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Military版 - 看来耗子讲的是实话:科州女子被误诊为肾癌切除两个肾后上星期去世。美国人民的反应:我们都有恐怖的故事..
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b*********3
发帖数: 1709
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美国人民的反应:我们都有恐怖的故事..
科罗拉多州的一名73岁女子在医生错误地摘除肾脏9个月后于周五去世。 两个月前,手
术误诊为癌症。
在她去世前,Linda Woolley告诉丹佛新闻台KDVR她在5月份接受了不必要的手术后,“
生活完全改变了”,科罗拉多大学医院的医生在3月份告诉她,他们发现了癌症 根据病
理报告她的两个肾脏。 但她后来发现报告实际上显示“没有恶性证据”,结果“与良
性过程一致”。
Woolley在手术前一直过着积极的生活,在空闲时间骑马和游泳。 但医疗混乱结束了所
有这一切,导致祖母每周三次进行四小时的透析治疗。
A 73-year-old woman in Colorado died on Friday, nine months after doctors
wrongly removed her kidneys. The surgery followed a mistaken diagnosis of
cancer two months prior.
Prior to her death, Linda Woolley told Denver news station KDVR that her “
life was totally changed” after she underwent the needless surgery in May,
which doctors at the University of Colorado Hospital ordered after telling
her in March that they’d found cancer in both of her kidneys based on
pathology reports. But she later discovered that the reports actually showed
“no evidence of malignancy” from results “consistent with a benign
process.”
Woolley had been leading an active life before the surgery, riding horses
and swimming in her free time. But the medical mix-up put an end to all that
, leading the grandmother to undergo four-hour dialysis treatments three
times a week.
Archimperator7 days ago
A family friend was diagnosed with liver cancer by his doctor and basically
told to go home and get his affairs in order. He was devastated. We implored
him to get a second opinion which he did a few weeks later. It turned out
to be a form of hepatitis that was fully treatable. That was over a decade
ago and he is still alive and well. Needless to say, he switched doctors.
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Peridot
Peridot10 hours ago
I spent my entire career in the medical field and have witnessed many horror
stories....a male friend died of lung cancer two weeks after being
discharged with a clear chest film; a stout female friend had a mastectomy
due to "cancer" which turned out to be benign. She was never told and later
had the other breast removed because it's large size severely affected her
posture and caused back pain; a thoracic surgeon "accidentally" remove a
perfectly healthy lung, leaving the malignant lung untouched. Unfortunately,
there are many more such cases throughout the country. Also, more people
die from medical errors and hospital-acquired diseases than from gunfire.
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Marc
Marc7 days ago
Privacy privilege lies with the patient, not the doctor or hospital. If the
patient waives the privacy rights then the doctor or hospital cannot claim
privilege. They can refuse to release details if they are being sued. They
have not been sued (yet) so they have no right to withhold information. This
is criminal negligence causing death. Doctors are held to a higher standard
when they are functioning within their role as doctors because they have
expert training that make them more knowledgeable and proficient in their
field than the average person. They have the skills to "know better" and if
they fail to exercise proper procedures to ascertain (with a reasonable
degree of accuracy) that something so serious as removing both kidneys is
indeed necessary, then they have failed to meet the standard of treatment
that the patient deserves. At the very least, the test to determine if
cancer was present should have been performed twice before removing BOTH
kidneys! This is so outrageous and heartbreaking for her family and the
suffering she had to needlessly endure.
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MiddleClassIndy
MiddleClassIndy10 hours ago
And that is why you should always get a second or even a third opinion when
something major like this is being recommended. Doctors are human. They make
mistakes. So do people in labs. I was told I needed open heart surgery for
a value issue. Second opinion was I had a mild, non-threatening heart murmur
. Did not have the surgery. That was 20 years ago.
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boogiewoman
boogiewoman10 hours ago
Everyone needs to be their own advocate. Get second and third opinions,
before making any decision. My heart goes out to Linda, her family and
friends. This story is so sad. These medical folks need to have their
license revoked.
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hanina
hanina10 hours ago
I was told I had metastised bone cancer and to make my peace with it. Looked
the Dr in the face and told her They made a mistake. Got dressed and walked
out of the hospital. Turns out I had thyroid cancer but I'm still here to
talk about it.
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The
The7 days ago
My late father had a similar disaster of an experience here in Canada. He
went to a small town Doctor who did NO bloodwork after diagnosing him with
hypertension. (high blood pressure) Had bloodwork been done, the fact that
his kidneys were failing would have been immediately discovered........and
he could have been put on a special diet and received medication. As a
result of the misdiagnosis, his kidneys completely failed a couple of years
later, and he spent his final years on dialysis - which robbed him of his
lifestyle. I told him to get a referral to a specialist and get a second
opinion when he got the diagnosis of high blood pressure, but of course he
did not take my advice.........big mistake.
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Valerie
Valerie7 days ago
A similar thing happened to me. I went into surgery to have 2 parts of my
lung removed because they said I had ( not maybe)cancer. The first thing I
heard when I came to was that it wasn't cancer. They removed the "suspicious
" pieces anyways. I have had severe problems breathing ever since. I will
never understand why they removed non-cancerous parts of my lung.
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GARRYW
GARRYW8 days ago
I met a woman who was on waiting list for double kidney transplant only to
find out that she had allergy to wheat gluten. She work at hospital and was
friends with head internist. She was told to go to wholistic health provider
for second opinion. The supposed best and bright can mess up.......
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J Alphonse
J Alphonse7 days ago
Those medical staff responsible for the diagnoses and removal of her kidneys
should have their licences cancelled, and not be allowed to practice in the
USA. Their insurance must pay punitive damages to the family of the
deceased $10M to $100M.
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jewel
jewel11 hours ago
this is terrifying. and it's one of the reasons i reserve some skepticism
when dealing with diagnoses that require life altering treatments.
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Eugene
Eugene10 hours ago
About 10 years ago during my annual kidney scan for kidney cancer, for which
I'm a survivor, the scan went too high and they said I had "something"
unusual in the lower lobe of my left lung. After numerous scans and tests to
include two biopsies, the VA surgeon called me in and said that they were
going to remove my left lung in a week...when I said "The biopsy came back
positive?" She said "NO, we'll do a biopsy when we remove your lung!" Of
course after a shouting match I left the VA hospital and went to UCLA's
Jonssen Cancer Center....there tests confirmed I didn't have lung cancer but
scar tissue from multiple bouts of pneumonia and wear and tear from 70
years on this Planet! If YOU value your Health "Stay away from the VA,
giving Veterans a second chance to die for their country since 1930!"
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Ilena S.
Ilena S.8 days ago
Except for her age (73 years old) had she been much younger I'd start to
suspect this might have been an illegal organ sale, I have known a few
people who had cancer and the doctors did tons of tests and such before any
kind of surgery was ordered. Maybe the state should investigate these
doctors and see if this has happened with them before...
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Kohone
Kohone11 hours ago
sorry and condolence to all family member and loves ones., It remind me of
how close the hospital almost took my life too. It was an orthopedic surgery
. 27 years later, I am still suffering, and still praying to God that I am
ready to leave this misery, but only by the hand of God.
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DM
DM10 hours ago
My Aunt kept her body in amazing condition and at 88, she didn’t feel right
so the doctors ran tests on her and found cancer in one of her Kidney’s
and they decided rather than cutting into that Kidney, they would remove it
and when they did, they found the same cancer in the other Kidney !
From start to finish she didn’t make it a year ?
I’m not a Doctor but at 88 years old and in terrific shape, you’ve already
won the game, why ruin the rest of your life with trying to prevent the
impossible ?
She could have done nothing and at least lived a couple of more years or
maybe even 5 more years !
Her Doctors should have known better at 88 you only need to get the good
drugs and see how long you can cheat Death !
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Gizzy
Gizzy10 hours ago
Hubby had 1/3 of his lung removed after a cancer diagnosis. Turned out he
had a rare form of pneumonia that mimics cancer. Lawsuit HA! They told us
that partial removal was part of the "cure" for his disease. Now my hubby
uses oxygen at night and a nebulizer 4 times a day. I still think the
results of that surgery actually made him worse.
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Anonymous
Anonymous10 hours ago
"Always, Always get a second opinion" ------------- And do it in a different
city. Doctors are slow to contradict other doctors they know. Our family
learned that the hard way.
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Hughson
Hughson8 days ago
People are willing to get second and third quotes for their car insurance
but when diagnosed with a life threatening illness they accept the first one
they receive. Always get another opinion!
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Bob
Bob7 days ago
"Woman dies months after doctors reportedly removed both of her healthy
kidneys by mistake" Surgeon dies months after wife's widowed husband
reportedly removed both of his healthy kidneys on purpose.
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Jeff
Jeff10 hours ago
You are missing an important point... The Docs and the hospital made money,
who cares about some 73 year woman. My post is meant to be sarcastic but
unfortunately I know that sometimes the thought of additional monetary gain
does supersede a patient receiving the treatment that would benefit them the
most. My father, before he passed away many years ago, was diabetic. Due to
poor circulation to his legs it was determined by a doctor that one leg
needed to be amputated. My brother took him to another doctor who said he
could insert a stint, just like used in heart cases, and he would be fine
for yours to come. The procedure was done, it was not life altering as the
amputation would have been, the recovery time was basically a couple of days
and he died without having the leg amputated.
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h****e
发帖数: 1
2
有我的经历来看
下面的回帖都是傻逼
Major error,别的医生都清楚谋财害命,没有人会告诉病人家属。
老子牛逼在自己搞清楚才出门,否则早就被捏死了。
即使很多有名医生未必清楚医疗配套的杀人机器是多么残酷。。。儿童保护组织,警察
,政府。
h**********e
发帖数: 786
3
傻逼,要看医生水平要看出错的概率,全世界最好的医生一身都会犯很多错,说这些毫
无意义!!
d*c
发帖数: 1
4
你既然相信了耗子
怎么还不捐钱?
h**********e
发帖数: 786
5
傻逼,要看医生水平要看出错的概率,全世界最好的医生一身都会犯很多错,说这些毫
无意义!!
d*******y
发帖数: 2710
6
神也会犯错误,更何况医生不是神,美国医生还有很多AA进去的更不是神。
支持AA的左渣,祝你们早日看上AA医生。
统计数据早就说了
美国每年医疗事故死25万人,平均每天685人,是枪杀案20多倍
https://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/52279475.html
f********g
发帖数: 32
7
看着医学院乌央乌央的 傻B学生, 尼玛上天保佑别生大病
h**********e
发帖数: 786
8
美国有可以诉讼医生,所以有些本来绝症的病人也会因为医生做了手术死了,还是认为
是医生的失误,可以提诉讼,这也是说美国医疗事故统计数字多的一个重要原因。不排
除很多AA的医生水平会差些,其他医生的水平总体还是绝对能保证的。哪个医生手上每
年会死很多人,特别是看绝症的医生。

【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 神也会犯错误,更何况医生不是神,美国医生还有很多AA进去的更不是神。
: 支持AA的左渣,祝你们早日看上AA医生。
: 统计数据早就说了
: 美国每年医疗事故死25万人,平均每天685人,是枪杀案20多倍
: https://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/52279475.html

d*******y
发帖数: 2710
9
生了大病治不好就听天由命,学学敲不死
不治之症去医院只会死得更快。

【在 f********g 的大作中提到】
: 看着医学院乌央乌央的 傻B学生, 尼玛上天保佑别生大病
h**********e
发帖数: 786
10
傻逼,美国有可以诉讼医生,所以有些本来绝症的病人也会因为医生做了手术死了,还
是认为是医生的失误,可以提诉讼,这也是说美国医疗事故统计数字多的一个重要原因
。不排除很多AA的医生水平会差些,其他医生的水平总体还是绝对能保证的。哪个医生
手上每年都会死人,有些看绝症的医生会死很多人。
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yugong出差住店,一觉睡醒,发现躺在冰水浴缸,肾没了单位老中同事才29岁就开始喝六味地黄,正常么?
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b*******8
发帖数: 37364
11
上次有个五毛用每年911接到的报告孩子不见了的电话数,作为每年美国被拐小孩的数
字,大的吓人,几分之一。

【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 美国有可以诉讼医生,所以有些本来绝症的病人也会因为医生做了手术死了,还是认为
: 是医生的失误,可以提诉讼,这也是说美国医疗事故统计数字多的一个重要原因。不排
: 除很多AA的医生水平会差些,其他医生的水平总体还是绝对能保证的。哪个医生手上每
: 年会死很多人,特别是看绝症的医生。

k*******p
发帖数: 8821
12
乔布斯开始阶段如果愿意治疗,他不会死那么快,可以多挺几年。

【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 生了大病治不好就听天由命,学学敲不死
: 不治之症去医院只会死得更快。

B*Q
发帖数: 25729
13
以后都靠马工了
几七看病
几七治疗
h****e
发帖数: 1
14
难说
医疗这种事情。。。
乔布斯有个厉害儿子才行。
没有肯定是医生随便搞他。。
中国找个医院不会这么糟糕的。


: 乔布斯开始阶段如果愿意治疗,他不会死那么快,可以多挺几年。



【在 k*******p 的大作中提到】
: 乔布斯开始阶段如果愿意治疗,他不会死那么快,可以多挺几年。
c*******o
发帖数: 8869
15
耗子说的绝对是对的。无他,墨菲定律:
Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.

【在 b*********3 的大作中提到】
: 美国人民的反应:我们都有恐怖的故事..
: 科罗拉多州的一名73岁女子在医生错误地摘除肾脏9个月后于周五去世。 两个月前,手
: 术误诊为癌症。
: 在她去世前,Linda Woolley告诉丹佛新闻台KDVR她在5月份接受了不必要的手术后,“
: 生活完全改变了”,科罗拉多大学医院的医生在3月份告诉她,他们发现了癌症 根据病
: 理报告她的两个肾脏。 但她后来发现报告实际上显示“没有恶性证据”,结果“与良
: 性过程一致”。
: Woolley在手术前一直过着积极的生活,在空闲时间骑马和游泳。 但医疗混乱结束了所
: 有这一切,导致祖母每周三次进行四小时的透析治疗。
: A 73-year-old woman in Colorado died on Friday, nine months after doctors

m*********9
发帖数: 56
16
是有些医生不道德,这是pay for services的大缺点。弗罗里达曾有一个医生,专给没
病的病人做癌症治疗。
有的医生看到一点癌症的可能,就兴奋,要做癌症治疗,他们看到的都是钱。
医疗不改革,就会有这种问题。

【在 b*********3 的大作中提到】
: 美国人民的反应:我们都有恐怖的故事..
: 科罗拉多州的一名73岁女子在医生错误地摘除肾脏9个月后于周五去世。 两个月前,手
: 术误诊为癌症。
: 在她去世前,Linda Woolley告诉丹佛新闻台KDVR她在5月份接受了不必要的手术后,“
: 生活完全改变了”,科罗拉多大学医院的医生在3月份告诉她,他们发现了癌症 根据病
: 理报告她的两个肾脏。 但她后来发现报告实际上显示“没有恶性证据”,结果“与良
: 性过程一致”。
: Woolley在手术前一直过着积极的生活,在空闲时间骑马和游泳。 但医疗混乱结束了所
: 有这一切,导致祖母每周三次进行四小时的透析治疗。
: A 73-year-old woman in Colorado died on Friday, nine months after doctors

v****s
发帖数: 40
17
西医就是合法杀人罢了,大部分中医也一样。
Y***i
发帖数: 1932
18
蝗疮的思维方式通常异于常人
d*******y
发帖数: 2710
19
你不了解这个病治疗方法有局限
胰腺癌治疗极为困难,,对放化疗均不敏感,局部容易侵犯转移,粘连而不易手术。一
般来说,只有5%—15%的胰腺癌病人可做胰腺癌根治性切除,即使手术切除,5年生存率
仍不超过15%,中位生存期仅为12个月左右。
也就是说只要查出来,不管怎么治,90%以上只能活一年。
你就还剩一年了,你是待在医院任由医生宰割生不如死呢,还是吃喝玩乐快乐的度过最
后的时光?
怎么选还用说吗?我老认为乔不死做出的是正确选择。

【在 k*******p 的大作中提到】
: 乔布斯开始阶段如果愿意治疗,他不会死那么快,可以多挺几年。
m******c
发帖数: 830
20
Not exactly. He got a rare type of pancreatic cancer that has much better
prognosis than other pancreatic cancer. Yet he chose to take those "
Alternative Medicine"...

【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 你不了解这个病治疗方法有局限
: 胰腺癌治疗极为困难,,对放化疗均不敏感,局部容易侵犯转移,粘连而不易手术。一
: 般来说,只有5%—15%的胰腺癌病人可做胰腺癌根治性切除,即使手术切除,5年生存率
: 仍不超过15%,中位生存期仅为12个月左右。
: 也就是说只要查出来,不管怎么治,90%以上只能活一年。
: 你就还剩一年了,你是待在医院任由医生宰割生不如死呢,还是吃喝玩乐快乐的度过最
: 后的时光?
: 怎么选还用说吗?我老认为乔不死做出的是正确选择。

b********s
发帖数: 1508
21
得是胜诉的才能认为是失误吧,你再换个姿势继续舔

【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 傻逼,美国有可以诉讼医生,所以有些本来绝症的病人也会因为医生做了手术死了,还
: 是认为是医生的失误,可以提诉讼,这也是说美国医疗事故统计数字多的一个重要原因
: 。不排除很多AA的医生水平会差些,其他医生的水平总体还是绝对能保证的。哪个医生
: 手上每年都会死人,有些看绝症的医生会死很多人。

B********d
发帖数: 1893
22
不懂楼主的逻辑:为什么一个医疗诊断失误,就证明了某人说的话是实话。诊断失误从
来就有。。。。 失误了之后故意掩盖,才是耗子说的故事吧 ?

【在 b*********3 的大作中提到】
: 美国人民的反应:我们都有恐怖的故事..
: 科罗拉多州的一名73岁女子在医生错误地摘除肾脏9个月后于周五去世。 两个月前,手
: 术误诊为癌症。
: 在她去世前,Linda Woolley告诉丹佛新闻台KDVR她在5月份接受了不必要的手术后,“
: 生活完全改变了”,科罗拉多大学医院的医生在3月份告诉她,他们发现了癌症 根据病
: 理报告她的两个肾脏。 但她后来发现报告实际上显示“没有恶性证据”,结果“与良
: 性过程一致”。
: Woolley在手术前一直过着积极的生活,在空闲时间骑马和游泳。 但医疗混乱结束了所
: 有这一切,导致祖母每周三次进行四小时的透析治疗。
: A 73-year-old woman in Colorado died on Friday, nine months after doctors

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