d********9
发帖数: 3927 | 1 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition |
y***k
发帖数: 9459 | 2 我川当年的slogan其中之一就是take good care of our veterans |
m*******2
发帖数: 431 | 3 靠，惹毛老兵可不是闹着玩的。
说不定哪天就上街搞枪击了。
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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m*******2
发帖数: 431 | 4 不过退伍老兵有专门的医疗服务的，我公司里同事就是退伍军人，说他根本不用公司的
保险，退伍军人医院又便宜又好。
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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e*o
发帖数: 2134 | 5 老兵伤残难道不是政府终身保险？
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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q*********o
发帖数: 1299 | 6 老兵有自己的保险。
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 7 看情况，如果是dishonorable discharge就没有保险福利。
【在 q*********o 的大作中提到】
: 老兵有自己的保险。
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T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 8 老兵医疗服务很差的。便宜倒是便宜。
【在 m*******2 的大作中提到】
: 不过退伍老兵有专门的医疗服务的，我公司里同事就是退伍军人，说他根本不用公司的
: 保险，退伍军人医院又便宜又好。
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c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 9 据说满意率50%? 全国综合满意率是25%好像。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 老兵医疗服务很差的。便宜倒是便宜。
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s*********r
发帖数: 9493 | 10 老兵，蓝领和红脖，都是Obamacare repeal的loser啊。 |
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 11 退伍军人医疗之所以可以便宜靠的就是single payer。
【在 m*******2 的大作中提到】
: 不过退伍老兵有专门的医疗服务的，我公司里同事就是退伍军人，说他根本不用公司的
: 保险，退伍军人医院又便宜又好。
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T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 12 便宜是说老兵不掏钱，并不是医疗本身便宜，主要是国家贴钱。va的成本不比其它医疗
便宜。比如护士的收入/福利，就比大部分其它医院高。single payer本身并没有改变
这个。
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 退伍军人医疗之所以可以便宜靠的就是single payer。
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 13 共和党下届选举全得傻逼了
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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k**i
发帖数: 10191 | 14 这个不太清楚，老兵在战场受的伤，应该是政府一直负责的吧？
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | |
d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 16 老兵难道不是看VA?
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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q*********o
发帖数: 1299 | 17 明显造谣的帖子你还讨论?
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】
: 这个不太清楚，老兵在战场受的伤，应该是政府一直负责的吧？
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q*********o
发帖数: 1299 | 18 你提singer payer 动了人家钱包，很多人要不高兴了。呵呵。
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 退伍军人医疗之所以可以便宜靠的就是single payer。
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 19 VA benefit事实上只能cover大约30%的医疗，其他的只能靠medicare 和私营保险来解
决。老兵本来毛病就多，除了伤残，吸毒，精神病的也多。这些人都是疮破选民，活该
啊。
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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d********9
发帖数: 3927 | 20 VA system 供不应求，所以是按照 priority 来分配医疗资源。不是你是老兵，你就一
定能在医疗系统看病的。如果你是 active duty，那肯定可以给你看。如果退伍很长时
间了，那就不保证能给你看病了。
https://www.caring.com/articles/who-qualifies-for-va-medical-benefits
【在 d****o 的大作中提到】
: 老兵难道不是看VA?
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u***n
发帖数: 21026 | 21 老兵不是VA全包吗
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: 惨就一个字。 很多老兵都有伤，妥妥的pre exiting condition
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d********9
发帖数: 3927 | 22 Veterans 大部分都有精神疾病。Trump 也就是欺负最弱小的在行。
我以前的apartment 管理人员就是从阿副汗退伍的，性格非常非常 tense。根本都不想
和别人交流。
【在 m*******2 的大作中提到】
: 靠，惹毛老兵可不是闹着玩的。
: 说不定哪天就上街搞枪击了。
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d********9
发帖数: 3927 | 23 No.
【在 u***n 的大作中提到】
: 老兵不是VA全包吗
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k**o
发帖数: 15334 | |
d********9
发帖数: 3927 | 25 If you served in the active military service and were separated under any
condition other than dishonorable, you may qualify for VA health care
benefits. Current and former members of the Reserves or National Guard who
were called to active duty by a federal order and completed the full period
for which they were called or ordered to active duty may be eligible for VA
health benefits as well.
知道为什么要说 you may qualify ，而不是 you are qualified 吗？
还有非honorable discharge 的 VA 保吗？
还有哪里说终身哪里说免费了？你脑补出来的？
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】
: 廊坊五毛又来了，连老兵是终身免费医疗都不知道。
: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
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k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 26 非honorable discharge说明你犯罪了，已经被军事法庭审判有罪。还保个
鸟啊，不进监狱都不错了。
you may qualify是因为有服役时间要求，不是说当一个月兵，然后退伍就
能拿到终身保险。
period
VA
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: If you served in the active military service and were separated under any
: condition other than dishonorable, you may qualify for VA health care
: benefits. Current and former members of the Reserves or National Guard who
: were called to active duty by a federal order and completed the full period
: for which they were called or ordered to active duty may be eligible for VA
: health benefits as well.
: 知道为什么要说 you may qualify ，而不是 you are qualified 吗？
: 还有非honorable discharge 的 VA 保吗？
: 还有哪里说终身哪里说免费了？你脑补出来的？
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 27 哪差了？如果VA医院没有的服务，还可以任选外部医院看病，一律免费。这叫差，那啥
叫好？
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 老兵医疗服务很差的。便宜倒是便宜。
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 28 我觉得你精神疾病最严重
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: Veterans 大部分都有精神疾病。Trump 也就是欺负最弱小的在行。
: 我以前的apartment 管理人员就是从阿副汗退伍的，性格非常非常 tense。根本都不想
: 和别人交流。
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 29 很正常啊。总不能你当逃兵还给你高质量免费医疗。
period
VA
【在 d********9 的大作中提到】
: If you served in the active military service and were separated under any
: condition other than dishonorable, you may qualify for VA health care
: benefits. Current and former members of the Reserves or National Guard who
: were called to active duty by a federal order and completed the full period
: for which they were called or ordered to active duty may be eligible for VA
: health benefits as well.
: 知道为什么要说 you may qualify ，而不是 you are qualified 吗？
: 还有非honorable discharge 的 VA 保吗？
: 还有哪里说终身哪里说免费了？你脑补出来的？
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T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 30 比如看specialist要等很久的。我们这经常有老兵不愿去va而是跑到普通医院看病。
老兵医院有问题不是一天两天了。
【在 S*******D 的大作中提到】
: 哪差了？如果VA医院没有的服务，还可以任选外部医院看病，一律免费。这叫差，那啥
: 叫好？
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 31 等待时间超过两个星期还是三个星期来着就可以去任何外部医院治疗了。这福利还叫差
，那我不知道美国还有什么医疗服务敢说好。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 比如看specialist要等很久的。我们这经常有老兵不愿去va而是跑到普通医院看病。
: 老兵医院有问题不是一天两天了。
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b****a
发帖数: 4465 | 32 On November 20, 2013, it was reported that at Williams Jennings Bryan Dorn
Veterans Medical Center in Columbia, South Carolina, patients were not
receiving routine gastrointestinal procedures until up to a year after
requesting an appointment, at times even longer. A review of 280
gastrointestinal patients showed that 52 of the patients showed
complications due to the delay in care and early detection. The VA confirmed
six deaths resulted from delayed care at the hospital.
The Charlie Norwood VA Medical Center in Augusta, Georgia, experienced the
deaths of three patients due to long delays in treatment and had a waiting
list of over 4,500 patients
Between 2010 and 2011, VA internal documents indicated 82 veterans died or
were dying in part due to delayed care from VA hospitals in the United
States.
In the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care system in Phoenix, Arizona, at
least 40 veterans died waiting for care. The VA system in Phoenix used a
secret waiting list. The secret list was used as a placeholder for patients
whose care would be delayed for months. VA guidelines require care be given
in a timely manner, usually within three weeks, but the Phoenix system used
the secret list to hold names between the times appointments were made until
the appointment could be made within the required VA timeline
The VA hospitals in Nashville and Murfreesboro, Tennessee, had 4,752 new
patients go through their facilities during a six month period ending March
31, 2014. Of those, only 29.6 percent saw treatment in the 14-day window
goal set by the Veterans Affairs Department, representing the lowest score
nationwide excluding those with the secret lists. The facilities with the
highest percentage of new patients seen were located in Clarksburg, West
Virginia, where 93.7 percent were seen in the 14-day window.
A VA internal report showed that staff at nearly two-thirds of the nation's
216 facilities were instructed to falsify wait time information on reports.
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) released a report on June 24, 2014, that covered 10
years of VA medical care and facility operations. The initial findings of
the investigation included an estimate of over 1,000 patients dying due to
lack of adequate care, unnecessary and abused prescriptions and long waiting
lines. The report also estimated about $845 million worth of payouts in
malpractice suits.
【在 S*******D 的大作中提到】
: 等待时间超过两个星期还是三个星期来着就可以去任何外部医院治疗了。这福利还叫差
: ，那我不知道美国还有什么医疗服务敢说好。
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 33 所以国会去年通过法案允许veteran拿联邦资助去系统外医院看病啊。你说的是老黄历了
confirmed
【在 b****a 的大作中提到】
: On November 20, 2013, it was reported that at Williams Jennings Bryan Dorn
: Veterans Medical Center in Columbia, South Carolina, patients were not
: receiving routine gastrointestinal procedures until up to a year after
: requesting an appointment, at times even longer. A review of 280
: gastrointestinal patients showed that 52 of the patients showed
: complications due to the delay in care and early detection. The VA confirmed
: six deaths resulted from delayed care at the hospital.
: The Charlie Norwood VA Medical Center in Augusta, Georgia, experienced the
: deaths of three patients due to long delays in treatment and had a waiting
: list of over 4,500 patients
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S*******D
发帖数: 12188 | 34 前年
U.S. President Donald Trump smiles after signing S.544, the Veterans Choice
Program Extension and Improvement Act, at the White House in Washington, U.S
., April 19, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin LamarqueTrump signs veterans act in
Washington.Thomson Reuters
President Trump signed legislation Wednesday that will dramatically expand a
program at the Department of Veterans Affairs that lets patients seek care
from private doctors if they want to bypass the troubled VA system.
The Veterans Choice Improvement Act removes barriers that Congress placed
around the original "choice" initiative and eliminates an expiration date
that would have shuttered the program in August.
Lawmakers created the choice program in 2014 after a massive scandal
involving wait time cover-ups at more than 100 VA facilities around the
country. It was initially structured as a two-year pilot program that
limited when and where veterans could choose to see private doctors.
Patients could only use the choice program if they lived more than 40 miles
from the nearest VA hospital or if they could not get an appointment from
their local VA facility within 30 days.
历了
【在 S*******D 的大作中提到】
: 所以国会去年通过法案允许veteran拿联邦资助去系统外医院看病啊。你说的是老黄历了
:
: confirmed
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