m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 1 should i wait for another week so most others already seen it? |
p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 2 Spoiler:
The plot is very easy to understand if you have seen this movie:
https://geekendgladiators.com/2017/03/06/what-was-that-western-movie-in-
logan/
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
: should i wait for another week so most others already seen it?
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 3
i think the main story line is pretty straight forth, not much twist at all.
when i started this post, i was curious about one small detail.
spoiler alert.
i will get to next reply.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Spoiler:
: The plot is very easy to understand if you have seen this movie:
: https://geekendgladiators.com/2017/03/06/what-was-that-western-movie-in-
: logan/
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 4 *** spoiler alert ***
so wolf is slowly dying, of course.
but when he was at the small town and was tend to by a doctor.
that doctor told him, something inside him is killing him.
and he replied, he know what it is.
i am curious what is killing him.
later on, that evil doctor revealed that his company was putting anti-mutant
stuff into like water, food, etc. the result is human being are now immune
to x-gene.
that is one possibility that this thing is killing wolf.
but... caliban is taking the same food, he is not dying. but most important,
that statement is AFTER the doctor's office. so wolf does not know about
the anti-mutant thing yet.
the other possibility, is during the westchester incident, he survived, but
that actually leave a bad houyizheng to him. mabye certain part of his brain
was damaged bad enough that it cannot grow back?
but then xavier keep telling him logan you still have time. that makes me
feel it's not due to xavier.
what do you all think? |
a****3
发帖数: 11741 | 5 It's called "adamantium" a fictional metal alloy in Marvel
Comics. This adamantium in Logan's body was killing him.
：*** spoiler alert ***
：so wolf is slowly dying, of course.
：but when he was at the small town and was tend to by a doctor.
：that doctor told him, something inside him is killing him.
：and he replied, he know what it is.
：i am curious what is killing him.
：later on, that evil doctor revealed that his company was putting anti-
mutant stuff into like water, food, etc. the result is human being are now
immune to x-gene.
：that is one possibility that this thing is killing wolf.
：but... caliban is taking the same food, he is not dying. but most
important, that statement is AFTER the doctor's office. so wolf does not
know about
：the anti-mutant thing yet.
：..........
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
: *** spoiler alert ***
: so wolf is slowly dying, of course.
: but when he was at the small town and was tend to by a doctor.
: that doctor told him, something inside him is killing him.
: and he replied, he know what it is.
: i am curious what is killing him.
: later on, that evil doctor revealed that his company was putting anti-mutant
: stuff into like water, food, etc. the result is human being are now immune
: to x-gene.
: that is one possibility that this thing is killing wolf.
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 6
i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is actually
poinsonous to wolf?
these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing i don't
like...
because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
between the CU and the comics.
【在 a****3 的大作中提到】
: It's called "adamantium" a fictional metal alloy in Marvel
: Comics. This adamantium in Logan's body was killing him.
:
: ：*** spoiler alert ***
: ：so wolf is slowly dying, of course.
: ：but when he was at the small town and was tend to by a doctor.
: ：that doctor told him, something inside him is killing him.
: ：and he replied, he know what it is.
: ：i am curious what is killing him.
: ：later on, that evil doctor revealed that his company was putting anti-
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a****3
发帖数: 11741 | 7 I don't remember any of the x-men movie mentioned it till this one. The
adamantium fused to Logan's bone started to poison him and impend his
healing factor due to his body grew weaker.
They may make another movie to show what caused mutants extinction.
：i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is
actually
：poinsonous to wolf?
：these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing
i don't
：like...
：because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
：between the CU and the comics.
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
:
: i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is actually
: poinsonous to wolf?
: these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing i don't
: like...
: because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
: between the CU and the comics.
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a****3
发帖数: 11741 | 8 I also don't remember that Charles would lose his control and started
having deadly seizures that kills mutants. I was really surprised. I also
wonder whereabout Eric.
：i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is
actually
：poinsonous to wolf?
：these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing
i don't
：like...
：because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
：between the CU and the comics.
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
:
: i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is actually
: poinsonous to wolf?
: these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing i don't
: like...
: because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
: between the CU and the comics.
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c******e
发帖数: 40 | 9 最后电影里反派教授和logan 说的都很清楚啊 最后那段对话你没有注意听？
1 是用转基因食物抑制了新x-gene 的出现 这样最近几十年来没有新的mutant 诞生。
这样他们可以自己弄自己的mutant 作为武器。
2 是老狼身上的钢骨和爪子其实对人都是有毒性的。但是原来老狼有再生因子，所以就
于不停愈合的状态。经过这么多年以后愈合因子也被消耗变弱 所以就越来越不能抵抗A
钢毒性，表现就是变老和伤疤不能愈合。
3 最后那个绿色药水虽然可以短时间加强愈合能力，但是大剂量使用会有更强的副作用。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
:
: i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is actually
: poinsonous to wolf?
: these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing i don't
: like...
: because there are so many different stories / properties that has conflict
: between the CU and the comics.
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 10
抗A
用。
i did not catch #2.
did the doctor say that? or wolf say it himself?
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: 最后电影里反派教授和logan 说的都很清楚啊 最后那段对话你没有注意听？
: 1 是用转基因食物抑制了新x-gene 的出现 这样最近几十年来没有新的mutant 诞生。
: 这样他们可以自己弄自己的mutant 作为武器。
: 2 是老狼身上的钢骨和爪子其实对人都是有毒性的。但是原来老狼有再生因子，所以就
: 于不停愈合的状态。经过这么多年以后愈合因子也被消耗变弱 所以就越来越不能抵抗A
: 钢毒性，表现就是变老和伤疤不能愈合。
: 3 最后那个绿色药水虽然可以短时间加强愈合能力，但是大剂量使用会有更强的副作用。
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c******e
发帖数: 40 | 11 是在最后那个教授 Zander Rice和logan 的对话 ，等于是解释一通背景给观众。logan
自己当然早就有感觉了。
Rice 他爸就是给logan 注射A钢塑形爪子的人。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 抗A
: 用。
: i did not catch #2.
: did the doctor say that? or wolf say it himself?
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 12
lack of budget maybe?
remember what reynal said in deadpool? sounds like the studio can only
afford 2 x-men.
LOL....
【在 a****3 的大作中提到】
: I also don't remember that Charles would lose his control and started
: having deadly seizures that kills mutants. I was really surprised. I also
: wonder whereabout Eric.
:
: ：i don't remember any of the x movies states that adamantium is
: actually
: ：poinsonous to wolf?
: ：these kind of "you should already know that from the comics" thing
: i don't
: ：like...
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 13
logan
i only catched the part about the food and drink "cure".
need to listen to it again after it's available on exodus.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: 是在最后那个教授 Zander Rice和logan 的对话 ，等于是解释一通背景给观众。logan
: 自己当然早就有感觉了。
: Rice 他爸就是给logan 注射A钢塑形爪子的人。
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 14 这电影最大的BUG就是给小女孩换了金属骨架
换了金属骨架后小女孩怎么长大？
还是漫画版合理些，漫画版里X-23已经是成人不是小女孩
还有就是那子弹，应该和金属骨架是同一种金属
以前logan头部中过一枪，只是失忆了没有死
为啥X-24打了一枪就死了，只能说X-24是不完全品............
抗A
用。
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: 是在最后那个教授 Zander Rice和logan 的对话 ，等于是解释一通背景给观众。logan
: 自己当然早就有感觉了。
: Rice 他爸就是给logan 注射A钢塑形爪子的人。
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a****3
发帖数: 11741 | 15 我分析是金属合金是附着或渗透进骨头里的，小女孩儿长大骨架也跟着长，小女孩儿的
身体能产生这种合金，就成了随长随渗透。
好像x-24也算是次品，被高浓度的合金弹的毒素一下子杀死了。
：这电影最大的BUG就是给小女孩换了金属骨架
：换了金属骨架后小女孩怎么长大？
：还是漫画版合理些，漫画版里X-23已经是成人不是小女孩
：还有就是那子弹，应该和金属骨架是同一种金属
：以前logan头部中过一枪，只是失忆了没有死
：为啥X-24打了一枪就死了，只能说X-24是不完全品............
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 这电影最大的BUG就是给小女孩换了金属骨架
: 换了金属骨架后小女孩怎么长大？
: 还是漫画版合理些，漫画版里X-23已经是成人不是小女孩
: 还有就是那子弹，应该和金属骨架是同一种金属
: 以前logan头部中过一枪，只是失忆了没有死
: 为啥X-24打了一枪就死了，只能说X-24是不完全品............
:
: 抗A
: 用。
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 16
that's not too hard to understand though.
when the bullet make the impact, the bullet head can penetrate/break the
skull because of the same metal.
then it's the black powder explosion or the force of impact that can blew up
the brain liquid.
if you recall back in the farm house. his wound does not heal like wolf. the
doctor has to inject him with the green stuff to get his eye to heal back.
so my guess is maybe he did not get the same natural healing factor? has to
rely on the green stuff?
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 这电影最大的BUG就是给小女孩换了金属骨架
: 换了金属骨架后小女孩怎么长大？
: 还是漫画版合理些，漫画版里X-23已经是成人不是小女孩
: 还有就是那子弹，应该和金属骨架是同一种金属
: 以前logan头部中过一枪，只是失忆了没有死
: 为啥X-24打了一枪就死了，只能说X-24是不完全品............
:
: 抗A
: 用。
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f*******e
发帖数: 5277 | 17 农场那块X-24自愈速度慢给了个解释，Rice说"you are a new born in any sense"，
那时候的X-24应该是刚造出来的，能力还没完全成长好，但靠绿水能增强。
up
the
.
to
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
:
: that's not too hard to understand though.
: when the bullet make the impact, the bullet head can penetrate/break the
: skull because of the same metal.
: then it's the black powder explosion or the force of impact that can blew up
: the brain liquid.
: if you recall back in the farm house. his wound does not heal like wolf. the
: doctor has to inject him with the green stuff to get his eye to heal back.
: so my guess is maybe he did not get the same natural healing factor? has to
: rely on the green stuff?
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c******e
发帖数: 40 | 18 编剧没那么傻。
X-23 就没有装全身金属骨架 只不过装了手刀和脚刀。
X-24 的脸可以被打爆，说明可能X-24也没有A金头骨部分。
【在 D***3 的大作中提到】
: 这电影最大的BUG就是给小女孩换了金属骨架
: 换了金属骨架后小女孩怎么长大？
: 还是漫画版合理些，漫画版里X-23已经是成人不是小女孩
: 还有就是那子弹，应该和金属骨架是同一种金属
: 以前logan头部中过一枪，只是失忆了没有死
: 为啥X-24打了一枪就死了，只能说X-24是不完全品............
:
: 抗A
: 用。
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D***3
发帖数: 12712 | 19 X-24如果没有装金属骨架
logan 应该可以一拳将其打爆头
割身体像切牛肉那么容易吧..........
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: 编剧没那么傻。
: X-23 就没有装全身金属骨架 只不过装了手刀和脚刀。
: X-24 的脸可以被打爆，说明可能X-24也没有A金头骨部分。
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m********n
发帖数: 3812 | 20 24 should also has A skeletons, otherwise no need for special bullet, the
Farmer could already kill him with the shot gun.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: 编剧没那么傻。
: X-23 就没有装全身金属骨架 只不过装了手刀和脚刀。
: X-24 的脸可以被打爆，说明可能X-24也没有A金头骨部分。
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