing that the NBA has never been more
skilled and talented as it is today.
Most people my age (36) that actually watches basketball actually seem to
agree but the people that often disagree seem to be younger kids that feel
they need to argue for the 80's and 90's based on watching Youtube
highlights. Its as if they feel like they are smarter and more wise by being
contrarians...
Its a bizarre thing that I see on /r/nba all the time.
I swear, one time some kid was arguing that George Mikan would be a top 5
Center in the league today. Seriously, what? Curiosity got to me and I was
looking through his comments and turns out he's a freshman in college. What
business does a 18 year old kid have in arguing that Mikan would be one of
the best centers in the league today?
楼上真是因吹斯汀，我可能是这里年纪最大的球迷之一，我从88年就开始看NBA了，而
我也坚定的相信，NBA从没有像今天这样充满了技巧和天赋。
大多数像我这个年纪（36岁），而且真正看过球的人，实际上好像也同意我的观点，但
是通常不认同我看法的那些人，好像都是些因为在YouTube上看过高光集锦，就觉得自
己有必要为80年代和90年代站出来说话的毛头小子，仿佛他们成为了天选之子，就能让
他们觉得自己比别人更聪明更博学一样……
这是SHH里一直让我觉得匪夷所思的一件事。
我发誓，有一次我看到有些小孩在争论说，在如今的联盟里，乔治-麦肯会不会成为联
盟前五的中锋。说真的，搞笑呢？我感到很好奇，然后我仔细的翻了下他的评论，发现
他是个大一新生。麦肯能不能成为当今联盟前五的中锋，和一个18岁的小孩有啥关系呢？
[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesswatbustist 5 指標 13小時前
I'll say this. The TNT guys bring up the fact that in the 80s to be a
superstar you had to affect more areas of the game. Pts reb ast def
leadership tempo of the game. Now a days you need fewer to be considered a
superstar, which I agree with. I also think every team taking a bunch of bad
3s because of how the math works makes for a worse product and more
blowouts
我要说的是，TNT的家伙们提出了这样的一个事实，那就是在80年代，要想成为一个超
巨，你需要在比赛更多的方面中发挥作用，得分、篮板、助攻、防守、领袖能力还有比
赛节奏。而现在，要成为超巨的话你需要做的会更少一些，这点我是同意的。同时我也
觉得，现在每支球队都会有很多糟糕的三分出手——就只是因为三分比两分多一分罢了
——才出现了更糟糕的比赛，以及更多被打花了的比赛。 |
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