l***i
发帖数: 2542 | 1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/05/05/hard
A study published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences finds that hard work is the reason why Asian-American students do
better in school than their white peers.
But the authors of the study also found that, by some measures, Asian youth
may not be as happy. Asians in surveys were less likely to agree with the
statement "I feel good about myself," and they reported spending less time
with friends and feeling more distant from their parents.
Asian students' better academic performance is often commented on, both in
research papers and in high-school locker rooms around the country. Yet the
causes of that success have been widely debated. Some scholars have argued
that they might be doing better mainly because their parents are better
educated, while others have suggested that Asians are simply brighter than
their classmates.
Some of the debate has focused on parenting. Amy Chua's book Battle Hymn of
the Tiger Mother attracted national attention -- and controversy -- to the
parenting techniques stereotypically associated with Asian households. In an
interview, Chua praised the new paper. "It's a very striking and original
study with a large database," she said.
The authors of the study, University of Michigan's Yu Xie and Amy Hsin of
Queens College, City University of New York, examined two national surveys
of students in kindergarten through high school, focusing on data for 4,246
white students and 989 Asian students. The authors compared measures of
academic achievement such as students' grades with teachers' responses to
questions as to whether their students showed a willingness to work. Hsin
and Xie found that the differences in how hard students worked, according to
their teachers, accounted for much of the Asian group's better performance
in the classroom compared to whites.
The authors also considered other explanations for the Asian students'
success. Information about students' intelligence as measured by
standardized tests or about their families' socioeconomic status was not
nearly as accurate in predicting their grades as their teachers' statements
about their study habits. Indeed, it is not clear that Asian students have
any advantage over whites in terms of natural thinking ability, and in some
cases, Asians do better in school than whites whose parents are wealthier
and better educated.
These findings do not conclude the debate, but instead raise even more
sensitive questions: Why do Asian students work harder, and can members of
groups that do not do as well academically replicate Asians' success by
adopting their attitudes?
Chua and her husband Jed Rubenfeld, both professors at Yale Law School,
contend the study is evidence that aspects of Asian-American culture are
partly responsible for Asian children's good grades. The couple published a
new book earlier this year arguing that certain cultural traits can explain
the successes of various immigrant groups in the country's history.
"There can be no doubt that these practices and attitudes are not exclusive
to Asians, and can be incredibly helpful to people outside those communities
," Rubenfeld said.
The couple added that a mere change in attitude would not be enough to
eliminate the obstacles confronting black children. "When it comes to
America's poorest groups, it's pretty clear what the true causes of poverty
are. You have to start with history, you know, centuries of slavery and mass
incarceration," Chua said.
But Hsin, one of the authors of the study, warned against applying her
results too broadly. "Asian Americans have access to a unique set of
resources that are not available to other immigrant groups," she said. "The
'Tiger Mom' thesis, and that whole discussion, falls short."
Hsin, who was born in Taiwan and grew up in the United States and Canada,
said that even poor Asian immigrants benefit from having well-educated
friends or relatives who can recommend a tutoring program for their children
and help them understand the American educational system.
She and Xie found that students who responded in surveys that math was not
an innate skill were more likely to work harder. But hard work was much more
than the result of a student's belief in her ability to learn.
Jennifer Lee, a professor at the University of California, Irvine, said she
sees the paper as "a very powerful and informative piece of empirical
research that pushes the debate forward." Yet she also noted what she sees
as the limitations of the authors' method. Lee argued that wealth and
education among Asian-American communities as a whole have an important
effect on how students learn.
Tutoring is freely available in some Korean churches in Los Angeles, noted
Lee, who wrote a commentary accompanying Hsin and Xie's research.
"If you are poor and working class, say, Chinese or Korean, your class
disadvantage doesn't necessarily have to be as disadvantageous because you
will have access to other ethnic resources," Lee said. "That kind of thing
is not going to be measured in any kind of quantitative study."
Lee criticizes Chua's work in her commentary and elsewhere, but she does not
believe that strict parenting is to blame for the fact that young Asians
can seem unhappy compared to whites.
Lee argued that these stresses are the result of the expectations placed on
Asian children by society as a whole as much as of those placed on them by
their parents, noting that even positive stereotypes can have negative
consequences and that the United States remains a racially stratified
country. | k*******g
发帖数: 7321 | 2 文章无非是想说，亚洲学生并不比白人聪明，只努力学习才成绩好！
其实不然，美国最近这几十年，农业上大量激素和化学药品的使用，导致白人人种退化
、智力降低，是有目共睹的！ | k*******i
发帖数: 383 | 3 要么是被采访的人要么是这篇报道的作者被“政治正确”束缚着想说不敢说，不说又不
行，然后就憋迟出了这么一片东西。
youth
the
【在 l***i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/05/05/hard
: A study published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of
: Sciences finds that hard work is the reason why Asian-American students do
: better in school than their white peers.
: But the authors of the study also found that, by some measures, Asian youth
: may not be as happy. Asians in surveys were less likely to agree with the
: statement "I feel good about myself," and they reported spending less time
: with friends and feeling more distant from their parents.
: Asian students' better academic performance is often commented on, both in
: research papers and in high-school locker rooms around the country. Yet the
| e*****s
发帖数: 7359 | 4 请问激素和化学药品的使用是如何导致白人人种退化的？ | c****3
发帖数: 6038 | | D*******o
发帖数: 3229 | 6 这种文章其实对我们亚裔起到一定的保护作用。AA的倡导者往往拿外界条件说事，这篇
文章强调亚裔的hard works是学业成功的原因，从而削弱了AA论的合理性(should hard
working be punished or laziness be rewarded?)。 | G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 7 本来就是 hard works
一路混到高中毕业的亚裔还不是一样找不到像样的工作
一般亚裔家教都要求成绩好，混子的比例少很多就是了
hard
【在 D*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这种文章其实对我们亚裔起到一定的保护作用。AA的倡导者往往拿外界条件说事，这篇
: 文章强调亚裔的hard works是学业成功的原因，从而削弱了AA论的合理性(should hard
: working be punished or laziness be rewarded?)。
| D*******o
发帖数: 3229 | 8 这本来就是皇帝的新衣。有人坚持为AA辩解，强调社会因素，环境因素，历史因素，好
像人类有genetic memory of slavery，愚蠢到可耻的地步。
发信人: GoTouch (够她吃), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: Study ties hard work to Asian students’ higher grades.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 6 15:02:24 2014, 美东)
本来就是 hard works
一路混到高中毕业的亚裔还不是一样找不到像样的工作
一般亚裔家教都要求成绩好，混子的比例少很多就是了 | T*****u
发帖数: 7103 | 9 本来就是努力的结果啊，还tmd以为天上的馅饼偏爱asian捏 | t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 10 原文里那个Lee的采访又把AA合理化了。
因为她说即使是亚裔穷孩子，也能得到church free tutor program,
所以AA，照顾黑人穷孩子，而不照顾亚裔穷孩子就是合理的了。
hard
【在 D*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这种文章其实对我们亚裔起到一定的保护作用。AA的倡导者往往拿外界条件说事，这篇
: 文章强调亚裔的hard works是学业成功的原因，从而削弱了AA论的合理性(should hard
: working be punished or laziness be rewarded?)。
| w*******r
发帖数: 7276 | 11 体育，赚钱，哪一样不需要hard work
【在 T*****u 的大作中提到】
: 本来就是努力的结果啊，还tmd以为天上的馅饼偏爱asian捏
| t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 12 虎妈不都在这片报道里说，导致黑人长期贫困的最深层原因是奴隶制吗。
TNND, 奴隶制取消都150年了，还在说奴隶制。
【在 D*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这本来就是皇帝的新衣。有人坚持为AA辩解，强调社会因素，环境因素，历史因素，好
: 像人类有genetic memory of slavery，愚蠢到可耻的地步。
: 发信人: GoTouch (够她吃), 信区: Military
: 标 题: Re: Study ties hard work to Asian students’ higher grades.
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 6 15:02:24 2014, 美东)
: 本来就是 hard works
: 一路混到高中毕业的亚裔还不是一样找不到像样的工作
: 一般亚裔家教都要求成绩好，混子的比例少很多就是了
| K*****2
发帖数: 9308 | | w*p
发帖数: 16484 | 14 在美国比的就是谁更不要脸
【在 K*****2 的大作中提到】
: 这玩意还是伤不到AA，人家总能找到理由
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