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This American journalist’s question is too convoluted. Let me give a
summary.
She complained that Putin has criticized each US Presidents, rejected
American exceptionalism, and not said anything positive about US. Therefore,
she believed that Putin held stereotypes against US, blah blah blah… At
last, she asked Putin to say something positive about U.S. (My comment: she
is a typical US idiot: delusional, clueless, hypocritical, dumb, rude, self-
entitled, whining,… just a fucking idiot.)
Putin's answer is classic, as always:
First, the fact is that US started the hostility sentiment against Russia….
Why are you surprised by my critical attitude?… US has started this anti-
Russia hysteria, blaming Russians for everything wrong in America.
Second, we are not here today to award medals and orders to each other. We
are here today to have honest discussion. (So I cannot follow your idiotic
order and thus say something nice about US.) I only speak about facts.
Third, the fact is… the fact is not stereotype. 你这个蠢记者就别不要夹缠不
清了。By the way, we Russian did show some positive attitude to US. So, your
saying that we have stereotyped US is false.
Last, have we gathered here only to praise each other or what? … (don’t be
so thin-skinned). You have hysteria out there: tearing down our flags,
closing our consulate…. How dare you have the nerve to accuse us Russian
being not positive toward US? (are you an idiot???)
r******g
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Transcript:
Toby Gati: Let me ask you a few things. You have complained and pushed back
on US presidents and on US exception, its feeling that it is an exceptional
nation, at many times, and at this session, you critisised every single US
president since the fall of the Soviet Union, without talking about any of
the positives. And as someone who worked in one of the administrations, the
Clinton Administration, I do not remember it that way. And I remember many
things that were done, from WTO membership to increased contacts for
students, doctors, experts, health, space, and I am kind of surprised that
your assessment is more negative than it was last year and the year before.
Now, I think many welcome this, and not only in Russia, but in the United
States. I watch American TV, but I also watch Russian TV. But frankly, it
does not leave much room for people who do not welcome this state of affairs
, and it gives an opportunity for people to blame any problem on foreigners
and, it is usually here on Americans. What we try to do at Valdai, and you
know this, is talk about why people think what they think, and how do we
overcome it. So does it bother you at all that you are reinforcing every
negative stereotype about the US and making it harder, in my personal
opinion, to overcome some of these. And perhaps it would be helpful to talk
about some of the positive things. About President Trump: I did not vote for
him, but I did not work for Hillary Clinton either. In America, we respect
those who respect our institutions, not just individuals, and I think that
is really important. And I do not know if my colleagues from America would
agree, but we think the institution matters more than the person. So, let me
conclude on a positive note, though. If you had to pick one or two areas
where you would try your hardest to break through this negative mood, what
would the areas be, and what would you try to say to the American people to
make that possible?
Vladimir Putin: First of all, this is related to a critical attitude towards
each other. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that, as you
surely know, an unprecedented anti-Russia campaign has been launched in the
United States – starting with the late stages of the Obama Administration,
and it is not over yet.
I do not understand why you are surprised by my critical attitude towards
the activity of the previous US administration, as well as the present
administration. The United States has unleashed an unprovoked anti-Russia
campaign. Somebody lost the election to Mr Trump, Russia was blamed for
everything and a vicious anti-Russia hysteria – there is no other way I can
describe this – was whipped up. Any issue, any failure is being attributed
to Russia. Is that not so? Yes, this is exactly the case – on any issue.
Look for the Russian trail, and, by the way, they immediately find one. This
is my first point.
The second is, we have met here today not to award medals and orders to each
other; we are having a discussion and we are doing this sincerely and
honestly. I also presented my position on many aspects of our relations that
I consider negative. I did not create stereotypes; I spoke about facts.
For example, the fact that chemical weapons have not been eliminated. Is
this a stereotype or a fact? It is a fact. Instead of destroying chemical
weapons, they have put this off until 2023. I spoke about destroying
plutonium. Is this a stereotype or a fact? It is a fact. Instead of meeting
their bilateral obligations, they changed them unilaterally and are not
complying with them within the framework of the treaty; this is what I spoke
about.
However, this does not mean that our relations in the past did not… Yes, by
the way, when I said that we gave our partners access to all nuclear
facilities – what is this, some kind of an anti-American stereotype? Of
course not – I spoke about our openness, but said that this openness was
not duly appreciated.
Because it is perfectly obvious – and I have to repeat this: as a former
FSB director, I know for sure that there was massive support for separatism
and radicalism in our North Caucasus. Do not tell me anything about that –
I know it. Was there no bombing of Belgrade? Without UN Security Council
approval? What is this, an anti-American stereotype? It is a fact. Did the
armed forces not move into Iraq without approval from the UN Security
Council? Is this a stereotype? It is a fact. The United States itself is
creating such stereotypes.
However, this does not mean that there was nothing good in our relations.
There were good things, too, I agree with you – support in joining the WTO,
that is true, and there were other positive developments. Even on an
interpersonal level, we had very good discussions and contacts. For example,
I will never forget Bill Clinton’s support when I was taking my first
steps as Prime Minister.
Boris Yeltsin sent me to New Zealand to stand in for him and that was where
I first met Mr Clinton. We established a very good, positive, kind human
relationship. In other words, we do have something positive to talk about,
but I am talking only about what is standing in our way. Have we gathered
here only to praise each other or what? The current situation leaves much to
be desired, doesn’t it? You have hysteria out there; we have discontent;
you are tearing down our flags, closing our diplomatic missions. What is so
good about it?
All of this is the result of the problems that have accumulated. I explained
where they came from. After all, we have met here not to praise and pamper
each other but to identify problems, show where they come from and think
about how to resolve them. Can they be resolved or not? I believe that they
can. Let us work together to this end. We need your advice and
recommendations. This is why we meet here at the Valdai Club.
Thank you for your question.
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