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I******a
发帖数: 3812
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米帝肯定闲不着,不搞叙利亚伊朗,做非洲牌的可能性就增大。
Dempsey's War-Avoidance Includes Both Middle East & China
February 20, 2012 • 8:37AM
The war-avoidence policies being urged and carried out by Gen. Martin
Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, includes China as well
as Southwest Asia, as shown in his full CNN interview.
In addition to calling for restraint with respect to the flash points around
Syria and Iran — in stark contrast to Obama's British-scripted bellicosity
— Dempsey stated that the U.S. military's strategic shift to the Pacific
region provides an opportunity to improve U.S.-China relations. "I think
this is more opportunity than liability to improve our relationship with
China," Dempsey told CNN's Fareed Zakaria, "and I am personally committed to
having that as the outcome, rather than get into an arms race or into some
kind of confrontation with China."
With regard to Syria, as earlier reported, Dempsey said that "it's premature
to take a decision to arm the opposition movement in Syria, because I would
challenge anyone to clearly identify for me the opposition movement in
Syria at this point." After pointing out the involvement of powers such as
Turkey, Russia, and Iran, Dempsey said some also see this as "a Sunni-Shia
competition for regional control, referring to the Iranians and the Saudis,
and he added importantly that "there's indications that Al Qaeda is involved
, and that they're interested in supporting the opposition." And until we
are a lot clearer as to who the opposition is, Dempsey repeated, "it would
be premature to talk about arming them."
The Joint Chiefs Chairman also emphasized that Syria is very different from
Libya; for example, the Syrian military's capabilities are quite different:
"They are very capable. They have a very sophisticated, integrated air-
defense system, for example. They have chemical and biological weapons. Now,
they haven't demonstrated any interest or any intent to use those, but it
is a very different military problem... I think intervening in Syria would
be very difficult."
When questioned about Iran and Israel, Dempsey stressed, as have other U.S.
military officials, that "it's not prudent at this point to decide to attack
Iran," and that this has been the U.S. military's counsel to the Israelis.
Also, Dempsey emphasized that "we also know — or believe we know — that
the Iranian regime has not decided that they will embark on the effort to
weaponize their nuclear capability."
When asked by Zakaria whether the Israelis understand that the United States
is urging them not to strike Iran, and whether he thinks that Israel will
be deterred from striking in the near future, Dempsey responded:
"I'm confident that they understand our concerns, that a strike at this time
would be destabilizing and wouldn't achieve their long-term objectives. But
, I also understand that Israel has national interests that are unique to
them. And, of course, they consider Iran to be an existential threat, in a
way that we have not concluded that Iran is an existential threat. So I
wouldn't suggest, sitting here today, that we've persuaded them that our
view is the correct view, and that they are acting in an ill-advised fashion
, but we've had a very candid, collaborative conversation. We've shared
intelligence. And I was in Israel about three weeks ago and spent two days
there with the senior leaders, and so we are continuing that dialogue."
Zakaria asked, " If you were a betting man, would you bet that Israel won't
strike?" Dempsey deftly answered: "Well, fortunately, I'm not a betting man.
"
l*s
发帖数: 6372
2
我觉得打不打是看以色列啊。
I******a
发帖数: 3812
3
最后两段话显示WASP们跟犹太人立场分歧明显,“"I'm confident that they
understand our concerns, that a strike at this time
would be destabilizing and wouldn't achieve their long-term objectives. But,
I also understand that Israel has national interests that are unique to
them. And, of course, they consider Iran to be an existential threat, in a
way that we have not concluded that Iran is an existential threat. ”
也就是说以色列冒进的话对它自己的长期目标也不利,以色列的国家利益是他们自己特
有的,以色列把伊朗当作一个存在性的威胁而米国并未有此结论。
这个的意思就是,以色列要是强要把米国绑在战车上的话,米国不一定奉陪。
这人是参谋长联席会议主席,就是原来鲍维尔那个脚色,最高军头了。

【在 l*s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得打不打是看以色列啊。
l*s
发帖数: 6372
4
他对打伊拉克阿富汗还有现在撤军啥看法?

But,

【在 I******a 的大作中提到】
: 最后两段话显示WASP们跟犹太人立场分歧明显,“"I'm confident that they
: understand our concerns, that a strike at this time
: would be destabilizing and wouldn't achieve their long-term objectives. But,
: I also understand that Israel has national interests that are unique to
: them. And, of course, they consider Iran to be an existential threat, in a
: way that we have not concluded that Iran is an existential threat. ”
: 也就是说以色列冒进的话对它自己的长期目标也不利,以色列的国家利益是他们自己特
: 有的,以色列把伊朗当作一个存在性的威胁而米国并未有此结论。
: 这个的意思就是,以色列要是强要把米国绑在战车上的话,米国不一定奉陪。
: 这人是参谋长联席会议主席,就是原来鲍维尔那个脚色,最高军头了。

I******a
发帖数: 3812
5
看上去他还是倾向于代理人管理. 至少在阿富汗,还是主张地方军队接管,因为地形复
杂,米军无法全面巡逻。
http://www.rusi.org/analysis/commentary/ref:C4E302EEB3525C/
下面这段话挺有意思,除了批评牛仔作风,又非常委婉地批评米军权利下放的效果。实
际上他是说军队的去中心化让下面那帮低级军官得到了跟自己能力不相称的权利。
http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/07/27/dempsey_on_two_

【在 l*s 的大作中提到】
: 他对打伊拉克阿富汗还有现在撤军啥看法?
:
: But,

M*****8
发帖数: 17722
6

around
bellicosity
难说。
一般越是打算突袭,
越必须制造假象惑敌。
当年盟军登陆诺曼底,
就预先用心良苦的误导。

【在 I******a 的大作中提到】
: 米帝肯定闲不着,不搞叙利亚伊朗,做非洲牌的可能性就增大。
: Dempsey's War-Avoidance Includes Both Middle East & China
: February 20, 2012 • 8:37AM
: The war-avoidence policies being urged and carried out by Gen. Martin
: Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, includes China as well
: as Southwest Asia, as shown in his full CNN interview.
: In addition to calling for restraint with respect to the flash points around
: Syria and Iran — in stark contrast to Obama's British-scripted bellicosity
: — Dempsey stated that the U.S. military's strategic shift to the Pacific
: region provides an opportunity to improve U.S.-China relations. "I think

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