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发帖数: 1 | 1 The President: Congratulations on a great victory. We all watched from the
United States and you did a terrific job. The way you came from behind,
somebody who wasn't given much of a chance, and you ended up winning easily.
It's a fantastic achievement. Congratulations.
President Zelenskyy: You are absolutely right Mr. President. We did win big
and we worked hard for this. We worked a lot but I would like to confess to
you that I had an opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your
skills and knowledge and were able to use it as an example for our
elections and yes it is true that these were unique elections. We were in a
unique situation that we were able to achieve a unique success. I'm able to
tell you the following; the first time you called me to congratulate me when
I won my presidential election, and the second time you are now calling me
when my party won the parliamentary election. I think I should run more
often so you can call me more often and we can talk over the phone more
often.
The President: (laughter) That's a very good idea. I think your country is
very happy about that.
President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we are trying to work
hard because we wanted to drain the swamp here in our country. We brought in
many many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians,
because we want to have a new format and a new type of government. You are
a great teacher for us and in that.
The President: Well it is very nice of you to say that. I will say that we
do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more
than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more
than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and
I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was
speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn't do anything.
A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something
you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine
. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are
happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to
Ukraine.
President Zelenskyy: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but
actually 1000% and I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel
and I did meet with her I also met and talked with Macron and I told them
that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues
with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not
working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out that even
though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but
technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European
Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is
doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially
when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would
also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are
ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are
almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense
purposes.
The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country
has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to
find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say
Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server,
they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole
situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people.
I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I
would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole
nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller,
an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine.
Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.
President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you
just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we
are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on
cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that
purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be
replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work
hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also
like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have
personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will
personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just
recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to
travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted
to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will
make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people.
I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you
Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic
partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in
addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that
all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure
you.
The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good
and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking
about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had
some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He
was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call
you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very
much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak
to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States,
the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine
were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's
a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a
lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the
Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped
the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell you about the prosecutor. First of all
, I understand and I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won
the absolute majority in our Parliament, the next prosecutor general will be
100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and
will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look into the
situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The
issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure
to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the
investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you
have any additional information that you can provide to us, it would be very
helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in
our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine
as far as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the
first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you
100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the
previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new
President well enough.
The President: Well, she's going to go through some things. I will have Mr.
Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr
call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I
heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair
prosecutor so good luck with everything. Your economy is going to get better
and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It's a great country. I
have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people.
President Zelenskyy: I would like to tell you that I also have quite a few
Ukrainian friends that live in the United States. Actually last time I
traveled to the United States, I stayed in New York near Central Park and I
stayed at the Trump Tower. I will talk to them and I hope to see them again
in the future. I also wanted to thank you for your invitation to visit the
United States, specifically Washington DC. On the other hand, I also want to
ensure you that we will be very serious about the case and will work on the
investigation. As to the economy, there is much potential for our two
countries and one of the issues that is very important for Ukraine is energy
independence. I believe we can be very successful and cooperating on energy
independence with United States. We are already working on cooperation. We
are buying American oil but I am very hopeful for a future meeting. We will
have more time and more opportunities to discuss these opportunities and get
to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your
support.
The President: Good. Well, thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will
tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would
like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we'll
work that out. I look forward to seeing you.
President Zelenskyy: Thank you very much. I would be very happy to come and
would be happy to meet with you personally and get to know you better. I am
looking forward to our meeting and I also would like to invite you to visit
Ukraine and come to the city of Kyiv which is a beautiful city. We have a
beautiful country which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that
on September 1 we will be in Poland and we can meet in Poland hopefully.
After that, it might be a very good idea for you to travel to Ukraine. We
can either take my plane and go to Ukraine or we can take your plane, which
is probably much better than mine.
The President: Okay, we can work that out. I look forward to seeing you in
Washington and maybe in Poland because I think we are going to be there at
that time.
President Zelenskyy: Thank you very much Mr. President.
The President: Congratulations on a fantastic job you've done. The whole
world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much of an upset but
congratulations.
President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye. |
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