n****e
发帖数: 1403 | 1 由于准备不足，加之斯大林把大部分的将军都肃反了，前线指挥一片混乱。
据说：由于准备严重不足，苏联红军冲锋的时候，经常是三、四个人拿一杆枪，其他人
就这么吃手空拳往前跑，那枪的被打死了，其他人才能捡起来，继续冲。就这么苏联参
战前期据说有一大半红军都是军事上瞎指挥死的。结果他妈老猫子二战还是打赢了。
现在沉个一两艘船算个屁。 |
I****e
发帖数: 7742 | 2 不要被历史演义骗了
【在 n****e 的大作中提到】
: 由于准备不足，加之斯大林把大部分的将军都肃反了，前线指挥一片混乱。
: 据说：由于准备严重不足，苏联红军冲锋的时候，经常是三、四个人拿一杆枪，其他人
: 就这么吃手空拳往前跑，那枪的被打死了，其他人才能捡起来，继续冲。就这么苏联参
: 战前期据说有一大半红军都是军事上瞎指挥死的。结果他妈老猫子二战还是打赢了。
: 现在沉个一两艘船算个屁。
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K*********n
发帖数: 1 | |
s***a
发帖数: 861 | 4 赫鲁晓夫说的：“I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's
views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with
Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and
Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and
repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He
stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not
have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could
not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war
. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin
left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several
times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual
circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on
the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation,
going over international questions of the past and present, and when we
would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that
is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement
with him, and today I am even more so.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease |
n****e
发帖数: 1403 | 5 虽然和陆绍夫说的这个完全可能。 人是战场上的决定因素这条还是真理。
像遇到烂泥扶不上墙的货，比如阿富汗前政府，什么法案也摸用
: 赫鲁晓夫说的：“I would like to express my candid opinion
about Stalin
's
: views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have
coped
with
: Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United
States
and
: Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin
made
and
: repeated several times when we were "discussing freely"
; among
ourselves. He
: stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we
would
not
: have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one
, we
could
: not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have
lost
the war
: . No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't
think
Stalin
: left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here
that
several
【在 s***a 的大作中提到】
: 赫鲁晓夫说的：“I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's
: views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with
: Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and
: Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and
: repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He
: stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not
: have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could
: not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war
: . No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin
: left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several
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F**0
发帖数: 5004 | |
R*****i
发帖数: 2126 | 7 霉帝为嘛要军援苏联？？？百思不得骑姐。让德国灭了苏联不香嘛？
: 没算上美国军援是吧
【在 F**0 的大作中提到】
: 没算上美国军援是吧
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i**********2
发帖数: 1114 | 8 中国志愿军也是如此
【在 n****e 的大作中提到】
: 由于准备不足，加之斯大林把大部分的将军都肃反了，前线指挥一片混乱。
: 据说：由于准备严重不足，苏联红军冲锋的时候，经常是三、四个人拿一杆枪，其他人
: 就这么吃手空拳往前跑，那枪的被打死了，其他人才能捡起来，继续冲。就这么苏联参
: 战前期据说有一大半红军都是军事上瞎指挥死的。结果他妈老猫子二战还是打赢了。
: 现在沉个一两艘船算个屁。
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b*w
发帖数: 14917 | 9 战胜国毛子比战败国德国死人还多吧？而且德国是被几大流氓加小弟轮殴。。。。 |
c*****9
发帖数: 1 | 10 不知道那時候是美國民主黨左逼執政？
美國和蘇聯建交都是在民主黨左逼羅斯福當選以後的事了，接著雙方才有大規模貿易往
來，才有蘇聯工業大發展。沒有美國左逼就沒有蘇聯的生存，也沒有土鱉的世界第二經
濟體。腦子正常的共和黨里根上台，改變策略，不跟蘇聯和平共處，要決輸贏了，結果
大家都看到了
【在 R*****i 的大作中提到】
: 霉帝为嘛要军援苏联？？？百思不得骑姐。让德国灭了苏联不香嘛？
:
:
: 没算上美国军援是吧
:
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n****e
发帖数: 1403 | 11 二战死亡人数最多的八个国家
一、 苏联（死亡人数2800多万）
二 、中国（死亡人数1800多万）
三、 德国（死亡人数800多万）
四 、日本（死亡人数200多万）
五、 英国（死亡人数60多万）
六 、美国（死亡人数38多万）
七、 法国（死亡人数30多万）
八 、意大利（死亡人数20多万）
感脚安理会常任理事国投票应该加权二战死亡人数，苏联一票顶米蒂约70票。
: 战胜国毛子比战败国德国死人还多吧？而且德国是被几大流氓加小弟轮殴。。。。
【在 b*w 的大作中提到】
: 战胜国毛子比战败国德国死人还多吧？而且德国是被几大流氓加小弟轮殴。。。。
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G**********1
发帖数: 1 | 12 毛子什么都怕就是不怕死人吧
【在 b*w 的大作中提到】
: 战胜国毛子比战败国德国死人还多吧？而且德国是被几大流氓加小弟轮殴。。。。
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r*****t
发帖数: 4793 | |
