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p*****i
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美国内部也出五毛了, 呵呵
美国《福布斯》网站1月24日发表了肖恩-赖因的一篇文章认为,奥巴马和美国可以向中
国领导人和中国学习执政经验。
http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/24/barack-obama-china-hu-jintao-p

原题为“奥巴马和美国应向中国学习”的文章称,有关中国抵御金融危机远比美国
出色的话题,一直被广为谈论。许多人说这归功于北京制度。但美国的制度未必沦落,
中国的崛起也不应被视为对我们核心价值的威胁。任何政治体系须放在几十年而非几个
月的背景下考察。不过,奥巴马和美国可以向中国领导人和中国学习执政经验。

文章认为,虽并非直接民选,但中国领导人十分顺应民意。当问题酝酿时,他们很
快就发布声明和新法规。怀疑者说这样做是因害怕政权不保,不是出于真正的人道主义
。但事实上,不管出发点是什么,中国领导人基本上会倾听民意。从行为上看,他们关
心百姓疾苦。比如中国政府对房价和物价的调控。

文章还说,美国的政治体制越来越不为多数人着想,而是代表少数利益集团。就拿
荒唐可笑的枪支法来说。我们的民选官员慑于国家步枪协会的势力,不愿采取措施满足
大多数美国人限制武器扩散的愿望。类似的,多数美国人都知道,我们面临的问题源自
华尔街的所作所为,但官员们不愿触犯高盛和摩根大通那些有钱的主。他们想要选举献
金,且生怕日后离任时没有捞钱的好去处。奥巴马及政治精英必须向中国学习,开始为
多数人的利益着想,不要被刻薄的评论家或少数有钱人左右。不然,我们的制度就算不
上真正的民主,

文章表示,北京通过软实力塑造友善形象,推动经济增长并创造就业机会。中国为
一些非洲国家领导人的孩子在华留学提供奖学金,就像当年英国人拉拢殖民地精英一样
。反观美国,对朝鲜半岛和南中国海事务表态越来越激烈,军费开支有增无减,尽管对
国民经济好处有限。中国的军事投入立刻回流经济,而我们的钱大多进入巴基斯坦、阿
富汗和其他问题国家腐败官员的腰包。

文章指出,别国看到美国对伊阿动武,于是对华盛顿言听计从,这不是因为他们跟
我们志同道合,而是害怕遭攻打。这样的盟友不可能持久。软实力辅以强大的军力,将
更为可行,中国人就是这样做的。如果美国能从中国增长的成败中汲取经验,那美国国
力定能提升,继续成为灯塔。
/来自中华网社区 club.china.com/
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原文:
http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/24/barack-obama-china-hu-jintao-p
What Obama And America Should Learn From China
Shaun Rein, 01.24.11, 12:15 PM EST
There are ways in which Hu Jintao is being wiser than us.

More from Shaun Rein
There has been much discussion lately of how China survived the financial
crisis much more robustly than the United States. Many credit Beijing's
centralized power structure, which Sen. Harry Reid mistakenly (and foolishly
) calls a dictatorship under President Hu Jintao. Political scientist
Francis Fukuyama recently wrote that China's command system allows for a
fast response to problems while America gets bogged down in partisan turf
wars. In a shocking turnaround, Fukuyama even now argues that he was wrong
to say democracy is the only path forward. You know Americans are
questioning their core values when Fukuyama says that.
It is true that China's system can quickly push through changes like health
care reforms while America's remains in gridlock. However, America should
absolutely not move toward any kind of command structure for short-term gain
. In the longterm, the checks and balances of a democracy are needed to
prevent tyrants from rising and to ensure creative thought. Yes, President
Hu is focused on improving human rights and has the support of the Chinese
people, but who is to say that will remain the case in five decades under
other leaders?
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Yahoo! BuzzNo, the American way is not in definite decline, nor should China
's rise be seen as a threat to our core values. Any political system must be
viewed in the context of decades, not mere months. However, there are
definite lessons in governance that President Obama and the U.S. can learn
from President Hu and China to help get America's mojo back.
First, although China's leaders are not elected democratically, they are (
contrary to what many Americans believe) very attuned to public opinion.
When trouble brews, they issue statements and new laws quickly. Skeptics say
they do this because they fear being overthrown and executed, like former
Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, rather than from true humanitarianism.
Whatever their motivations, China's leaders do in fact for the most part
listen to the will of the people. Of course, they can't always fix problems
immediately, but they do show that they care about the wants of ordinary
folks.
For example, our research suggests that two of the greatest concerns of
ordinary Chinese are rising real estate prices and food costs. Leaders show
they are addressing these worries by regularly announcing how much square
footage of new low-income housing is about to come onto the market or is
under construction, and they use taxation to force real estate developers
through to product affordable units. Likewise they put price controls on
food for low income families, or exempt farmers from road tolls.
America's political system, on the other hand, is increasingly beholden not
to the wants of the majority but to minority special interest groups that
hijack the national discourse. Take for instance our absurd gun laws. Our
elected officials are so scared about the power of the National Rifle
Association that no one is willing to take it on and do what most Americans
want--limit the proliferation of weapons like the one Jared Loughner used in
Tuscon. Somehow we can regulate how high shrubs should be or how often
someone needs to shovel snow in front of a building, but not how safe our
streets should be, because of the outsized power of a minority.
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Whether it is dictatorship or democracy, the key for success is leadership
quality. Democracy just make the citizens feel better but it has little to
do with success.
Read All Comments (3)Post a CommentSimilarly, Wall Street needs a major
overhaul along the lines of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1932 to avoid excess
risk and leverage in the system. Most Americans know that the problems we
face started with behavior on Wall Street, yet our officials are unwilling
to go against the deep pockets of executives from Goldman Sachs ( GS - news
- people ) and JPMorgan Chase ( JPM - news - people ) to make the changes
that are needed. They want election dollars, and they don't want to risk
losing out on a lucrative post-government career, like former Obama advisor
Peter Orszag's with Citigroup ( C - news - people ) or Dick Cheney's with
Halliburton ( HAL - news - people ).
Obama and our political elite need to learn from China to start representing
the needs of the majority, not of the shrillest commentators on Fox News or
the deep pocketed few. Until then we will have not a true democracy, but a
system that is stacked against the majority.
Finally, President Hu has repeatedly said that no country should be worried
about China's rising power, despite its increased investment in its military
. He has focused on creating goodwill with soft power while investing in the
military to create economic growth and jobs. He came to the U.S. and signed
$45 billion worth of contracts with companies like Boeing ( BA - news -
people ), and he visited Chicago because of its public school program to
teach thousands of students Mandarin Chinese. China is giving the children
of African leaders scholarships to study in China, much as the British co-
opted local elite in the colonial period by getting their kids to study at
Eton and Oxford.
What Obama And America Should Learn From China
Shaun Rein, 01.24.11, 12:15 PM EST
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In contrast, America's rhetoric concerning the Korean peninsula and South
China Sea is getting more heated, and its military spending is going up
rather than down, despite its limited economic benefit for the country.
China's military spending goes right back into the economy, while ours goes
largely to corrupt officials in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other dubious
regimes. America is spending 10 times more than China on its military, and
that doesn't even include the costs of running our ongoing wars in different
countries.
Aware of how America is willing to use military power in Afghanistan or Iraq
, other nations bend to its will not because they are aligned ideologically
but because they fear being attacked. That is no way to create long-term
allies. Soft power backed by strong military capability, as the Chinese are
pursuing, is the better approach, both economically and humanistically.
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Yahoo! BuzzIn today's difficult economic situation, we are right to question
our core values. However, reports of America's inevitable decline greatly
exaggerate the problems we face. By its nature the American system will run
into bumps, and sometimes serious ones. Yet if the U.S. continues to evolve
and can learn from some of the successes and failures of China's growth, the
nation will be sure to increase its strength and continue to be a beacon
for oppressed peoples.
Shaun Rein is the founder and managing director of the China Market Research
Group, a strategic market intelligence firm. He writes for Forbes on
leadership, marketing and China. Follow him on Twitter at @shaunrein.
p*****i
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我的天, 奥巴马和美国可以向中国领导人和中国学习执政经验?
这个算天朝输出先进文化价值观念了吧?
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深海同志:辛苦了, 呵呵
“奥巴马及政治精英必须向中国学习,开始为多数人的利益着想,不要被刻薄的评论家
或少数有钱人左右。类似的,多数美国人都知道,我们面临的问题源自华尔街的所作所
为,但官员们不愿触犯高盛和摩根大通那些有钱的主。他们想要选举献金,且生怕日后
离任时没有捞钱的好去处?”
u**b
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从行为上看,他们关心百姓疾苦。比如中国政府对房价和物价的调控。
仰天长笑

【在 p*****i 的大作中提到】
: 美国内部也出五毛了, 呵呵
: 美国《福布斯》网站1月24日发表了肖恩-赖因的一篇文章认为,奥巴马和美国可以向中
: 国领导人和中国学习执政经验。
: http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/24/barack-obama-china-hu-jintao-p
:
: 原题为“奥巴马和美国应向中国学习”的文章称,有关中国抵御金融危机远比美国
: 出色的话题,一直被广为谈论。许多人说这归功于北京制度。但美国的制度未必沦落,
: 中国的崛起也不应被视为对我们核心价值的威胁。任何政治体系须放在几十年而非几个
: 月的背景下考察。不过,奥巴马和美国可以向中国领导人和中国学习执政经验。
:

t******z
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像消弱华尔街对政治的影响的办法是有的,那就是分权选举为两权。人民的投票只管留
罢不管选人。人民只看具体出现的事情看此人是否应该留任,而不管谁来填补空缺,于
是也不需要竞选宣传经费
p*****i
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呵呵, 我这个五毛看了都替党妈妈感到脸红, 呵呵, 这可不是我说的

【在 u**b 的大作中提到】
: 从行为上看,他们关心百姓疾苦。比如中国政府对房价和物价的调控。
: 仰天长笑

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