A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 1 Sir William Osler said "Listen to the patient, they will tell you the
diagnosis."
Yogi Berra said "You can see a lot by looking." and he also said ""You can
hear a lot by listening."
More than a century ago, Louis Pasteur said, “Chance favors only the
prepared mind.”
A++说:没有证据一切都是浮云。 lol
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L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 2
嗯,这个题目好. 能不能具体说说相关感受?
类似第一句的: “80% of a diagnosis comes from history, 10% from physical
exam, 10% from labs” . 这是我OB过的两个家庭医生说的。是不是可用于当代
hospital medicine,有待商榷。
巴斯德那句简直就是人生圭臬了。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Sir William Osler said "Listen to the patient, they will tell you the : diagnosis." : Yogi Berra said "You can see a lot by looking." and he also said ""You can : hear a lot by listening." : More than a century ago, Louis Pasteur said, “Chance favors only the : prepared mind.” : A++说:没有证据一切都是浮云。 lol : 能不能跟大家share your favorite?
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L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 3 我个人有切肤之感的:
1。“Don’t jump, pls.” Said by Ms B, and my residency mentor.
2. 上工治未病。
3。急则治标、缓则治本。
4。用药如用兵。
5。“Life is short, art is long”- 希波革拉底
6。 “The good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the
patient who has the disease” - Sir William Osler
(Similar one: “It is much more important to know what sort of a patient
has a disease than what sort of a disease a patient has.” - Same person)
7。“He who studies medicine without books sails an uncharted sea, but he
who studies medicine without patients does not go to sea at all.” - Sir
William Osler
8。One of the first duties of the physician is to educate the masses not to
take medicine”- Sir William Osler
9. Don’t presume anything. - my residency mentor
10. Common things common. - my residency mentor
(Similar one: “Zebra runs at the tail of the alphabet” – my residency
mentor’s desciple) |
L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 4
“除四书外,杜撰的太多,偏只我是杜撰不成”。- 宝GG
所以:
:“除Guideline外,浮云的太多,偏只我是浮云不成”。- 宝GG
LOL
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Sir William Osler said "Listen to the patient, they will tell you the : diagnosis." : Yogi Berra said "You can see a lot by looking." and he also said ""You can : hear a lot by listening." : More than a century ago, Louis Pasteur said, “Chance favors only the : prepared mind.” : A++说:没有证据一切都是浮云。 lol : 能不能跟大家share your favorite?
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 5 I don't think you can quantify the history, the PE and the labs. What about
a patient coming in coma w/o any history?
相关感受真是很多, 每天看病人, 时时刻刻牢记着。
“巴斯德那句简直就是人生圭臬了。” 希望每个医生都有此共识。
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : : “除四书外,杜撰的太多,偏只我是杜撰不成”。- 宝GG : 所以: : :“除Guideline外,浮云的太多,偏只我是浮云不成”。- 宝GG : LOL
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 6 赞! 最喜欢6.
the
patient
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : 我个人有切肤之感的: : 1。“Don’t jump, pls.” Said by Ms B, and my residency mentor. : 2. 上工治未病。 : 3。急则治标、缓则治本。 : 4。用药如用兵。 : 5。“Life is short, art is long”- 希波革拉底 : 6。 “The good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the : patient who has the disease” - Sir William Osler : (Similar one: “It is much more important to know what sort of a patient : has a disease than what sort of a disease a patient has.” - Same person)
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 7 You forgot Medicine is not only the science but also the art. :)
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : : “除四书外,杜撰的太多,偏只我是杜撰不成”。- 宝GG : 所以: : :“除Guideline外,浮云的太多,偏只我是浮云不成”。- 宝GG : LOL
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L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 8 "Medicine is not only the science but also the art." - Says A++ :-) |
V**y 发帖数: 788 | 9 上大学实习的时候有一次被一格进修医生教导了一个金橘:对病人要凶,你要是不先凶
他们就对你凶。果然基本很管用。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Sir William Osler said "Listen to the patient, they will tell you the : diagnosis." : Yogi Berra said "You can see a lot by looking." and he also said ""You can : hear a lot by listening." : More than a century ago, Louis Pasteur said, “Chance favors only the : prepared mind.” : A++说:没有证据一切都是浮云。 lol : 能不能跟大家share your favorite?
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 10 哈哈, 凶过你的头。
警句啊。
【在 V**y 的大作中提到】 : 上大学实习的时候有一次被一格进修医生教导了一个金橘:对病人要凶,你要是不先凶 : 他们就对你凶。果然基本很管用。
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 11 不知道谁说过。
Hippocrates is too ancient to know about science.
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : "Medicine is not only the science but also the art." - Says A++ :-)
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L****n 发帖数: 12932 | 12 Osler 估计没做过麻醉。 LOL
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Sir William Osler said "Listen to the patient, they will tell you the : diagnosis." : Yogi Berra said "You can see a lot by looking." and he also said ""You can : hear a lot by listening." : More than a century ago, Louis Pasteur said, “Chance favors only the : prepared mind.” : A++说:没有证据一切都是浮云。 lol : 能不能跟大家share your favorite?
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s****p 发帖数: 1087 | 13 我倒挖掘了一个治疗慢性病的治疗宝典:
“一剂不效吃十剂,今日不效明日再吃,今年不效吃到明年。横竖这药都是不伤人的,
甜丝丝的,又好吃。吃过一百岁,人横竖是要死的, 死了还病什么!那时就见效了。
” by 王一贴
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : "Medicine is not only the science but also the art." - Says A++ :-)
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 14 麻醉也得问病史吧?
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】 : Osler 估计没做过麻醉。 LOL
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L*****s 发帖数: 24744 | 15 一天一个苹果,医生远离我.
可是这样医生还咋糊口呢? |
A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 16 这是苹果商的广告。
【在 L*****s 的大作中提到】 : 一天一个苹果,医生远离我. : 可是这样医生还咋糊口呢?
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s*******w 发帖数: 1879 | 17 Life is short, art is long
my fav. |
s****p 发帖数: 1087 | 18 麻瓜说话就是没有水平。
话是这么说的:
木有证据神马都是浮云,有木有!有木有!!有木有!!!
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : 这是苹果商的广告。
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L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 19
哈哈,这是宝玉独门秘制的药香吧。
不过说起慢性病的治疗宝典来,我倒真的知道一个:
“既来之,则安之,自己完全不着急,让体内慢慢生长抵抗力和它作斗争,直至最后战
而胜之,这是对付慢性病的方法。”
这是老毛在一九四一年写给一得了慢性病的哥们儿。和《论持久战》的思路异曲同工。那年正是珍珠港事件、太平洋战事全面爆发、抗战相持阶段最惨烈的一年。
【在 s****p 的大作中提到】 : 我倒挖掘了一个治疗慢性病的治疗宝典: : “一剂不效吃十剂,今日不效明日再吃,今年不效吃到明年。横竖这药都是不伤人的, : 甜丝丝的,又好吃。吃过一百岁,人横竖是要死的, 死了还病什么!那时就见效了。 : ” by 王一贴
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L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 20
这个“木有”和“神马”是山西话,版大南通人咋能这么舍话来。
【在 s****p 的大作中提到】 : 麻瓜说话就是没有水平。 : 话是这么说的: : 木有证据神马都是浮云,有木有!有木有!!有木有!!!
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 21 Good decision-making comes from experience, and experience comes from bad
decision-making. |
L****n 发帖数: 12932 | 22 ideally, get your experience from OTHER'S bad decision making :-)
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Good decision-making comes from experience, and experience comes from bad : decision-making.
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 23 There are only two reasons not to do a rectal exam. One you don't have a
finger or two, the patient doesn't have a rectum. |
L****n 发帖数: 12932 | 24 once a surgery attending showing a new girl intern how to put foley in a
male patient. he asked her to hold the penis, she held it with 2 fingers.
He was quite upset. so he grasped the whole penis with his palm and scream
to the poor girl:"Hold it like you mean it!"
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : There are only two reasons not to do a rectal exam. One you don't have a : finger or two, the patient doesn't have a rectum.
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 25 你这个是江湖版的。
【在 s****p 的大作中提到】 : 麻瓜说话就是没有水平。 : 话是这么说的: : 木有证据神马都是浮云,有木有!有木有!!有木有!!!
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 26 Sick people complain about one thing. Healthy people complain about
everything. |
s****p 发帖数: 1087 | 27 Good cycle:
Good eggs come from chickens, and chickens come from bad eggs?
Or Good chickens come from eggs, and eggs come from bad chickens?
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Good decision-making comes from experience, and experience comes from bad : decision-making.
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 28 你太物质了, 我们在谈意识。
【在 s****p 的大作中提到】 : Good cycle: : Good eggs come from chickens, and chickens come from bad eggs? : Or Good chickens come from eggs, and eggs come from bad chickens?
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s****p 发帖数: 1087 | 29 可是我不明白:
Bad eggs come from what?
Or Bad decision-making comes from what?
您漏了一个。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : 你太物质了, 我们在谈意识。
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 30 Bad decision-making comes from the person who could be you, me or whoever.
Bad eggs are bad eggs, coming from good eggs of course.
【在 s****p 的大作中提到】 : 可是我不明白: : Bad eggs come from what? : Or Bad decision-making comes from what? : 您漏了一个。
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s****p 发帖数: 1087 | 31 :)
chicken-egg 不是 你的理论的 好类比。
见谅。饶舌玩玩。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】 : Bad decision-making comes from the person who could be you, me or whoever. : Bad eggs are bad eggs, coming from good eggs of course.
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 32 If it were not for the great variability among individuals, medicine might
as well be a science and not an art.---- Sir William Osler |
L*****r 发帖数: 722 | 33 HAHAHA,的确是ideally,
希特勒远征苏联时候,居然不顾拿破仑的前车之鉴,同样没有给部队准备冬装。其实拿
破仑惨败于俄国的严寒,就已经是重蹈N 年前瑞典王查理十二冬季远征莫斯科的覆辙。
有一哥们评价这段历史时候,说那些牛人明知道前人的错误,可就是前仆后继、一如既
往的重蹈覆辙,原因在于他们都以为自己比前人更牛,以为同样情况下,换了自己就能handle局面、转败为胜。所以希特勒发起总攻的时间,只比拿破仑提前了三天,他大约是以为自己的闪击战比拿破仑牛多了,足以在冬季到来之前给老毛子斩首。殊不知低估老毛子倔驴脾气和俄罗斯冷酷严冬的错误,也是从别人那里学不来的,非得自己体会了才算experience,可惜体会到了也太晚了。
所以说从别人的错误里面学习,其实很不容易。
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】 : ideally, get your experience from OTHER'S bad decision making :-)
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 34 理想和现实差距不小, 尽量多学别人的经验吧。
能handle局面、转败为胜。所以希特勒发起总攻的时间,只比拿破仑提前了三天,他大
约是以为自己的闪击战比拿破仑牛多了,足以在冬季到来之前给老毛子斩首。殊不知低
估老毛子倔驴脾气和俄罗斯冷酷严冬的错误,也是从别人那里学不来的,非得自己体会
了才算experience,可惜体会到了也太晚了。
【在 L*****r 的大作中提到】 : HAHAHA,的确是ideally, : 希特勒远征苏联时候,居然不顾拿破仑的前车之鉴,同样没有给部队准备冬装。其实拿 : 破仑惨败于俄国的严寒,就已经是重蹈N 年前瑞典王查理十二冬季远征莫斯科的覆辙。 : 有一哥们评价这段历史时候,说那些牛人明知道前人的错误,可就是前仆后继、一如既 : 往的重蹈覆辙,原因在于他们都以为自己比前人更牛,以为同样情况下,换了自己就能handle局面、转败为胜。所以希特勒发起总攻的时间,只比拿破仑提前了三天,他大约是以为自己的闪击战比拿破仑牛多了,足以在冬季到来之前给老毛子斩首。殊不知低估老毛子倔驴脾气和俄罗斯冷酷严冬的错误,也是从别人那里学不来的,非得自己体会了才算experience,可惜体会到了也太晚了。 : 所以说从别人的错误里面学习,其实很不容易。
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t*********m 发帖数: 360 | 35 bravo!
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】 : once a surgery attending showing a new girl intern how to put foley in a : male patient. he asked her to hold the penis, she held it with 2 fingers. : He was quite upset. so he grasped the whole penis with his palm and scream : to the poor girl:"Hold it like you mean it!"
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A*******s 发帖数: 9638 | 36 Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig. |