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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:12:30 2012, 美东) 提到:
大家好，我遇到了一个古怪的事情，不知道我这样做是否合法？请教大家的意见
事情是这样的，我在craigslist上卖二手的护肤品，因为就一百块钱，我是要求现金交
易的。有个人要买，最开始的时候，她说现在在加州，马上搬到我的城市来，她现在可
以给我a certified check。并付我额外的$20，目的是要我从craigslist上把我发的帖
子撤了并保证我的东西一定要给她留着，她会让她的mover来取东西并给我支票。我觉
着也可以接受就同意了。
今天，她跟我说，她的秘书已经把Cashier check 寄出来了，但是是和她以前拖欠的搬
家费开在一张支票上，一共$1985,因为mover说如果不一次付清就不能上门pickup。她
要我收到这个支票以后把卖东西的钱取出来以后，用西联汇款把剩下的钱给她的mover
，这样她的mover就可以pickup我卖的东西给她。
我家LD说有点古怪，怕是洗钱的。
我想问问大家，我拿到支票取出我应得的钱以后，用西联汇款归还剩下的钱，这样操作
合法吗？会有洗钱的嫌疑吗？
先谢谢了！
她的原话如下：
Good day and how is your day ?I just received the confirmation from my
Secretary that the payment has been issued out and was mailed by
theUnited Parcel Service. It will be delivered to your Address 2 days
from now according to the courier, and it was my secretary who posted
the payment,but to my greatest surprise,She included the moving fee
with your payment, instead of the actual amount of the purchase, she
made out the Cashier check for $1,985 .This was due to the accumulated
unpaid transactions undertaken by the mover in the past weeks and they
said they can't come and pick this up if I do not pay them all
together .So once you have the Payment,i want you to cash it and
deduct the money for the purchase.The remaining funds should please be
sent to my mover via Western union the same day you do receive the
payment so that my mover can make the trip over for the pickup at
once.You will also have to deduct an additional $20 to offset the cost
of your run around expenses.**I will need your immediate response via
email assuring me that i can trust you to handle this with care and
have the remaining funds returned appropriately. I am hearing impaired
and will hope that your intentions remains noble through out the
duration of this transaction**
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spm (spm2) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:13:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
骗子，不用理她
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hollywoo (hollywoo) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:13:38 2012, 美东) 提到:
不是你合法与否的问题
这人是要骗你的钱。。。
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antena (我爱下雨) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:14:12 2012, 美东) 提到:
又一个月经贴？
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sapphirewing (Audrey的树) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:14:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
google一下尼日利亚骗局
骗子一个
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sapphirewing (Audrey的树) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:14:58 2012, 美东) 提到:
craigslist回信超过三行的 直接扔trash
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hollywoo (hollywoo) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:15:04 2012, 美东) 提到:
这种交易写这么长邮件的，基本都是骗子。。。
先给你支票，要你寄回一部分钱的，也都是骗子。。。
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babymonkey (皮皮) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:15:04 2012, 美东) 提到:
不是合法不合法的问题....对方是骗子，等你用西联汇完钱后，你会发现对方的支票是
空头的...老把戏了，怎么还上当？？
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Fulton (富尔顿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:15:44 2012, 美东) 提到:
典型的骗子
mover
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hollywoo (hollywoo) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:16:00 2012, 美东) 提到:
哈哈，大家都火眼金睛啊
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cqwood (遥远海边) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:16:01 2012, 美东) 提到:
经典骗局。。。
mover
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cqwood (遥远海边) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:18:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
哈哈，混这个版的还能上这当
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kalala (koko) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:24:48 2012, 美东) 提到:
让他寄好了。 伪造Cashier check 的成本有多高？ 加上邮寄费，让他出点血。
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goback211 (天国的兔子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:25:52 2012, 美东) 提到:
骗子
mover
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lycsky (flying) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:49:05 2012, 美东) 提到:
骗子无疑
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Yuanfei (小飞) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:53:21 2012, 美东) 提到:
骗子也得创新下啊，
时代在进步，社会在发展，骗子也整点新的啊
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:45:39 2012, 美东) 提到:
哇，大家众口一致啊！
幸好来这里问了大家。我是第一次在craigslist上卖东西，而且是帮一个回国的朋友处
理留下来的东西。幸好！幸好！不然都不知道怎么和朋友交待了。
谢谢大家的热心回帖！
还有个问题想请教一下，接下来怎么办啊？她之前问我要我的姓名、地址、电话的时候
，我已经给她了（实在是没有经验啊！），不会有什么后续的问题吧？
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vsfan (小饭) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:01:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
汗。。。真有人信的
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sapphirewing (Audrey的树) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:02:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
不理会就好了
她应该也没时间捣鼓你的identity
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weiyu1 (我是一条鱼) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:41:43 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个都还有人不知道啊？
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latexcat (什么是MT？) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:29:37 2012, 美东) 提到:
等对方寄出支票给你后
你就告诉他，找不到兑换支票的地方
让对方西联汇款给你
慢慢玩
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kalala (koko) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:36:34 2012, 美东) 提到:
就说支票不小心弄丢了, 再用快件寄一张. 这样慢慢玩.
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pkirides (Pete) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:36:54 2012, 美东) 提到:
Totally agree!
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goldenstyx (Golden) 于 (Thu Mar 22 18:56:35 2012, 美东) 提到:
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to you and your Nigerian son.
Mr. Spammer, you swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of
filth. As they say in Texas. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot
with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away.
I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm
deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a
weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion,
a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly
with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world.
An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the
puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in
recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as
you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of
you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile,
worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this
earth. And did I mention you smell?
Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to
impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will
still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more
rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its
beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly
briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your
ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own
trite, foolish beliefs.
You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty
and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus.
Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are
unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that
reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements
of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you
hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more
weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle,
waiting for the bite of the snake? You are a waste of flesh. You have no
rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a
leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and
senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling
meatslapper.
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient
in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are
dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all
unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You
grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish
foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated
tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey
poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing
gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted
clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate,
noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise
everything about you, and I wish you would go away. I cannot believe how
incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard
stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a
whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid.
Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have
collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity
stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in
one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your
writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this
stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang
of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else
as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on.
This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you my not hear from me
again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant
questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the
rest of this drivel. Duh.
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. Maybe later in life,
after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more
success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people
take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we
sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find
these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I
would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of
like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the
emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on
you.
P.S.
You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly,
deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent,
opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted,
racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic,
insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous,
byzantine,conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic,
spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb,
evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative,
paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic,
diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim,
crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim,
unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive,
mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive,
socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.
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gangwei (刚哥) 于 (Thu Mar 22 19:17:48 2012, 美东) 提到:
纯骗子啊这是
mm你太好骗了 这都信了
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 20:14:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
真的是没有经验。天天就在实验室做实验，没有经历过这些。
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 20:16:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
呵呵，我家LD也这么想来着。
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Thu Mar 22 20:23:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
谢谢大家的回复，吃一见长一智，我们以后就知道了。
希望遇到相同情况的同胞看到这个帖子以后，也能有所警示。
再次谢谢热心人！
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wendylee (wendy) 于 (Thu Mar 22 20:31:42 2012, 美东) 提到:
有Secretary的还上craiglist买2手护肤品。。。
mover
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kalala (koko) 于 (Thu Mar 22 20:55:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
counterfeit cashier's check scam:
Here's how the main "counterfeit cashier's check" scheme has worked: You are
selling something over the Internet (used car, motorcycle, etc.) You
receive an e-mail offer, with the buyer promising to pay by bank cashier's
check. The check arrives, but it is made out for several thousand dollars
more than expected - and the buyer asks you to send the difference back to
them. Your bank accepts the check and credits you with the money, so you
wire the "extra" money back to the buyer. But then the cashier's check turns
out to be counterfeit -- phony. And YOU LOSE THE MONEY you wired - it's
stolen and untraceable.
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albertchang (albertchang) 于 (Thu Mar 22 23:23:10 2012, 美东) 提到:
Is it fun to do experiment in lab?
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zachkaiser (Zach) 于 (Thu Mar 22 23:47:30 2012, 美东) 提到:
一直知道这是骗局，求大神们给讲讲为什么cashier check伪造银行看不出来？还是说
支票是真的但是后来又撤掉了钱？
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comchem (累啊) 于 (Fri Mar 23 11:44:32 2012, 美东) 提到:
你存支票不是马上就到你账户上的
骗子就是利用这个时间差
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akasha (micha) 于 (Mon Mar 26 15:13:52 2012, 美东) 提到:
可以直接换现金么？
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aqualight (水绿之光|被白雪覆盖那些青翠) 于 (Mon Mar 26 18:24:10 2012, 美东) 提到:
摆明了骗钱的
mover
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qadams (仿盛) 于 (Mon Mar 26 18:36:37 2012, 美东) 提到:
P话这么多的人 一看就是骗子嘛
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Mon Mar 26 21:50:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
来向大家汇报一下最新情况
今天真的收到了支票，是两张postal money order,每张是$950.25。
我从没用过money order， 去网上google了一下，说这个就相当于是cash了，与支票不
同，不能撤资的，除非是假的。
那我就疑惑了，骗子难道真的付过钱了？
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tangli411 (糖炒栗子) 于 (Mon Mar 26 21:56:21 2012, 美东) 提到:
明白了，应该这个money order就是假的！
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kermit (kk) 于 (Mon Mar 26 21:57:00 2012, 美东) 提到:
XD，这个是伪造的。。。。。
不信你去试一试？
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flycolor (flycolor) 于 (Wed Mar 28 05:15:35 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个一定要回一下，以后骂人有模板了，哇哈哈哈哈
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tudoutudou (tudoutudou) 于 (Wed Mar 28 09:08:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
哎, 我就好奇想知道, 如果我把这些骗子的支票存了,然后再不理他了会怎样?
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fuchl (法考) 于 (Wed Mar 28 09:09:16 2012, 美东) 提到:
他们可以把钱reverse的...
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ashdown ((^:^)) 于 (Wed Mar 28 09:11:19 2012, 美东) 提到:
也没什么事，就是那支票是假的，你被银行罚几十块钱21
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busby (busby) 于 (Wed Mar 28 09:11:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
本来就是假的，reverse什么，被收跳票费
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Hawaii8 (夏威夷) 于 (Wed Mar 28 21:41:26 2012, 美东) 提到:
Question: what will happen?
Cash it, mail out money, bank get money back from your bank account once
they figured it out it is a fake cashier check, loss money
or
Bank will never let you cash out money, then will not loss money at least.
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steve888 (Steve曾经曰过) 于 (Wed Mar 28 22:00:24 2012, 美东) 提到:
有一点，千万不要去存。银行发现假的，他们可能不知道是你伪造的，还是别人伪造的
，如果他们怀疑你，事情会非常麻烦。
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datui (成长中的拖拉机大腿) 于 (Wed Mar 28 22:19:31 2012, 美东) 提到:
保存这个
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frogw (S青蛙王子) 于 (Thu Mar 29 11:36:43 2012, 美东) 提到:
mark template
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usmint (mint) 于 (Thu Mar 29 15:16:11 2012, 美东) 提到:
你算好的了，知道过来问一问。
要不然近2000刀就没啦。
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