S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 1 Racially discriminated at Rink's Gun & Sport near Chicago Illinois
dengdengdeng
发表于 2014-8-24 09:42
Yesterday I took my in laws to Rink's Gun & Sport. I want to introduce
shooting this very American sport to them.
I walked in and ask to use the range, the front cash register clerk pointed
me to a register near the range door.
There the clerk asked me if I want to use the range and I answered yes.
I took out my wallet and ready to pay, my wife walked in with my kids and
asked me in Chinese: “孩子要peepee，你问问厕所在哪里 (Kids want to peepee,
please ask the clerk where the restroom is.”
Totally unexpected, the clerk yelled at my wife: "English Only！”
“what？？？” Me and my wife were shocked and looked at him, kids were
scared。
I said：“I can speak whatever language with my family."
The clerk said in a very rude tone: "Not in my store."
I said: "You want English? I have an English word for you, FUCK YOU!"
The clerk said: "Fuck you."
The manager heard our argument and asked me what happened.
I explained what happened, and the manager said: "This is America, you need
to speak English. It's our policy, it’s on the door."
I said:" I am American and I can speak whatever language I want to speak,
especially with my family."
...
Kids are scared and my in laws are very nervous. Me and my wife were really
mad.
We walked out and look at the policy and I took a picture.
I told the manager, I will let my lawyer talk to him, this is not ending
like this.
After coming back, I talked with some friends who knows the law, apparently
the chance to win is quite small if I go to court.
But I have been thinking, what if I bring someone who is deaf, who only use
sign language, so this deaf can't be in their store?
Someone like my mother in law who is American citizen but speak very little
English, can't be in their store with a translator?
My kids are scared and got the impression speaking Chinese is going to
getting them in trouble, I now need to take them to see counseling. I always
told them Dad is very proud to speak three languages English, Chinese, and
Russian. And I hope them to be bilingual at least and maybe speak three or
more languages.
My fellow brothers and sisters, anyone with legal experience, please help me
with advice.
Even with small chance to win, I am taking them to court.
I am going to show them who is the real American. |
q********a
发帖数: 438 | 2 同情，还有一个小问题，这篇文章中的mother in law不会英文，如何拿到的
citizenship？我想请教这个问题。 |
Z**********g
发帖数: 14173 | |
S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 4 全家偷渡，政避绿卡，入籍考试背答案+舞弊
【在 q********a 的大作中提到】
: 同情，还有一个小问题，这篇文章中的mother in law不会英文，如何拿到的
: citizenship？我想请教这个问题。
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f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 5 屎博士现在以挖坟为生了？
pointed
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: Racially discriminated at Rink's Gun & Sport near Chicago Illinois
:
: dengdengdeng
: 发表于 2014-8-24 09:42
: Yesterday I took my in laws to Rink's Gun & Sport. I want to introduce
: shooting this very American sport to them.
: I walked in and ask to use the range, the front cash register clerk pointed
: me to a register near the range door.
: There the clerk asked me if I want to use the range and I answered yes.
: I took out my wallet and ready to pay, my wife walked in with my kids and
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w*********r
发帖数: 42116 | 6 子女给父母申请绿卡没有排期，立刻可以拿到绿卡。绿卡5年可以申请公民，痴呆不属
于不让入籍的疾病。都痴呆了，也就不考试了。加州“痴呆”老人特别多。
【在 q********a 的大作中提到】
: 同情，还有一个小问题，这篇文章中的mother in law不会英文，如何拿到的
: citizenship？我想请教这个问题。
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p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 7 这个根本不叫歧视。
情况特殊，这种打枪的地方你必须说英语，否则来了恐怖分子咋办？ |
p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 8 这个不叫被侮辱，叫自取其辱。
打枪的地方火气这么大，哪行啊？ |
t*d
发帖数: 8340 | |
B*Q
发帖数: 25729 | |
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n*****8
发帖数: 19630 | |
z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 12 政庇绿卡，然后上街保护火炬、围攻轮子的不都是小将吗？
【在 n*****8 的大作中提到】
: 老将们真悲催，
: 无法融入主流啊。
: :)
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s*********e
发帖数: 5245 | 13 this dude did not know the American law nor did he handle the issue well.
First, this range is a private space and business not a public space. They
can set their own rules as long as they are not against the law. They put
the notice on the door "English only"' which is their private right to do so
. If you don't agree with this policy, do not go inside to do business with
them. If you do not flow, they can ask you to leave. If you do not, they
call the cops, the cops can arrest you for trespassing.
Sounds to me it has nothing to do with racism., technically.
pointed
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: Racially discriminated at Rink's Gun & Sport near Chicago Illinois
:
: dengdengdeng
: 发表于 2014-8-24 09:42
: Yesterday I took my in laws to Rink's Gun & Sport. I want to introduce
: shooting this very American sport to them.
: I walked in and ask to use the range, the front cash register clerk pointed
: me to a register near the range door.
: There the clerk asked me if I want to use the range and I answered yes.
: I took out my wallet and ready to pay, my wife walked in with my kids and
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 14 private就可以了？
不做gay蛋糕的蛋糕店也是私人的
so
with
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: this dude did not know the American law nor did he handle the issue well.
: First, this range is a private space and business not a public space. They
: can set their own rules as long as they are not against the law. They put
: the notice on the door "English only"' which is their private right to do so
: . If you don't agree with this policy, do not go inside to do business with
: them. If you do not flow, they can ask you to leave. If you do not, they
: call the cops, the cops can arrest you for trespassing.
: Sounds to me it has nothing to do with racism., technically.
:
: pointed
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l*******1
发帖数: 16217 | 15 我不是法律专家，当时怎么觉你说的这么别扭呢，美国可以私设公堂吗，
联邦法和州法有没有规定靶场必须说英文？
接纳顾客，开门做生意的靶场是不是完全意义上的私人场所？
要是靶场上贴上红波与狗不得入内，算不算和 English only 是同样合法private
rules?
so
with
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: this dude did not know the American law nor did he handle the issue well.
: First, this range is a private space and business not a public space. They
: can set their own rules as long as they are not against the law. They put
: the notice on the door "English only"' which is their private right to do so
: . If you don't agree with this policy, do not go inside to do business with
: them. If you do not flow, they can ask you to leave. If you do not, they
: call the cops, the cops can arrest you for trespassing.
: Sounds to me it has nothing to do with racism., technically.
:
: pointed
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 16 合法
【在 l*******1 的大作中提到】
: 我不是法律专家，当时怎么觉你说的这么别扭呢，美国可以私设公堂吗，
: 联邦法和州法有没有规定靶场必须说英文？
: 接纳顾客，开门做生意的靶场是不是完全意义上的私人场所？
: 要是靶场上贴上红波与狗不得入内，算不算和 English only 是同样合法private
: rules?
:
: so
: with
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r**********n
发帖数: 5281 | 17 Yeah, a lot of things can be arranged technically.
[在 suanxiangge (蒜香哥) 的大作中提到：]
：this dude did not know the American law nor did he handle the issue well.
：First, this range is a private space and business not a public space. They
：........... |
l*******1
发帖数: 16217 | |
S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 19 “I am going to show them who is the real American.”
一个偷渡黄皮，说出这样的豪言壮语，难得。 |
c***T
发帖数: 4990 | 20 哈哈，你把你楼上的脸打得火辣辣的。。。
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: private就可以了？
: 不做gay蛋糕的蛋糕店也是私人的
:
: so
: with
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j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | |
q********a
发帖数: 438 | 22 稍微了解点 法，关于歧视规定主要来自1968年的civil right act，以后陆续增加了补
充内容，大致是对种族，性别，宗教，单亲小孩，国籍，残疾人等的歧视，不包括语言
的歧视。这种按照语言引起的官司不好打，但是若按照对于小孩和女士性别的歧视，还
是可行的。另外，这种经营场所是经过政府批准的允许任何自然人通行的，不能称为
private place,只有教堂和军队可以允许歧视。 |
