P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 1 基本来说是无能和失职。这是主要是指事件早期。
飞机失联后，应该半小时内就应该公告。这样的话别的国家都会参与搜寻。尤其是各国
的军事雷达介入后，定位失事飞机的可能性最大。马拉西亚拖了四个小时。
第二个重大责任是马方军界延迟披露了370回航的消息。导致最初的搜救努力化作流水。
这个反应马国政府不同部门沟通不畅的问题。
这些都是重大责任。
在此以后，搜救努力变成了十几个国家的联合努力。马国无力也无能主导这么大规模的
搜救活动。它只起一个协调作用而已。
十几个国家的联合努力，包括最先进的技术设备。听说中国自己就调动了十几颗卫星。
每日的钱向流水一样地花出去。目的就只有一个：找到飞机在哪里。
至于马国宣布的飞机消失在南印度洋，那是英国人的结论。马国只是传声而已。
马国不拥有真相，你叫它如何隐瞒真相？
再说家属们。能理解他们承受的巨大痛苦。但看着看着感觉味道变了。
与其问马国，莫如看电视。
马国不拥有任何独家信息。
它犯的过错，走司法程序和它算账。
别的都是无用。闹反而不会博得同情。
既然说道隐瞒真相，不能不回头说说兲朝。
当英国卫星公司分析表明飞机有南北两条通道后，北面各国纷纷表态飞机没有越境。
中国政府回答记者提问时，说马国政府问我就告诉。尼玛惊得我眼球都掉到地上了。
这个时候卖关子，难道不是隐瞒真相？ |
W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 2 你怎么知道马来没有真相？可能门儿清，英国人给了丫一个下坡儿的机会于是就溜下来了
马来说什么数学分析，数据等等，这些都不算证据
所以到目前为止还是没有定论
水。
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 基本来说是无能和失职。这是主要是指事件早期。
: 飞机失联后，应该半小时内就应该公告。这样的话别的国家都会参与搜寻。尤其是各国
: 的军事雷达介入后，定位失事飞机的可能性最大。马拉西亚拖了四个小时。
: 第二个重大责任是马方军界延迟披露了370回航的消息。导致最初的搜救努力化作流水。
: 这个反应马国政府不同部门沟通不畅的问题。
: 这些都是重大责任。
: 在此以后，搜救努力变成了十几个国家的联合努力。马国无力也无能主导这么大规模的
: 搜救活动。它只起一个协调作用而已。
: 十几个国家的联合努力，包括最先进的技术设备。听说中国自己就调动了十几颗卫星。
: 每日的钱向流水一样地花出去。目的就只有一个：找到飞机在哪里。
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 3
来了
你自己都说了，没定论。和没真相有啥区别？
马拉西亚除了知道飞机起飞折返的信息外不比别人知道更多信息。它的技术能力在那里
摆着呢。南印度洋是雷达真空，这是谁也没办法的事情。除了找到黑匣子外，别的都是
猜测。
【在 W***o 的大作中提到】
: 你怎么知道马来没有真相？可能门儿清，英国人给了丫一个下坡儿的机会于是就溜下来了
: 马来说什么数学分析，数据等等，这些都不算证据
: 所以到目前为止还是没有定论
:
: 水。
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s********i
发帖数: 17328 | 4 同意。主要是这两点。早期太不make sense了，折返飞行在马来上空飞了一个多小时，
不只是军方雷达，民航雷达也应该能看到。知道折返还在东边找也不make sense。 |
b********6
发帖数: 35437 | 5 马来西亚政府一开始就知道知道飞机不在泰国湾里，却让大家在那里找了一个星期。
英国人的卫星算出飞机在南印度洋并告诉马国，马国瞒不下去了，又拖了一个星期告诉
大家飞机是在南印度洋。
所有这些都是在拖延救援，让飞机尽快沉底 |
P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 6
航空管制雷达是被动雷达。飞机的transponder必须工作才能采集信息。这里
transponder被关了。
所以航空管制雷达失效了。
军用雷达是主动雷达，和transponder没关系。
From wiki
Secondary surveillance radar (SSR)[1] is a radar system used in air traffic
control (ATC), that not only detects and measures the position of aircraft i
.e. range and bearing, but also requests additional information from the
aircraft itself such as its identity and altitude. Unlike primary radar
systems that measure only the range and bearing of targets by detecting
reflected radio signals, SSR relies on targets equipped with a radar
transponder, that replies to each interrogation signal by transmitting a
response containing encoded data. SSR is based on the military
identification friend or foe (IFF) technology originally developed during
World War II, therefore the two systems are still compatible. Monopulse
secondary surveillance radar (MSSR), Mode S, TCAS and ADS-B are similar
modern methods of secondary surveillance.
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】
: 同意。主要是这两点。早期太不make sense了，折返飞行在马来上空飞了一个多小时，
: 不只是军方雷达，民航雷达也应该能看到。知道折返还在东边找也不make sense。
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m******e
发帖数: 1399 | 7 其实就是马来西亚政府想隐瞒一件事。现在各国就是想把这事挖出来。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.3
【在 b********6 的大作中提到】
: 马来西亚政府一开始就知道知道飞机不在泰国湾里，却让大家在那里找了一个星期。
: 英国人的卫星算出飞机在南印度洋并告诉马国，马国瞒不下去了，又拖了一个星期告诉
: 大家飞机是在南印度洋。
: 所有这些都是在拖延救援，让飞机尽快沉底
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s********i
发帖数: 17328 | 8 雷达的工作原理就是主动的，否则那叫walkie talkie。
not only detects and measures the position of aircraft i.e. range and
bearing就是主动部分。
在关掉应答器后，只是没有additional information from the aircraft itself了而
已。
其实航空雷达在这一点上更有效，因为在航空雷达上很容易发现不明飞行物。
traffic
i
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
:
: 航空管制雷达是被动雷达。飞机的transponder必须工作才能采集信息。这里
: transponder被关了。
: 所以航空管制雷达失效了。
: 军用雷达是主动雷达，和transponder没关系。
: From wiki
: Secondary surveillance radar (SSR)[1] is a radar system used in air traffic
: control (ATC), that not only detects and measures the position of aircraft i
: .e. range and bearing, but also requests additional information from the
: aircraft itself such as its identity and altitude. Unlike primary radar
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o*******y
发帖数: 1498 | 9 真不一定是各国都想挖。我就好奇，美国在这个事情上，也是什么都不知道吗？还是不
想多说？
要是飞机上多是美国人，是不是美国的反应要强烈点？
【在 m******e 的大作中提到】
: 其实就是马来西亚政府想隐瞒一件事。现在各国就是想把这事挖出来。
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.3
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s********i
发帖数: 17328 | 10 这件事儿如果真是飞行员找小三导致自杀，那么这个飞行员太狡猾了。他选择的路线只
有一个多小时在马来上空，其他基本上是雷达盲区，如果这一个小时处理不了他，他就
消失了。在马来上空的一个小时很关键，如果没人管，他就直接飞过，如果有人管他可
以找借口拖延时间，只要飞出马来雷达区他就free了。天网恢恢疏而不漏，卫星信号暴
露了飞机的最后位置。但我们可能永远不能确定发生了什么。
现在针对的马国的焦点就是在这一个小时内它到底做了什么？如果它和飞机有联系，就
说明它在掩盖真相，如果它和飞机没联系而飞机就这么飞过马国领空，就说明马航和马
国的无能。但无论哪种，飞机找不到了对马航和马国都是最好的结果。 |
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | |
P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 12 You assume too much.
Secondary radar doesn't rely on echo.
Air traffic control - standard international practice is to monitor airspace
using two radar systems: primary and secondary.
Primary radar -based on the earliest form of radar developed in the 1930s,
detects and measures the approximate position of aircraft using reflected
radio signals. It does this whether or not the subject wants to be tracked.
Secondary radar, which relies on targets being equipped with a transponder,
also requests additional information from the aircraft - such as its
identity and altitude.
All commercial aircraft are equipped with transponders (an abbreviation of "
transmitter responder"), which automatically transmit a unique four-digit
code when they receive a radio signal sent by radar.
The code gives the plane's identity and radar stations go on to establish
speed and direction by monitoring successive transmissions. This flight data
is then relayed to air traffic controllers.
However, once an aircraft is more than 240km (150 miles) out to sea, radar
coverage fades and air crew keep in touch with air traffic control and other
aircraft using high-frequency radio.
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】
: 雷达的工作原理就是主动的，否则那叫walkie talkie。
: not only detects and measures the position of aircraft i.e. range and
: bearing就是主动部分。
: 在关掉应答器后，只是没有additional information from the aircraft itself了而
: 已。
: 其实航空雷达在这一点上更有效，因为在航空雷达上很容易发现不明飞行物。
:
: traffic
: i
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 13 如果是飞行员主动关掉transponder，那也是马航的责任。
airspace
.
,
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: You assume too much.
: Secondary radar doesn't rely on echo.
: Air traffic control - standard international practice is to monitor airspace
: using two radar systems: primary and secondary.
: Primary radar -based on the earliest form of radar developed in the 1930s,
: detects and measures the approximate position of aircraft using reflected
: radio signals. It does this whether or not the subject wants to be tracked.
: Secondary radar, which relies on targets being equipped with a transponder,
: also requests additional information from the aircraft - such as its
: identity and altitude.
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 14 没说不是它的责任了。这东西有赔偿有官司可打。
我只是想说，过分情绪化没有意义。
在追寻370下落的任务上，别说马航，就是马拉西亚都只能鸭子听雷。
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: 如果是飞行员主动关掉transponder，那也是马航的责任。
:
: airspace
: .
: ,
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 15 Lack of response and action in the first few hours is the biggest reason why
this is a mess. And continuing to give false, misleading, contradicting and
nonsense to lead on the victims' family, collaborating governments and
entities, and even the press is the second biggest wrongdoing. The third is
the lax control of its airport and boarding practice which poses enormous
risks to the safety of the air plane. The fourth is the pilots are currently
the biggest suspects to commit the crimes. Such a long rap sheet details
what RESPONSIBILITIES you asked.
Guess what, enormous law suits would come, and Malaysia can kiss goodbye its
tourism business for a long time.
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 没说不是它的责任了。这东西有赔偿有官司可打。
: 我只是想说，过分情绪化没有意义。
: 在追寻370下落的任务上，别说马航，就是马拉西亚都只能鸭子听雷。
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 16 If at this moment, if you still rely on Malaysia for accurate information,
the
fault is on you.
Why do you want to put yourself in a such a situation, when Malaysia no
longer owns the facts or first hand information?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
why
and
is
currently
its
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Lack of response and action in the first few hours is the biggest reason why
: this is a mess. And continuing to give false, misleading, contradicting and
: nonsense to lead on the victims' family, collaborating governments and
: entities, and even the press is the second biggest wrongdoing. The third is
: the lax control of its airport and boarding practice which poses enormous
: risks to the safety of the air plane. The fourth is the pilots are currently
: the biggest suspects to commit the crimes. Such a long rap sheet details
: what RESPONSIBILITIES you asked.
: Guess what, enormous law suits would come, and Malaysia can kiss goodbye its
: tourism business for a long time.
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 17 Because all the information still comes out from Malaysia, formally and
legally. Where the rescue teams and victims' families suppose to obtain
reliable information, New York Time, or Wall Street Journal, or engineers at
Boeing or RR, or Mr. Murdock's tweet?
the
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: If at this moment, if you still rely on Malaysia for accurate information,
: the
: fault is on you.
: Why do you want to put yourself in a such a situation, when Malaysia no
: longer owns the facts or first hand information?
: It doesn't make any sense at all.
:
: why
: and
: is
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 18 that's flatly false.
why couldn't Chinese government talk to Inmarsat directly?
if you choose to consume second hand information, you cannot blame others.
at
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Because all the information still comes out from Malaysia, formally and
: legally. Where the rescue teams and victims' families suppose to obtain
: reliable information, New York Time, or Wall Street Journal, or engineers at
: Boeing or RR, or Mr. Murdock's tweet?
:
: the
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 19 Because the MH assumes the legal ability (and liability) for such
communication. It is their airplane after all. Chinese government has no
choice in such case.
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: that's flatly false.
: why couldn't Chinese government talk to Inmarsat directly?
: if you choose to consume second hand information, you cannot blame others.
:
: at
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 20 Inmarsat is doing this voluntarily, because it has no business dealing in
tracking this airplane. It doesn't take order from Malaysian government.
Inmarsat's conclusion is peer reviewed, and approved by AAIB. When it was
released to Malaysia, it has already come out to public domain.
China is a key stakeholder in this accident.
And why would you conclude that Inmarsat would reject China's request?
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Because the MH assumes the legal ability (and liability) for such
: communication. It is their airplane after all. Chinese government has no
: choice in such case.
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 21 Did you just contradict yourself. Now according to you, Inmarsat release
such info "first" (When it was released to Malaysia, it has already come out
to public domain) to public domain, so why you accuse China only choose to
"consume second hand info"?
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Inmarsat is doing this voluntarily, because it has no business dealing in
: tracking this airplane. It doesn't take order from Malaysian government.
: Inmarsat's conclusion is peer reviewed, and approved by AAIB. When it was
: released to Malaysia, it has already come out to public domain.
: China is a key stakeholder in this accident.
: And why would you conclude that Inmarsat would reject China's request?
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W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 22 我说的观点是： 你怎么知道马来西亚政府不知道真相？？？ 你怎么知道他们知道的不
比其他人多？？
技术能力？这只是一种手段知道真相； 你怎么知道飞机在掉下来之前有没有和马来西
亚政府通话？你确定所有新闻报出来的消息100%准确？cover了100% details？？
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Inmarsat is doing this voluntarily, because it has no business dealing in
: tracking this airplane. It doesn't take order from Malaysian government.
: Inmarsat's conclusion is peer reviewed, and approved by AAIB. When it was
: released to Malaysia, it has already come out to public domain.
: China is a key stakeholder in this accident.
: And why would you conclude that Inmarsat would reject China's request?
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 23 I didn't.
If you ask Inmarsat, you get first hand information.
When you ask Malaysia, you will get second hand information.
So why would you want to go after Malaysia for second hand information?
out
to
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Did you just contradict yourself. Now according to you, Inmarsat release
: such info "first" (When it was released to Malaysia, it has already come out
: to public domain) to public domain, so why you accuse China only choose to
: "consume second hand info"?
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 24 Malaysian has information of the plane up to when its military radar has
last detected it. The pilot's hard drive is under FBI investigation.
It might dig further on the pilots' background.
Other than that, Malaysia has no more information to reveal, because it's
not at the front of the search effort.
You tell me, what else it might be hiding?
【在 W***o 的大作中提到】
: 我说的观点是： 你怎么知道马来西亚政府不知道真相？？？ 你怎么知道他们知道的不
: 比其他人多？？
: 技术能力？这只是一种手段知道真相； 你怎么知道飞机在掉下来之前有没有和马来西
: 亚政府通话？你确定所有新闻报出来的消息100%准确？cover了100% details？？
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 25 Ｄid you just say Inmarsat published the info to public domain before it
told Malaysia, so why you are so sure Chinese government received 2nd info
on this matter?
The reason people go after Malaysia for CONFIRMED info is because Malaysia
bears legal responsibility at this moment. Anyone can publish his guesses,
assumptions, calculations, and even his assertions onto public domain.
However, he does not have legal liability. You may declare with 100%
sureness that the plane is at the bottom of Atlantic ocean, if some
governments or entities spend time and energy to try to dig the plane there
and come out with nothing, they will be hold accountable for that, but you
can just say "Oops ..." That is why Malaysia's news conference becomes so
important for the whole rescue process, everything from the conference is
with certain legal power, and they are, and should be the sole authority on
this!
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: I didn't.
: If you ask Inmarsat, you get first hand information.
: When you ask Malaysia, you will get second hand information.
: So why would you want to go after Malaysia for second hand information?
:
: out
: to
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 26 when it's released to Malaysia, it became public information.
yes you can keep pounding on Malaysian government for accurate information
while you clear know it doesn't own it.
yes Malaysia bears legal responsibilities. but that doesn't give you a good
reason to bang your head against a wall.
it's more like self-abusive behavior.
there
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Ｄid you just say Inmarsat published the info to public domain before it
: told Malaysia, so why you are so sure Chinese government received 2nd info
: on this matter?
: The reason people go after Malaysia for CONFIRMED info is because Malaysia
: bears legal responsibility at this moment. Anyone can publish his guesses,
: assumptions, calculations, and even his assertions onto public domain.
: However, he does not have legal liability. You may declare with 100%
: sureness that the plane is at the bottom of Atlantic ocean, if some
: governments or entities spend time and energy to try to dig the plane there
: and come out with nothing, they will be hold accountable for that, but you
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 27 This is your own words:
"When it was released to Malaysia, it has ALREADY come out to public domain."
Second, did you just start this thread talking about what responsibilities
Malaysia shoulder? Durrrr?
good
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: when it's released to Malaysia, it became public information.
: yes you can keep pounding on Malaysian government for accurate information
: while you clear know it doesn't own it.
: yes Malaysia bears legal responsibilities. but that doesn't give you a good
: reason to bang your head against a wall.
: it's more like self-abusive behavior.
:
: there
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g****t
发帖数: 2751 | 28 关键丫最后下最后结论也是屁证据没有， 尼玛这个操蛋的政府应该被核平 |
w*******y
发帖数: 582 | 29 you are going for linguistic tricks.
That's fine in legal paper, but sounds silly in everyday living.
domain."
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: This is your own words:
: "When it was released to Malaysia, it has ALREADY come out to public domain."
: Second, did you just start this thread talking about what responsibilities
: Malaysia shoulder? Durrrr?
:
: good
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 30 Did Malaysia say that it's not going to compensate?
No.
Does it have the information that your are mostly interested in?
No.
So why the drama queen?
What's the benefit?
domain."
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: This is your own words:
: "When it was released to Malaysia, it has ALREADY come out to public domain."
: Second, did you just start this thread talking about what responsibilities
: Malaysia shoulder? Durrrr?
:
: good
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 31 I do not know that is a grammar issue or typo. I assume he is good at
English and appears so. Btw, even that is a grammar issue does not sustain
the argument that Chinese government knew Inmarsat's discovery as second
hand info, right?
【在 w*******y 的大作中提到】
: you are going for linguistic tricks.
: That's fine in legal paper, but sounds silly in everyday living.
:
: domain."
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 32 You started this thread to talk about what responsibility Malaysia should
have, then we go depth and length on this issue. Your below argument is bit
off the topic you started.
Btw, who is the drama queen, Malaysia or you?
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Did Malaysia say that it's not going to compensate?
: No.
: Does it have the information that your are mostly interested in?
: No.
: So why the drama queen?
: What's the benefit?
:
: domain."
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w*******y
发帖数: 582 | 33 keep doing this in mitbbs, you will be famous.
keep doing this in real world, you will be shunned out even by your children.
So, I just wish you good luck.
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: I do not know that is a grammar issue or typo. I assume he is good at
: English and appears so. Btw, even that is a grammar issue does not sustain
: the argument that Chinese government knew Inmarsat's discovery as second
: hand info, right?
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 34 I'm not the one who is banging head on walls.
I'm just saying it's not good for personal health or China's image to be
dramatic on Malaysia's every move, because we know it's not up to the task.
As for legal responsibilities, yes go ahead and press hard when things clear
up.
Just don't be childish.
bit
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: You started this thread to talk about what responsibility Malaysia should
: have, then we go depth and length on this issue. Your below argument is bit
: off the topic you started.
: Btw, who is the drama queen, Malaysia or you?
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 35 I do not think exploring the responsibility of Malaysia over this tragedy is
banging head on walls, instead this is very critical for the victims'
family and every related parties to pursue compensation and advance their
interests. You started this topic, but seem very resistant to go deep. Why,
is it because you want it be shallow?
clear
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: I'm not the one who is banging head on walls.
: I'm just saying it's not good for personal health or China's image to be
: dramatic on Malaysia's every move, because we know it's not up to the task.
: As for legal responsibilities, yes go ahead and press hard when things clear
: up.
: Just don't be childish.
:
: bit
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 36 do you want to file lawsuit when the search is still ongoing?
yes? go set up a legal team and do some meaningful work.
what do the families need most?
they want to know why, how, when and where.
you think Malaysia can provide that?
is
,
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: I do not think exploring the responsibility of Malaysia over this tragedy is
: banging head on walls, instead this is very critical for the victims'
: family and every related parties to pursue compensation and advance their
: interests. You started this topic, but seem very resistant to go deep. Why,
: is it because you want it be shallow?
:
: clear
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 37 I do not pursue fame here, and I believe you would not. I am just discussing
one topic which I am very interested in seriously. I see your concern about
I am being strict on grammar and lean on it, but do not see why you try to
curse my real life. I think you must be emotionally investing something here
, otherwise this is hard to conceive.
children.
【在 w*******y 的大作中提到】
: keep doing this in mitbbs, you will be famous.
: keep doing this in real world, you will be shunned out even by your children.
: So, I just wish you good luck.
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W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 38 you ask me? Who knows what Malaysia is trying to hide from the general
public? No one knows if or what Malaysia hides.... However, the fact that no
one knows does not guarantee there's really nothing.
You believe what they revealed? only bonehead will do so, too naive.
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Malaysian has information of the plane up to when its military radar has
: last detected it. The pilot's hard drive is under FBI investigation.
: It might dig further on the pilots' background.
: Other than that, Malaysia has no more information to reveal, because it's
: not at the front of the search effort.
: You tell me, what else it might be hiding?
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 39 支持。
真不明白那些人怎么想的给马来洗涤。
why
and
is
currently
its
【在 p******o 的大作中提到】
: Lack of response and action in the first few hours is the biggest reason why
: this is a mess. And continuing to give false, misleading, contradicting and
: nonsense to lead on the victims' family, collaborating governments and
: entities, and even the press is the second biggest wrongdoing. The third is
: the lax control of its airport and boarding practice which poses enormous
: risks to the safety of the air plane. The fourth is the pilots are currently
: the biggest suspects to commit the crimes. Such a long rap sheet details
: what RESPONSIBILITIES you asked.
: Guess what, enormous law suits would come, and Malaysia can kiss goodbye its
: tourism business for a long time.
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 40 我觉得刚好相反。马来这么隐瞒情报都让他没事人一样，中国以后还怎么混？完全一只
纸老虎。试试看这事在越南人身上都比我们要厉害得多。
我们中国的形象不应该是随便被欺负的形象。被踩了也只会忍着的形象。这不是孩子气。
clear
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: I'm not the one who is banging head on walls.
: I'm just saying it's not good for personal health or China's image to be
: dramatic on Malaysia's every move, because we know it's not up to the task.
: As for legal responsibilities, yes go ahead and press hard when things clear
: up.
: Just don't be childish.
:
: bit
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 41 okay you win. continue your freak show.
no
【在 W***o 的大作中提到】
: you ask me? Who knows what Malaysia is trying to hide from the general
: public? No one knows if or what Malaysia hides.... However, the fact that no
: one knows does not guarantee there's really nothing.
: You believe what they revealed? only bonehead will do so, too naive.
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 42 隐瞒啥情报？
气。
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得刚好相反。马来这么隐瞒情报都让他没事人一样，中国以后还怎么混？完全一只
: 纸老虎。试试看这事在越南人身上都比我们要厉害得多。
: 我们中国的形象不应该是随便被欺负的形象。被踩了也只会忍着的形象。这不是孩子气。
:
: clear
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W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 43 haha, you call me a freak? you are such a tard
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: okay you win. continue your freak show.
:
: no
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C*****e
发帖数: 2102 | 44 看前面人家写的。跟马来出来公布的时间比起来：
他们早知道飞机出了问题吧？早知道飞机返航吧？早知道机上是人为关闭通讯吧？早知
道机长不对劲吧？。。。
憋到包不住了才说。浪费人力物力宝贵时间可能的生机还不够混蛋？
难道非得是他们打下来才有责任？
你倒是很善意地把所有的问题都归结为他们沟通不畅。连他们自己都不敢这么说。他们
倒是很快地抛出了两个假护照乘客。看来该说什么不该说什么马来人明白得很。
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 隐瞒啥情报？
:
: 气。
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P*********0
发帖数: 265 | 45 你有点新鲜的没有？
这个我早说过了。失联四个小时才公布当然是重大责任。
假护照登机？当然是重大线索。这个线索一直追查到核实到登记人是谁才放缓了。
庸人自扰。
【在 C*****e 的大作中提到】
: 看前面人家写的。跟马来出来公布的时间比起来：
: 他们早知道飞机出了问题吧？早知道飞机返航吧？早知道机上是人为关闭通讯吧？早知
: 道机长不对劲吧？。。。
: 憋到包不住了才说。浪费人力物力宝贵时间可能的生机还不够混蛋？
: 难道非得是他们打下来才有责任？
: 你倒是很善意地把所有的问题都归结为他们沟通不畅。连他们自己都不敢这么说。他们
: 倒是很快地抛出了两个假护照乘客。看来该说什么不该说什么马来人明白得很。
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n****l
发帖数: 1739 | 46 无能超过一定的限度，就是故意的了。马航的责任不大，因为它听马来政府的。
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 你有点新鲜的没有？
: 这个我早说过了。失联四个小时才公布当然是重大责任。
: 假护照登机？当然是重大线索。这个线索一直追查到核实到登记人是谁才放缓了。
: 庸人自扰。
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