w****2
发帖数: 12072 | 1 http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
reforms in China.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
and had criticized proponents for more sweeping changes.
“In my observation, the Nobel Peace Prize is going to Liu because he is
different from the majority of people in opposition. He made more gestures
of cooperation with the government and made more criticism of other
resisters who suffered,” Wei told AFP in Washington, where he lives in
exile.
While China has denounced the Nobel committee, Wei said that Beijing’s
criticism was comparatively low-key.
“That might be the main reason that the Norwegians were finally able to
withstand the pressure,” Wei said.
Wei said that the Nobel would help Liu leave jail earlier and raise the
profile of moderate reformists, in the process encouraging Chinese to work
within the system.
“Unless the political system of the Chinese government is indeed heading
for a peaceful evolution, political stability would serve to consolidate the
one-party dictatorship and be negative to both reformists and
revolutionaries,” he said.
Wei said there were “tens of thousands” of Chinese who would deserve the
Nobel Peace Prize including Hu Jia, a jailed advocate for AIDS patients,
Chen Guangcheng, who exposed corruption in the one-child policy, and missing
human rights lawyer Gao Zhisheng.
Wei himself has been tipped for the Nobel Peace Prize in the past.
A former electrician at the Beijing zoo, Wei rose to prominence after leader
Mao Zedong died in 1976 and the government encouraged Chinese to put up
posters airing grievances about past excesses.
Wei boldly put up a poster urging democracy and signed his name to it. He
spent a total of 18 years in prison, partially on death row, until an appeal
by then US president Bill Clinton allowed him to go into exile. |
T*R
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c******k
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m**********2
发帖数: 6568 | 4 "That award, should be mine! Mine! Mine!"
him
academic
democratic
calls
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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l******e
发帖数: 12192 | 5 不跟老和尚套磁，土了吧
him
academic
democratic
calls
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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t*****k
发帖数: 2547 | 6
【在 m**********2 的大作中提到】
: "That award, should be mine! Mine! Mine!"
:
: him
: academic
: democratic
: calls
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c****g
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f****e
发帖数: 24964 | 8 魏电工是很冤，坐牢时没几个人知道，坐完牢也没每个奖赏，苦算是白受了 |
l******e
发帖数: 12192 | 9 看刘的自述，电工那时候的牢饭远不如现在
亏大了
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】
: 魏电工是很冤，坐牢时没几个人知道，坐完牢也没每个奖赏，苦算是白受了
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h*****p
发帖数: 2638 | 10 接到美国享受民主的阳光了，刘晓波还在专制的国家呢！
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】
: 魏电工是很冤，坐牢时没几个人知道，坐完牢也没每个奖赏，苦算是白受了
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z****g
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O****X
发帖数: 24292 | 12 没博士头衔，烂泥扶不上壁
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】
: 魏电工是很冤，坐牢时没几个人知道，坐完牢也没每个奖赏，苦算是白受了
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O*******d
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t*****M
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k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 15 机遇啊机遇。魏电工是和大波波那个工人瓦文萨同代，电工也坐了几年牢；可惜邓同学
那时是美国和西欧的盟友，正在收拾苏联小兄弟越南，电工牢白坐了。相反，瓦文萨反
共也反苏，于是nobel拿到手了。
魏电工很亏啊。 |
w****2
发帖数: 12072 | 16 hehe
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 机遇啊机遇。魏电工是和大波波那个工人瓦文萨同代，电工也坐了几年牢；可惜邓同学
: 那时是美国和西欧的盟友，正在收拾苏联小兄弟越南，电工牢白坐了。相反，瓦文萨反
: 共也反苏，于是nobel拿到手了。
: 魏电工很亏啊。
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k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 17 电工太惨了，瓦文萨nobel奖，总统，也就忍了。可电工和土工斗争时候，一半欧洲还
是红色的，那个斗争多难啊。那时好像还有“反革命罪”。他丫坐监狱时，刘晓波不过
一个毫不出名的文学愤青。
这次这个奖，电工总也分点啊，150万美刀啊。 |
f****e
发帖数: 24964 | 18 就是啊，刘晓波坐牢很多人都把他当英雄。魏电工坐牢时，可能大多数人还真的认为他
是反革命，是国家的敌人，和袁崇焕一样冤啊
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 电工太惨了，瓦文萨nobel奖，总统，也就忍了。可电工和土工斗争时候，一半欧洲还
: 是红色的，那个斗争多难啊。那时好像还有“反革命罪”。他丫坐监狱时，刘晓波不过
: 一个毫不出名的文学愤青。
: 这次这个奖，电工总也分点啊，150万美刀啊。
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b****g
发帖数: 4933 | 19 切，电工其实是穿越的，不过穿早了
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】
: 就是啊，刘晓波坐牢很多人都把他当英雄。魏电工坐牢时，可能大多数人还真的认为他
: 是反革命，是国家的敌人，和袁崇焕一样冤啊
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t*****k
发帖数: 2547 | 20
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】
: 魏电工是很冤，坐牢时没几个人知道，坐完牢也没每个奖赏，苦算是白受了
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g*******d
发帖数: 5873 | 21 呵呵，海外民运真是烂泥扶不上墙
him
academic
democratic
calls
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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m*t
发帖数: 7490 | 22 对于现在的“民运领袖”们来说，最重要的是要尽快干掉刘晓波、嫁祸共产党。
一举多得，好处大大的！ 很严肃的说 |
m*****5
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z***o
发帖数: 1254 | 24 此时此刻最不好受的不是TG， 而是电工。 丫1979年就开始坐牢，坐了20年，那时候土
鳖的牢饭可比现在差多了，这丫在牢里就把胃切了一大半。这回倒好，刘晓波今年才进
去， 当年就Nobel了，这让电工情何以堪嘛。电工可能很后悔出国投奔自由了， 否则
哪有刘晓波什么事啊。 |
k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 25 对洋大人来说，有没有文化，是不是精英不重要。大波波的瓦文萨也是个工人。去年提
名的热比亚也是个半文盲。
魏电工不幸生活在中美的蜜月期，当然拿不到奖了。只是这次电工不能分享，对他有点
不公平。毕竟中国的所谓民运，是电工开始的。100多万美刀不说了，也影响电工将来
的历史定位。当然，要云云们能够成为胜利者再谈历史定位。 |
z***o
发帖数: 1254 | 26 今年的奖给了中国， 按常理再要有另一个中国人获和平奖需要过一定年头， 从达赖到
刘晓波用了21年。 电工的悲哀之处在于丫的反抗TG暴政的事迹已经凝固了，不再
developping不会再次出现高潮了， 所以这次丫拿不到奖，估计以后机会不多了。 现
在革命老将前赴后继，走地鸡.王还有千元大妹子都是ivy出身，革命前辈魏电工迟早被拍死在沙滩上。丫已经6张了。 |
t*****k
发帖数: 2547 | 27
被拍死在沙滩上。丫已经6张了。
【在 z***o 的大作中提到】
: 今年的奖给了中国， 按常理再要有另一个中国人获和平奖需要过一定年头， 从达赖到
: 刘晓波用了21年。 电工的悲哀之处在于丫的反抗TG暴政的事迹已经凝固了，不再
: developping不会再次出现高潮了， 所以这次丫拿不到奖，估计以后机会不多了。 现
: 在革命老将前赴后继，走地鸡.王还有千元大妹子都是ivy出身，革命前辈魏电工迟早被拍死在沙滩上。丫已经6张了。
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q*d
发帖数: 22178 | 28 电工得过不少次提名,
杨振宁文集里还有个帖子,
说是反对魏电工拿和平奖
him
academic
democratic
calls
the
missing
leader
appeal
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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b*********d
发帖数: 3539 | 29 你给委员会再写封信，说让电工和wavelet一起拿奖吧
【在 q*d 的大作中提到】
: 电工得过不少次提名,
: 杨振宁文集里还有个帖子,
: 说是反对魏电工拿和平奖
:
: him
: academic
: democratic
: calls
: the
: missing
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q*d
发帖数: 22178 | 30 电工这人素质太低,
民运得一和平奖,怎么也是重大胜利,
该举杯相庆,精诚团结才是.
丫居然比TG还嫉妒,真他妈没前途
【在 b*********d 的大作中提到】
: 你给委员会再写封信，说让电工和wavelet一起拿奖吧
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p****p
发帖数: 3360 | 31 你算是说到点上了.
"投奔"两字就显示出王者与否的差别了. 同样的道理，LeBron James一旦投奔迈阿密，
他的身价立马下降90%。
【在 z***o 的大作中提到】
: 今年的奖给了中国， 按常理再要有另一个中国人获和平奖需要过一定年头， 从达赖到
: 刘晓波用了21年。 电工的悲哀之处在于丫的反抗TG暴政的事迹已经凝固了，不再
: developping不会再次出现高潮了， 所以这次丫拿不到奖，估计以后机会不多了。 现
: 在革命老将前赴后继，走地鸡.王还有千元大妹子都是ivy出身，革命前辈魏电工迟早被拍死在沙滩上。丫已经6张了。
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b*********d
发帖数: 3539 | 32 说得跟处女vs二婚似的
【在 p****p 的大作中提到】
: 你算是说到点上了.
: "投奔"两字就显示出王者与否的差别了. 同样的道理，LeBron James一旦投奔迈阿密，
: 他的身价立马下降90%。
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b*********d
发帖数: 3539 | 33 刘是个拿钱立牌坊的，电工是个带把儿就嫁的
【在 p****p 的大作中提到】
: 你算是说到点上了.
: "投奔"两字就显示出王者与否的差别了. 同样的道理，LeBron James一旦投奔迈阿密，
: 他的身价立马下降90%。
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a********y
发帖数: 1262 | 34 re
him
academic
democratic
calls
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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t*********h
发帖数: 34 | 35 我不觉得电工是出于私情，刘晓波是想被朝廷找安，属于宋江，电工看透了土工属于吴
广。 |
F*****t
发帖数: 2580 | 36 TG嫉妒个啥啊
TG现在就认钱
谁得都行，反正TG要抽税的
【在 q*d 的大作中提到】
: 电工这人素质太低,
: 民运得一和平奖,怎么也是重大胜利,
: 该举杯相庆,精诚团结才是.
: 丫居然比TG还嫉妒,真他妈没前途
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 37 不管怎么样，小波和胡团团同呼吸共命运 － 呼吸的都是北京黑乎乎的空气。
【在 h*****p 的大作中提到】
: 接到美国享受民主的阳光了，刘晓波还在专制的国家呢！
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 38 狗咬狗，一嘴毛啊。
him
academic
democratic
calls
【在 w****2 的大作中提到】
: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/October/international_October330.xml§ion=international
: Senior Chinese dissident criticizes Liu Nobel
: WASHINGTON — A senior figure in China’s democracy movement said Friday
: that others deserved the Nobel Peace Prize more than Liu Xiaobo, calling him
: a moderate willing to work with Beijing.
: The Nobel committee gave the prestigious prize to Liu, a writer and academic
: who was jailed in December 2009 after co-writing a manifesto for democratic
: reforms in China.
: Wei Jingsheng, who spent nearly two decades in prison for his stinging calls
: for democracy in China, said Liu had often been allowed to operate freely
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