a****1
发帖数: 654 | 1 今天参考消息转载简氏防务周刊网站的报道。中航工业以L15投标美国空军下一代军用
教练机项目，与韩国/洛马的T50、英国的隼、意大利的M346竞争美国空军取代过时的
T38C教练机的项目，合同价值100亿美元。另外中航直升机的AC313也投标美国海军的直
升机项目。
简氏防务的链接：http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jdi/jdi110124_1_n.shtml
Briefing: China set to bid on major US aerospace programmes
By Jon Grevatt
24 January 2011
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Chinese President Hu Jintao's high-profile visit to the US looks set to be
followed by ambitious bids from China to supply platforms to meet two major
US military aircraft procurement programmes.
State-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) is preparing
proposals, in partnership with existing partner US aviation services group
US Aerospace (USAE), to bid for the US Navy's VXX helicopter programme and
the US Air Force T-X project to procure advanced jet trainers (AJT).
A lawyer who represents USAE in its dealings with AVIC, John C Kirkland – a
partner at California law firm Luce Forward -–revealed to Jane's on 21
January that in both proposals AVIC would supply what would be regarded as
civilian aircraft platforms that would be upgraded in the US with military
avionics and, in the case of the T-X, a fire control system. Such
manufacturing programmes would be facilitated under a USAE-AVIC strategic
partnership that was formed in September 2010.
VXX
In the VXX programme, which was revived by Washington in February 2010 after
being cancelled in 2009 because of cost overruns, the partnership are
planning to bid with AVIC's 13-tonne AC-313 medium-lift transport helicopter
, which is principally designed for civilian use. In the T-X programme, the
bid would focus on AVIC's twin-engine L-15 Falcon AJT. In addition, USAE and
AVIC are planning to market the Chinese-produced C919 jet airliner in the
US as a business jet as well as a regional aircraft.
The VXX programme is worth about USD6 billion and, if USAE-AVIC bids for the
contract, it is likely to be up against the AgustaWestland AW101 and the
Sikorsky S-92 medium-lift helicopters. The USN is expected to procure more
than 20 platforms to replace the existing Sikorsky VH-3 and VH-60
helicopters from around 2017. | d*****l
发帖数: 8441 | | a****1
发帖数: 654 | 3 (Zt)很多讨论
1) L-15的售价为M346的1/2，T-50的1/3。。。连L-15都嫌贵的话，MD就甭想要新高级
教练机了。
2)L15技术上的亮点是：参与投标的唯一的超音速双发教练机。中航与美国厂商合作，
比如换装美制发动机（IDF的那款就合适）和航电，有钱大家赚，补偿贸易，不是没有
中标的希望。
3)如果美国能详细描述标书内容，其实对我军舰载教练机的发展有很大好处
4)L15的最大竞争对手应该是韩国的T50，而且T50基本是美国洛克希德 马丁公司设计的，发动机和航电也都是美国产品，两国公司的利益是绑在一起的。在政治关系上韩国是美国的半殖民地国家，老大自然要罩着小弟。但是T50作为教练机的不足是它是一种单发教练机，USAF用了几十年的T38是一种双发教练机，双发机的可靠性比单发机要高很多，军队都是讲传统的。L15与美国厂家合作，换TFE-1042发动机和美国航电，从技术上讲还是很有竞争力的，L15是投标教练机中唯一的一种双发超音速高级教练机！，作为美空军T38C教练机的后继者很合适，T38C就是一款双发超音速教练机。L15价格上也应该很有竞争力。
5)从两国的政治关系而言，这事成事的难度太大了，美国国内右翼非得闹翻天不可，这帮人是最讲政治的。中航必须找准美国的合作伙伴，把两家的利益绑在一起。反之，如果这事真成了，则是一个里程碑式的事件，两国政治关系的巨大突破，说明G2，地球的和谐时代来临了。Nothing is impossible.
【在 a****1 的大作中提到】
: 今天参考消息转载简氏防务周刊网站的报道。中航工业以L15投标美国空军下一代军用
: 教练机项目，与韩国/洛马的T50、英国的隼、意大利的M346竞争美国空军取代过时的
: T38C教练机的项目，合同价值100亿美元。另外中航直升机的AC313也投标美国海军的直
: 升机项目。
: 简氏防务的链接：http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jdi/jdi110124_1_n.shtml
: Briefing: China set to bid on major US aerospace programmes
: By Jon Grevatt
: 24 January 2011
: Article Tools Full Article for Subscribers
: Product Homepage
| t******t
发帖数: 15246 | 4 以锻炼投标队伍为任务吧，无论从哪个角度考虑，即使从美国人的自尊心出发，也不可
能从中航买飞机 | g*******d
发帖数: 5873 | 5 还有,顺便一帮人来美国旅游
【在 t******t 的大作中提到】
: 以锻炼投标队伍为任务吧，无论从哪个角度考虑，即使从美国人的自尊心出发，也不可
: 能从中航买飞机
| c****h
发帖数: 4968 | 6 这个也就是宣传一下吧。美国是不可能把军工outsource给中国的。国内的茶党红脖子
不革命才怪。 | y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 7 给自己做广告用的
【在 c****h 的大作中提到】
: 这个也就是宣传一下吧。美国是不可能把军工outsource给中国的。国内的茶党红脖子
: 不革命才怪。
| H********o
发帖数: 3625 | |
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