s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 1 他娘的， 把涉及机密的那部分不公开不就行了， 难道其他已经公布的各部委就一点机
密都没有？真是扯淡。
这个头一开， 以后其他各部位都可以以国家机密来做幌子， 拒绝正常的百姓知情权。 | L*****G
发帖数: 12375 | 2 支持。这个可以公布总数其实，没啥秘密可言。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 他娘的， 把涉及机密的那部分不公开不就行了， 难道其他已经公布的各部委就一点机
: 密都没有？真是扯淡。
: 这个头一开， 以后其他各部位都可以以国家机密来做幌子， 拒绝正常的百姓知情权。
| s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 3 正是， 你可以公开总数， 细节不公开也可以啊。
真tmd扯淡。
【在 L*****G 的大作中提到】
: 支持。这个可以公布总数其实，没啥秘密可言。
| C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 4 我怀疑很大一部分钱用来收买分化当地人士。这个一传出来他们和被收买的人就彻底臭
大街了。 | k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 5 老大，米国外交部，情报部门的也是机密。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 他娘的， 把涉及机密的那部分不公开不就行了， 难道其他已经公布的各部委就一点机
: 密都没有？真是扯淡。
: 这个头一开， 以后其他各部位都可以以国家机密来做幌子， 拒绝正常的百姓知情权。
| s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 6 完全公布情报机关经费是不现实， 但是你可以将机密部分剔除， 只公布非机密部分的
经费啊。 或者只公布总数不讲细节。
us也存在是否公布CIA budget的争论， 官司现在还在打。
Official Reveals Budget for U.S. Intelligence
By SCOTT SHANE
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 - In an apparent slip, a top American intelligence
official has revealed at a public conference what has long been secret: the
amount of money the United States spends on its spy agencies.
At an intelligence conference in San Antonio last week, Mary Margaret Graham
, a 27-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency and now the deputy
director of national intelligence for collection, said the annual
intelligence budget was $44 billion.
The number was reported Monday in U.S. News and World Report, whose national
security reporter, Kevin Whitelaw, was among the hundreds of people in
attendance during Ms. Graham's talk.
"I thought, 'I can't believe she said that,' " Mr. Whitelaw said on Monday.
"The government has spent so much time and energy arguing that it needs to
remain classified."
The figure itself comes as no great shock; most news reports in the last
couple of years have estimated the budget at $40 billion. But the fact that
Ms. Graham would say it in public is a surprise, because the government has
repeatedly gone to court to keep the current intelligence budget and even
past budgets as far back as the 1940's from being disclosed.
Carl Kropf, a spokesman for the office of the director of national
intelligence, John D. Negroponte, said Ms. Graham would not comment. Mr.
Kropf declined to say whether the figure, which Ms. Graham gave last Monday
at an annual conference on intelligence gathered from satellite and other
photographs, was accurate, or whether her revelation was accidental.
Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the
Federation of American Scientists, expressed amused satisfaction that the
budget figure had slipped out.
"It is ironic," Mr. Aftergood said. "We sued the C.I.A. four times for this
kind of information and lost. You can't get it through legal channels."
Only for a few past years has the budget been disclosed. After Mr. Aftergood
's group first sued for the budget figure under the Freedom of Information
Act in 1997, George J. Tenet, then the director of central intelligence,
decided to make public that year's budget, $26.6 billion. The next year Mr.
Tenet did the same, revealing that the 1998 fiscal year budget was $26.7
billion.
But in 1999, Mr. Tenet reversed that policy, and budgets since then have
remained classified with the support of the courts. Last year, a federal
judge refused to order the C.I.A. to release its budget totals for 1947 to
1970 - except for the 1963 budget, which Mr. Aftergood showed had already
been revealed elsewhere.
In court and in response to inquiries, intelligence officials have argued
that disclosing the total spying budget would create pressure to reveal more
spending details, and that such revelations could aid the nation's
adversaries.
That argument has been rejected by many members of Congress and outside
experts, who note that most of the Defense Department budget is published in
exhaustive detail without evident harm.
The national commission on the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001,
recommended that both the overall intelligence budget and spending by
individual agencies be made public "in order to combat the secrecy and
complexity" it found was harming national security.
"The taxpayers deserve to know what they're spending for intelligence," said
Lee H. Hamilton, the former congressman who was vice chairman of the
commission.
Even more important, Mr. Hamilton said, public discussion of the total
budgets of intelligence agencies would encourage Congress to exercise "
robust oversight."
The debate over whether the intelligence budget should be secret dates to at
least the 1970's, said Loch K. Johnson, an intelligence historian who
worked for the Church Committee investigation of the intelligence agencies
by the Senate in the mid-1970's. Mr. Johnson said the real reason for
secrecy might have less to do with protecting intelligence sources and
methods than with protecting the bureaucracy.
"Maybe there's a fear that if the American people knew what was being spent
on intelligence, they'd be even more upset at intelligence failures," Mr.
Johnson said.
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 老大，米国外交部，情报部门的也是机密。
| C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 7 美国政府在外交系统的黑幕和溃败在Wikileaks中被揭露了很多。可见这种不透明本质
上只会助长邪
恶，危害国家和人民的利益！
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 老大，米国外交部，情报部门的也是机密。
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