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m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 1 If your Eng is average, the best specialty is path or rad. Once you reach
over 20s, it is very hard to pick up a new culture and English, unless you
have language or cultural gifts or you change your environment completely (
marrying a white..). It is very hard for Chinese to compete with white
colleagues, no matter you are in private practice or academic center. The
biggest problem is that most Chinese DO NOT know how to socialize. It is
hard for Chinese to establish personal relationships with Americans. Don't
compete with Americans in social skills.They are way way better than us. So
KNOW OUR LIMITS is the key. Pathology or radiology is different.The final
diagnosis is the key, no matter how rhetorical you are.You spend most of
your day alone in the cubicle, basically eliminating direct pt care. Once
you reach a correct diagnosis, everybody respects you. | l*******d
发帖数: 449 | | t*****s
发帖数: 139 | 3 While we love to say the word "compete", our american counterpart more like,
at least on the surface, to use the word "collaborate".
Ask yourself this question: how come can you establish personal relationship
or make friend with someone who once realizes you want to compete him/her
out? Even he/she is your 同胞.
Believe it or not, working too hard sometimes sends out a strong signal to
your colleague that you are competing with them, even if you are not. You
can argue that they are too lazy. But in reality it dosen't matter. What
matters is that they are united and you are finally isolated. If this is the
way you want to live your life here, GO AHEAD! | h**********1
发帖数: 40 | 4 看来用工也不行，那我就干得差点，这样大家看我不行，那就不是竞争对手了，一般大
家都有同情心，看我这么差，可能还帮一把，朋友就有了。 | m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 5 I agree with tamrcss. But one thing I need to point out is that it depends
on the specialty.
If you are doing surgery, especially preliminary surgery (nondesignated) .
The main theme b/w you and other preli PYG1 interns are knockout tournament.
4:30AM-7:00 PM is your basic schedule. Hi-Fi working and Hi-Fi talking,
just like a Boxer in an interview before the fight. Never talk to anyone
that the work is too hard. If you have a really nice performance, you will
be selected to PYG2 position out of the rest of 5-6 interns. Other guys
either stay at home or shift career to IM or path or FM. To be humble is
less prioritized in prel surgery.
If you are doing Path or Rad, a different story will come up. Being humble,
collaborative and peaceful is the main theme. DON'T SHOW TOO MUCH. AT LEAST,
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SHOW, DON'T LET OTHER RESIDENTS KNOW. As tamrcss said,
never work too much in front of other residents. Follow the same schedule as
other interns or residents. Never assume that you are going to work more
than the rest of colleagues. Or at least do not do it in front of them. Do
the extra work at home or somewhere they could not notice you. BUT DO LET
YOUR BOSS KNOW. Don't jump to the final diagnosis even if you know for sure.
Try to describe first AND come up with differentials. Do not ask something
you already know the answer to show you are super bright. Attending are
someone who underwent the whole process and knew exactly what you meant to
do. Instead, try to show you have a good command of knowledge in your
dictation report. In brief, Hi-Fi working but low key talkin in path or rad. | q*******7
发帖数: 273 | | z**********4
发帖数: 467 | 7 Magneto可能想说rad和path都属于辅助科室，思维模式以及工作差不多，呵呵，起码这
两个科都不需要看病人。
tournament.
【在 m*******1 的大作中提到】
: I agree with tamrcss. But one thing I need to point out is that it depends
: on the specialty.
: If you are doing surgery, especially preliminary surgery (nondesignated) .
: The main theme b/w you and other preli PYG1 interns are knockout tournament.
: 4:30AM-7:00 PM is your basic schedule. Hi-Fi working and Hi-Fi talking,
: just like a Boxer in an interview before the fight. Never talk to anyone
: that the work is too hard. If you have a really nice performance, you will
: be selected to PYG2 position out of the rest of 5-6 interns. Other guys
: either stay at home or shift career to IM or path or FM. To be humble is
: less prioritized in prel surgery.
| q**d
发帖数: 109 | 8 锋芒毕露在任何文化都不是好性格，我接触的住院医，医生大多是为人随和，不紧不慢
，但是目光是坚定的，反正，你感觉找他们办事放心，不毛草。很多人说美国人
agressive，至少我在医院圈里没发现。 | A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 9 Agressiveness说的是眼里有活， 把事情高效率的做好就体现了aggressiveness。
【在 q**d 的大作中提到】
: 锋芒毕露在任何文化都不是好性格，我接触的住院医，医生大多是为人随和，不紧不慢
: ，但是目光是坚定的，反正，你感觉找他们办事放心，不毛草。很多人说美国人
: agressive，至少我在医院圈里没发现。
| m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 10 Some Chinese are very malleable. After a couple of yrs training, they behave
or speak in a way much like AMGs. Most are not so malleable. Even when they
are attendings, they are so much Chinese. 真是一辈子改不了的乡土味呀。 What
makes the difference? | | | C**********k
发帖数: 3 | 11 Good advice....知己知彼也
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.28 | s********g
发帖数: 290 | 12 赞同。楼主大脑进水了。鉴定完毕。
【在 l*******d 的大作中提到】
: 一派胡言，
| h*****d
发帖数: 259 | 13 搂主这英文写作水平还坚持不懈地用英文写，佩服佩服
So
【在 m*******1 的大作中提到】
: If your Eng is average, the best specialty is path or rad. Once you reach
: over 20s, it is very hard to pick up a new culture and English, unless you
: have language or cultural gifts or you change your environment completely (
: marrying a white..). It is very hard for Chinese to compete with white
: colleagues, no matter you are in private practice or academic center. The
: biggest problem is that most Chinese DO NOT know how to socialize. It is
: hard for Chinese to establish personal relationships with Americans. Don't
: compete with Americans in social skills.They are way way better than us. So
: KNOW OUR LIMITS is the key. Pathology or radiology is different.The final
: diagnosis is the key, no matter how rhetorical you are.You spend most of
| n***h
发帖数: 364 | 14 why 胡言？
【在 l*******d 的大作中提到】
: 一派胡言，
| m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 15 why 胡言？
B/C THEY HAVE NOT REACHED THAT FAR. | k********n
发帖数: 756 | 16 非常非常非常有道理。
你的STEP1考得怎么样了？
So
【在 m*******1 的大作中提到】
: If your Eng is average, the best specialty is path or rad. Once you reach
: over 20s, it is very hard to pick up a new culture and English, unless you
: have language or cultural gifts or you change your environment completely (
: marrying a white..). It is very hard for Chinese to compete with white
: colleagues, no matter you are in private practice or academic center. The
: biggest problem is that most Chinese DO NOT know how to socialize. It is
: hard for Chinese to establish personal relationships with Americans. Don't
: compete with Americans in social skills.They are way way better than us. So
: KNOW OUR LIMITS is the key. Pathology or radiology is different.The final
: diagnosis is the key, no matter how rhetorical you are.You spend most of
| o******c
发帖数: 46 | 17 不明白干吗攻击楼主。
我想加的一点，if your english is average, anesthesia is a good choice as
well. | m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 18 Yes, I agree. Anesthesia is very good and does not need a lot of
communications. Anyway, my point is to utilize our power. It is not our
strength to talk about baseball, football or big blockbusters...But those
topics are essential to establish rapport with pts or other colleagues. But
we are hardworking and intelligent. We can open tons of topics relevant to
our work, which seems more important. Awy, do not let others assume that
Chinese are dry. | l*******d
发帖数: 449 | 19 整篇的自卑自弃，想尽办法取悦洋人由不得其门而入。你以为洋人就是足球，棒球，曲
棍球？你也就懂个球。我不行，连个球也不懂，我喜欢写两笔，曾经和洋人谈过，他们
不懂，但是认为很好，因为不是每个民族都有自己的书法艺术，但是每个民族都想写的
好看，那个同事还专门写了话题英文给我看，我说也是艺术，彼此都很高兴。中国5000
年文化，有很多灿烂文化，民族的也就是世界的，受教育高的PD是识货的。同样，英美
文化也不就是个球，蒙古大夫说不喜欢球，可是也没影响他工作，交朋友。 | o******c
发帖数: 46 | 20 真的不知道“想尽办法取悦洋人”的到底是谁？想要别人尊敬你，首先尊敬自己和尊敬
自己的同胞。楼主不过发表个人见解，值得你这样贬人吗？你这样贬过洋人吗？
在国内做过医生的人，扪心自问，有几个敢说自己在中国对待咱中国的病人跟在美国对
待美国病人的态度一样？
Largebird, wish you have a large heart too. | | | m*******1
发帖数: 328 | 21 I am not trying to denigrate our own culture.I respect it and proud of it.
However, I keep my pride in my heart when I am working with American
colleagues. One rule is that do not behave too differently from the majority
. It is human nature to distrust those who are too different from us. Those
with rugged individuality will become outcasts. In brief, sing the local
songs where you are. Just suppose that you return to China as a doctor. If
you are talking too much about America and do not identify with your
colleagues, you will soon become an outcast. Haha.. The worst scenario is
that you could not be accepted by both cultures. | l*******d
发帖数: 449 | 22 从来没感觉中国文化和美国的文化格格不入，近代的中国价值观和西方已经很像了。你
看看黑人兄弟，人家要笑就发自内心的大笑，人家肆无忌惮打喷嚏，白人什么都不敢说
，到我这里，我中国人的优秀文化我得藏着，我中华文明和美利坚格格不入？民族的就
是世界的，你的好品质打哪里都是受尊重的。别后悔你是中国人，别惭愧你打不好垒球
，文化有差异，但是文化没有尊卑。他美国人谈个球不是冒犯我，我不会球也不是我低
贱。交朋友要有共同爱好，更要有共同价值观，什么是共同价值观？那就是人生来平等
，不分贵贱，求同存异，你用不着为我改变，我如果喜欢也可以学习你的长处。如果没
有平等的底线，不交朋友也罢。 | o*******w
发帖数: 898 | 23 写中文吧，看得好累。
So
【在 m*******1 的大作中提到】
: If your Eng is average, the best specialty is path or rad. Once you reach
: over 20s, it is very hard to pick up a new culture and English, unless you
: have language or cultural gifts or you change your environment completely (
: marrying a white..). It is very hard for Chinese to compete with white
: colleagues, no matter you are in private practice or academic center. The
: biggest problem is that most Chinese DO NOT know how to socialize. It is
: hard for Chinese to establish personal relationships with Americans. Don't
: compete with Americans in social skills.They are way way better than us. So
: KNOW OUR LIMITS is the key. Pathology or radiology is different.The final
: diagnosis is the key, no matter how rhetorical you are.You spend most of
| o*******w
发帖数: 898 | 24 同意。
【在 q**d 的大作中提到】
: 锋芒毕露在任何文化都不是好性格，我接触的住院医，医生大多是为人随和，不紧不慢
: ，但是目光是坚定的，反正，你感觉找他们办事放心，不毛草。很多人说美国人
: agressive，至少我在医院圈里没发现。
| c*******r
发帖数: 54 | 25 I think it is more important to do what you enjoy instead of otherwise, in
that you will feel comfortable and making progress more rapidly, including
things like language/communication skills that you thought you were "not as
good" at. As a matter of fact, as long as you know what you are doing and
get good at that, I think most of your colleagues will give you credit and
respect. | z**********4
发帖数: 467 | 26 Well, I do not agree with Magneto completely though some of his views make
sense to me. But I object to derogatory comments. Everyone has the right to
express his/her opinions on something. Please do not openly attack. Magneto
seems like a gentleman who did NOT retaliate. I would love to give one bonus
point to Magneto. |
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