x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 1 资本主义制度的失败？
在 2021。。。 almost half (49%) of Russian respondents would prefer the
Soviet political system, according to a study published in September by the
independent Levada Center. The survey, which included 1,603 adult
respondents across 50 regions of Russia, said it was a record figure of
Soviet support for this century.
Surprisingly, there are no contrasting attitudes to the Soviet era across
generations, our research from the Carnegie Moscow Center and Levada has
found. The older cohorts are nostalgic for the USSR; the younger ones have
developed an image of the Soviet Union as a fairytale country, a retro-
utopia where everyone is equal, everyone is free, and a stern-but-just
father figure rules.
People are dreaming of a fairer society, and Russians have no other models
than the Soviet Union. The imaginary USSR still helps Putin in many ways --
even when his regime is losing popularity to the Soviet system. |
s*****r
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | |
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 4 扯淡，为啥苏共得票 1%， 这跟喜欢大唐一样，就是个情怀，没人真回去！ |
G****1
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P**T
发帖数: 2274 | 6 后普京时代就是共产党回归
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 其实这种情绪是受中国政制影响的结果
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p******4
发帖数: 1 | 7 花了30年时间才明白一个道理， 美国人是大忽悠，美国人强力推销给他们的是狗屎，
是毒药。他们以前的领导人是有为国为民的情怀的。在以前的框架下， 人民拥有更基
础更普及的平等和尊严，15个加盟共和国的强大存在， 给人民带来了安全和稳定。
the
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 资本主义制度的失败？
: 在 2021。。。 almost half (49%) of Russian respondents would prefer the
: Soviet political system, according to a study published in September by the
: independent Levada Center. The survey, which included 1,603 adult
: respondents across 50 regions of Russia, said it was a record figure of
: Soviet support for this century.
: Surprisingly, there are no contrasting attitudes to the Soviet era across
: generations, our research from the Carnegie Moscow Center and Levada has
: found. The older cohorts are nostalgic for the USSR; the younger ones have
: developed an image of the Soviet Union as a fairytale country, a retro-
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c*****h
发帖数: 1 | 8 新宠你确实是文革余孽，妈的苏联这种不顾民生的暴政不亡没天理。你搞这个跟美帝这
边的非黑即白有个毛区别。我虽然反感美帝的虚伪和霸凌，但是一个政权不顾民生，绝
对是要被推翻的。文革要再搞几年，中国共产党的政权也得完蛋。
the
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 资本主义制度的失败？
: 在 2021。。。 almost half (49%) of Russian respondents would prefer the
: Soviet political system, according to a study published in September by the
: independent Levada Center. The survey, which included 1,603 adult
: respondents across 50 regions of Russia, said it was a record figure of
: Soviet support for this century.
: Surprisingly, there are no contrasting attitudes to the Soviet era across
: generations, our research from the Carnegie Moscow Center and Levada has
: found. The older cohorts are nostalgic for the USSR; the younger ones have
: developed an image of the Soviet Union as a fairytale country, a retro-
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 9 你不懂
没有文革 哪有今天的中国？
【在 c*****h 的大作中提到】
: 新宠你确实是文革余孽，妈的苏联这种不顾民生的暴政不亡没天理。你搞这个跟美帝这
: 边的非黑即白有个毛区别。我虽然反感美帝的虚伪和霸凌，但是一个政权不顾民生，绝
: 对是要被推翻的。文革要再搞几年，中国共产党的政权也得完蛋。
:
: the
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 10 想想苏联崩溃时几千万人自杀或都成了神经病 更加可怕
the |
c***c
发帖数: 21374 | 11 瞎扯淡，看看苏共的得票就知道了。
俄罗斯人普遍情况是，如果在不要苏联时代的糟粕的前提下，可以恢复苏联时代的牛哄
哄的感觉，那自然好。但是如果这种牛哄哄的感觉前提必须是苏联时代的糟粕，他们宁
愿不要牛哄哄。 |
w******a
发帖数: 64 | 12 因为制度已经变了
即使俄共赢得大选，也不能恢复苏联计划经济
苏联完蛋是因为没有竞争力。过度讨好老百姓。国家不堪重负
确实这是活该。刁民占了国家便宜不知感恩。精英不愿意当冤大头伺候刁民所以苏联完
蛋了。
比如像耗子，王利民这种占了共产党便宜的贫农，觉得一切都是理所应当，你让他们为
国无私奉献，门都没有。所以共产党就是一个邪教，忽悠人为国家无私奉献，最后大家
都发现这是吃力不讨好的事情。于是就散伙了
和基督教会一样，忽悠大家无私奉献，后来教育一普及，大家一哄而散，都忙着去捞钱
了，剩下的没本事的刁民之后自己去喝西北风了，没人管
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 扯淡，为啥苏共得票 1%， 这跟喜欢大唐一样，就是个情怀，没人真回去！
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 13 随着这种民意的越来越强烈 越来越普遍 俄国共产党重新上台不是梦
【在 c***c 的大作中提到】
: 瞎扯淡，看看苏共的得票就知道了。
: 俄罗斯人普遍情况是，如果在不要苏联时代的糟粕的前提下，可以恢复苏联时代的牛哄
: 哄的感觉，那自然好。但是如果这种牛哄哄的感觉前提必须是苏联时代的糟粕，他们宁
: 愿不要牛哄哄。
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c***c
发帖数: 21374 | 14 苏联真是讨好老百姓呀，面包随便买，又好又便宜
【在 w******a 的大作中提到】
: 因为制度已经变了
: 即使俄共赢得大选，也不能恢复苏联计划经济
: 苏联完蛋是因为没有竞争力。过度讨好老百姓。国家不堪重负
: 确实这是活该。刁民占了国家便宜不知感恩。精英不愿意当冤大头伺候刁民所以苏联完
: 蛋了。
: 比如像耗子，王利民这种占了共产党便宜的贫农，觉得一切都是理所应当，你让他们为
: 国无私奉献，门都没有。所以共产党就是一个邪教，忽悠人为国家无私奉献，最后大家
: 都发现这是吃力不讨好的事情。于是就散伙了
: 和基督教会一样，忽悠大家无私奉献，后来教育一普及，大家一哄而散，都忙着去捞钱
: 了，剩下的没本事的刁民之后自己去喝西北风了，没人管
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 15 戈尔巴乔夫过度讨好老百姓搞自由化 是崩溃的真正原因
有些刁民就是要镇压 邓小平用坦克压过去是对的
【在 w******a 的大作中提到】
: 因为制度已经变了
: 即使俄共赢得大选，也不能恢复苏联计划经济
: 苏联完蛋是因为没有竞争力。过度讨好老百姓。国家不堪重负
: 确实这是活该。刁民占了国家便宜不知感恩。精英不愿意当冤大头伺候刁民所以苏联完
: 蛋了。
: 比如像耗子，王利民这种占了共产党便宜的贫农，觉得一切都是理所应当，你让他们为
: 国无私奉献，门都没有。所以共产党就是一个邪教，忽悠人为国家无私奉献，最后大家
: 都发现这是吃力不讨好的事情。于是就散伙了
: 和基督教会一样，忽悠大家无私奉献，后来教育一普及，大家一哄而散，都忙着去捞钱
: 了，剩下的没本事的刁民之后自己去喝西北风了，没人管
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w***u
发帖数: 17713 | 16 你让他们选俄共去啊。就像中国人各个吹汉武帝，你让他们耗三代积蓄打匈奴，然后国
力不继，两三百年后，北方少数民族又牛回来了，他们会想别的办法。回忆的是帝国的
荣光，不是帝国下的饥饿。 |
c***c
发帖数: 21374 | 17 汉族人普遍这个性格。我请客，你买单；吃亏你去，享福我来。大部分做着朝为田舍郎
，暮登天子堂的梦，然后要按照想象中自己明天的身份（登天子堂），去考虑今天自己
的问题（田舍郎）。
【在 w***u 的大作中提到】
: 你让他们选俄共去啊。就像中国人各个吹汉武帝，你让他们耗三代积蓄打匈奴，然后国
: 力不继，两三百年后，北方少数民族又牛回来了，他们会想别的办法。回忆的是帝国的
: 荣光，不是帝国下的饥饿。
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d***u
发帖数: 5 | 18 天下左叉是一家
怀念苏共的是各种fuck news左叉，所以作假投票，假调查是必然
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 扯淡，为啥苏共得票 1%， 这跟喜欢大唐一样，就是个情怀，没人真回去！
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p***r
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s****a
发帖数: 794 | 20 根本不在于多少俄国人怀念苏联，全怀念苏联有什么用？那些加盟共和国有人怀念苏联
吗？塔塔人会怀念被从克里米亚迁到鸟不拉屎的地方？ |
N**********d
发帖数: 2466 | |
R******6
发帖数: 609 | |
b*********5
发帖数: 591 | 23 斯拉夫人还是太实诚，被昂萨人忽悠了
the
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 资本主义制度的失败？
: 在 2021。。。 almost half (49%) of Russian respondents would prefer the
: Soviet political system, according to a study published in September by the
: independent Levada Center. The survey, which included 1,603 adult
: respondents across 50 regions of Russia, said it was a record figure of
: Soviet support for this century.
: Surprisingly, there are no contrasting attitudes to the Soviet era across
: generations, our research from the Carnegie Moscow Center and Levada has
: found. The older cohorts are nostalgic for the USSR; the younger ones have
: developed an image of the Soviet Union as a fairytale country, a retro-
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b*3
发帖数: 1 | 24 What the writer fails to make clear is that Gorbachev, along with the
Presidents of Ukraine and Belarus, dissolved the USSR in spite of the
expressed - via polls etc - wishes of the Russian people, who even then did
NOT want Communist Central Control of the economy dissolved. So, thats' no 1.
But also he ushered in the Time of the Americans and the Oligarchs. As
President Putin has just announced, the place was riddled with CIA agents
walking the Corridors of Power, there were thousands - literally - of
American Civil Servants writing Russian Laws, Russia became a hunting ground
for psychopathic Oligarchs who bought up then destroyed flourishing USSR /
Russian industries, many so innovative that Westerners used to go on trips
to learn something. For example, one "state of the art" industry using very
advanced electronics was dismantled and turned into a plant -- for packaging
cigarettes. Another equally excellent facility with advanced technology was
closed down and turned into a plant for assembling Chinese made bicycles.
In other words, the desire of American ideologues to destroy Russia was
achieved - for a while. There were plans afoot to "Balkanise" Russia, that
is divide her into many small, insignificant new little "nations" thus
making sure she could never rise again.
The people starved; there were women in their 80's out in the cold trying to
sell a few bags of sunflower seeds etc. The lifespan dropped significantly.
Deaths over births escalated, murder was not uncommon. Russia was not so
much "circling the drain" as half way down it.
These days, with a resurrected Russia steaming ahead, her innovative kids
given scholastic boosts, her people pulling out of poverty; [there are still
too many as Putin has said, but it's a priority now to get them out too] -
it's hard for people to realise what Russia sunk too and the utter misery
life was.
And that started with Gorbachev - opening the door to the Yanks, not getting
written guarantees and then leaving Russia to her fate.
And you wonder why he's the most hated !!!! |
m***n
发帖数: 12188 | 25 要看年轻人
全是中老年人怀念
年轻人向往美国
好比台湾
中老年人自认中国人，蔡总统教育的年轻人否 |
b*3
发帖数: 1 | 26 The West never understand that most Russian loved the Soviet Union they
wanted some more freedom not destroyed their country which Gorbachev did!
【在 P**T 的大作中提到】
: 后普京时代就是共产党回归
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b*3
发帖数: 1 | 27 Gorbachev's destruction of USSR turned U.S. into only superpower.
And for the next 30 years, U.S. went on a global rampage across the world,
killing, destroying, bombing, sanctioning, staging coups with total impunity.
【在 c***c 的大作中提到】
: 瞎扯淡，看看苏共的得票就知道了。
: 俄罗斯人普遍情况是，如果在不要苏联时代的糟粕的前提下，可以恢复苏联时代的牛哄
: 哄的感觉，那自然好。但是如果这种牛哄哄的感觉前提必须是苏联时代的糟粕，他们宁
: 愿不要牛哄哄。
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m*********9
发帖数: 56 | 28 主要是给美国左臂看的，愚弄美国人，以为左臂的政策受苏联人民欢迎。
像楼上说的，要是俄国人喜欢苏联，那就多投共产党的票
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 资本主义制度的失败？
: 在 2021。。。 almost half (49%) of Russian respondents would prefer the
: Soviet political system, according to a study published in September by the
: independent Levada Center. The survey, which included 1,603 adult
: respondents across 50 regions of Russia, said it was a record figure of
: Soviet support for this century.
: Surprisingly, there are no contrasting attitudes to the Soviet era across
: generations, our research from the Carnegie Moscow Center and Levada has
: found. The older cohorts are nostalgic for the USSR; the younger ones have
: developed an image of the Soviet Union as a fairytale country, a retro-
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G*********e
发帖数: 2091 | 29 邓小平用坦克镇压的就是你们文革余孽啊。民运分子都被邓小平放走到美国了。你怎么
这么糊涂？邓小平本来要判江青死刑，后来因为反对的声音太大，才判死缓，难道你不
知道吗？
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 戈尔巴乔夫过度讨好老百姓搞自由化 是崩溃的真正原因
: 有些刁民就是要镇压 邓小平用坦克压过去是对的
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