T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 1 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
killing all 298 aboard, twisted wreckage and mangled bodies remained
uncollected, as local emergency personnel continued to search Friday for
remains of the victims.
In some areas of this field, near the small town of Gravobo in a remote
eastern Ukraine farming region close to the Russian border, backpacks and
other carry-on luggage were grouped together. It was clear that looters had
already opened and rifled through some of them. How many personal items were
taken, no one could say.
As Ukraine and Russia, along with the pro-Russian separatists who have taken
control of the region, fight over who gets to manage the scene, the
recovery operation has become chaotic and the typical procedures used to aid
the investigation into the crash have been compromised.
Rain fell Friday afternoon over bodies that still remained on the field, and
they weren't covered up to protect them. Such scenes are normally cordoned
off, but here, men randomly walked the area, finding an item or a limb, then
marking the site by staking the ground with a stick that has a white piece
of fabric twisted around it.
Absent was the "grid" walk at such scenes, where organized teams in a line
walk a grid pattern to make sure nothing is left uncovered. Also missing was
any organized way of categorizing the debris -- description, location,
photo – that is standard procedure for a crime scene.
Nor was there any effort to secure personal items, such as a Winnie-the-Poo
teddy bear or a Minnie Mouse lunchbox, that belonged to victims so they
could be returned to their families.
Many of the dead have been identified through passports found at the scene,
where some victims were miraculously intact. But others were too mangled or
burned to be identifiable.
Hauntingly, passengers still strapped to their seats were found in contorted
positions that would not be possible if alive. Next to one young man was a
watch separated from its strap. It's digital display showed 15:54, possibly
the time the missile hit the plane.
Local residents said they were still in shock over what happened. Some said
they cried Thursday as they rushed out to help, only to realize they were
helpless to save anyone. Several took photographs of the scene as if it were
a tourist attraction.
One nearby resident, Alexander Aleksandrovich, and his teenage grandson,
Cyril, thanked their good fortune. A part of the plane's body and the engine
just missed their house and landed nearby in a charred pit.
They attributed the near miss to a large orthodox Christian cross they
erected on their land last year. "As my wife told me '(the plane) was
heading towards (the house),'" said Aleksandrovich. "She came out of the
town to see the plane coming, it started to fragment and crashed across the
road."
"It was by the Grace of God we are still alive – what other kind of power
could have pushed it aside so that it didn't fall on peaceful people. The
cross protected us – we survived."
Cyril said his father and mother had to be taken to the hospital because of
exposure to the airplane fuel's fumes, which is highly toxic.
While the world's focus for now is on the fields containing a tragic end for
298 passengers, residents warned that the possible cause of the plane's
destruction – the separatists' fight for autonomy from the national
government in Kiev – shouldn't get lost.
"Remember we are still fighting here," said Alexandrovich. "Let's not forget
about that." | k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 2 乌克兰独立了23年，在民主自由光辉照耀下，p民素质比共产独裁的苏联不知高多少倍
。要是是苏联时期，尸体都被抢了。 | d**********i
发帖数: 4877 | 3 re
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 乌克兰独立了23年，在民主自由光辉照耀下，p民素质比共产独裁的苏联不知高多少倍
: 。要是是苏联时期，尸体都被抢了。
| F******t
发帖数: 948 | 4 麻痹不管哪里，向往独裁的人民就这个德性。
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 5
唉，不拿就让邻居拿了，反正是拿，为啥我不拿？
【在 F******t 的大作中提到】
: 麻痹不管哪里，向往独裁的人民就这个德性。
:
: cards
: cameras,
: ,
| c****g
发帖数: 37081 | | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 7 家属得赶紧关信用卡。
Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor to the Kiev government, said: 'I have
received information that terrorist death-hunters were collecting not only
cash and jewellery of the crashed Boeing dead passengers but also the credit
cards of the victims.
'Currently, they might as well try to use them in Ukraine or pass them on to
Russia.
'My humble request to the relatives of the victims to freeze their credit
cards, so that they won't loose their assets to terrorists.' | x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 8 如果乌克兰现在还是属于苏联，抢劫不会发生。
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| m****a
发帖数: 4032 | | y***u
发帖数: 7039 | 10 因为他们出生在共产的苏联，虽然来到民主国家，但是他们的血液里面是共产基因。
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| | | C*******f
发帖数: 13152 | 11 Katrina还是要荷枪实弹的国民卫队才能体现向往民主的人民的德行。
【在 F******t 的大作中提到】
: 麻痹不管哪里，向往独裁的人民就这个德性。
:
: cards
: cameras,
: ,
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 12
其实美国老黑最不配啥民主，就欠酋长奴隶主治理，民主了就是吃大户。
【在 C*******f 的大作中提到】
: Katrina还是要荷枪实弹的国民卫队才能体现向往民主的人民的德行。
| M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 13 "camera holders missing cameras" which brand, so strudy?
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 14 民主害了乌克兰。
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| S****e
发帖数: 10596 | 15 make my day
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 乌克兰独立了23年，在民主自由光辉照耀下，p民素质比共产独裁的苏联不知高多少倍
: 。要是是苏联时期，尸体都被抢了。
| f*****9
发帖数: 6768 | 16 就这抢东西的劲头， 大毛子见了都害怕这些穷亲戚硬要合并沾上自己 | O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 17 1976年唐山地震时，有民兵巡逻，一旦发现抢劫的，有三人以上目击者，抢劫者就当场
被枪毙。 一个人从一个死人手腕上抹下一块手表，就被当场枪毙了。 | s*****s
发帖数: 142 | 18 无知，要是苏联时期，p民想接近残骸？活得不耐烦了？知道迪亚特洛夫事件吗？
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 乌克兰独立了23年，在民主自由光辉照耀下，p民素质比共产独裁的苏联不知高多少倍
: 。要是是苏联时期，尸体都被抢了。
| b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 19
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| i********r
发帖数: 12113 | 20 南橘北枳可不是这个意思
【在 y***u 的大作中提到】
: 因为他们出生在共产的苏联，虽然来到民主国家，但是他们的血液里面是共产基因。
:
: cards
: cameras,
: ,
| | | s*****s
发帖数: 142 | 21 各位nc，住在乌克兰境内就是乌克兰人？残骸靠近乌俄边境，附近住的的应该都是俄罗
斯人吧，至少是亲俄分子，跟乌克兰有毛关系，智商捉急的节奏 | k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 22 笑话，乌克兰现在还声称他的主权，那里的人还是乌克兰护照，到你嘴里就和乌克兰没
关系，没关系乌克兰军队跑过去打个屁，别人和谁混关基辅屁事。
【在 s*****s 的大作中提到】
: 各位nc，住在乌克兰境内就是乌克兰人？残骸靠近乌俄边境，附近住的的应该都是俄罗
: 斯人吧，至少是亲俄分子，跟乌克兰有毛关系，智商捉急的节奏
| s*****s
发帖数: 142 | 23 这时你想起那是乌克兰的领土了，是乌克兰的领土毛子为啥要插手搅屎，据说现在是叛
军控制东部二省呐。
我说的是不管乌克兰族人的事，有些人连乌克兰的人口构成都不知道就在这乱喷。
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 笑话，乌克兰现在还声称他的主权，那里的人还是乌克兰护照，到你嘴里就和乌克兰没
: 关系，没关系乌克兰军队跑过去打个屁，别人和谁混关基辅屁事。
| x***n
发帖数: 4 | | m*****u
发帖数: 15526 | 25 这是乌克兰单方面的说法吧？有现场记者和叛军方面证实没有抢劫活动
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 26
第二张绑在座椅上坠地，有把伞说不定就活了。
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
:
: cards
: cameras,
: ,
| t****9
发帖数: 4491 | 27 Ukraine woman reportedly posts selfies with mascara 'looted' from Malaysia
Airlines crash
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ukrainian-woman-reportedl
【在 m*****u 的大作中提到】
: 这是乌克兰单方面的说法吧？有现场记者和叛军方面证实没有抢劫活动
:
: cards
: cameras,
: ,
| u*******g
发帖数: 3300 | 28 人穷志短
cards
cameras,
,
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 现金拿走，手表撸掉，尸体没人管。
: Looting at plane crash scene may hamper investigation
: NORTH OF GRAVOBO, Ukraine — The black handbag lay on the field turning
: muddy from the rain. A beige wallet lay next to it, open, near credit cards
: and photographs carefully lined up next to each other on the wet grass,
: ordinary pictures of loved ones: son, daughter, father and mother.
: The scene was replicated across the field – camera holders missing cameras,
: wallets missing cash, cosmetics and other items scattered in random
: patterns when a plane disintegrates and falls from the sky.
: A day after a Malaysian airliner was shot down by a surface-to-air missile,
| g******n
发帖数: 53185 | | s**********e
发帖数: 33562 | | | | y*******r
发帖数: 1862 | 31 大毛压根本没有合并打算吧。独立或高度自治还可以做个战略缓冲区， 合并了又可能
直接对峙了。 当初合并了克里米亚已经为万夫所指了，应该不会再背包袱了
【在 f*****9 的大作中提到】
: 就这抢东西的劲头， 大毛子见了都害怕这些穷亲戚硬要合并沾上自己
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