t*****s
发帖数: 139 | 1 Last week, I wrote a reply to the thread initiated by meigui0714 (rose) with
the title "(BSSD)他们更看重什么?" (see below), in which I recommended our
members read an excellent article titled "Paper Tigers". At that time, our
medical career board boss herby asked me to initiate a thread to discuss an
important topic of how we can improve our English language and communication
skills. Sure, now is the time.
The reason I point out to this particular article is because I believe it,
for the first time in at least 10 years, to my knowledge, provides us with a
BIG picture of how asian like Chinese are viewed by other groups in the US.
Those kids are US citizens. They shouldn't have any problem with English
language. But sadly the culture difference, in my opinion, sets them aside
from the main stream. As I mentioned before, it IS the culture NOT the
English itself that prevents us from communicating with the main stream
americans effectively. Therefore, my belief is that one can improve his/her
real communication skills only if he/she is willing to raise awareness in
american culture. This will hold true as long as we are minority in this
country.
What is your thought?
标 题: Re: (BSSD)他们更看重什么?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Sep 7 16:59:11 2011, 美东)
Back in June, I noticed an excellent article titled "Paper Tigers" authored
by Wesley Yang. It was published on the "New York Magazine" website. In this
article, Mr. Yang talks about some serious problems that many Asian-
Americans are facing right now. Although it is quite lengthy, I really enjoy
reading it from the beginning to end. If you have time, I highly recommend
you read it, especially for those who are parents already. What would you
like your children to be when they grow up here in the US? Refresh yourself
with it and rethink about yourself at least for now.
To get this article, search Google using key words: "New York Magazine" and
"Paper Tigers".
Happy sharing! | i*d
发帖数: 2640 | 2 你说的很对，
不过得改变自己，就看你愿不愿意了。
面试前3个月突击一下。全盘西化。只讲英语，和老美拉家常，谈政治，看英语新闻体
育新闻八卦杂志，听英语歌，更新billboard排行榜，吃pizza pasta，周末去泡吧，下
班去跑步。
等面试完，再做回自己。
with
an
communication
a
US.
【在 t*****s 的大作中提到】
: Last week, I wrote a reply to the thread initiated by meigui0714 (rose) with
: the title "(BSSD)他们更看重什么?" (see below), in which I recommended our
: members read an excellent article titled "Paper Tigers". At that time, our
: medical career board boss herby asked me to initiate a thread to discuss an
: important topic of how we can improve our English language and communication
: skills. Sure, now is the time.
: The reason I point out to this particular article is because I believe it,
: for the first time in at least 10 years, to my knowledge, provides us with a
: BIG picture of how asian like Chinese are viewed by other groups in the US.
: Those kids are US citizens. They shouldn't have any problem with English
| h***y
发帖数: 834 | 3 先mark一下，回头来仔细拜读。 十分感谢楼主！ | l*******d
发帖数: 449 | 4 邯郸学步，不能将黄陂漂白，就是骆家辉还常被人指责不是纯美国人。保持自己风格就
行，只要专业上没的说，水管你中国人日本人？印度人怎么样，没有自己的文化，全盘
英化，照样是印度人，没听说变成白人的。我觉得中国人混不仅“主流圈”，就是自轻
自贱的结果，自己觉得自己的文化落后，怎么会有人瞧得上你？我们专业没问题，平时
简单工作交流不出错就行了。中国5000年文化，美国500年不到，你说到底谁没文化？
美国讲究包容，各种风俗文化并存，学习对方的先进方面是对的，没有什么融入，尤其
是这种数典忘祖式的融入。
我可以学英语，学文化，但是叫我忘了汉语，忘了5000年中国传统那不行。我可以学用刀叉吃带血牛
肉，可要是你认为用筷子吃饭卑贱了，不入主流，那不行。 | t*****s
发帖数: 139 | 5 It appears that there is some misunderstanding about the purpose of this
thread among our forum members.
First of all, this thread does not intend to compare the culture between
China and the US, or to say which one is better than the other. In fact,
they are NOT very much comparable.
We are here to try to find better ways, rather smooth and painless, to
improve our daily communication skills through the contribution from our
members. We don't need big words. All we need is your time-proven SOLUTION.
Yes, that's it!
The conventional wisdom is that everyone will not be ready to help until he/
she is helped at the first place. So we are waiting, waiting and waiting...
Finally, all we get is nothing.
Think about it and let's share something here! | l*******d
发帖数: 449 | 6 I don't think there is any misunderstanding about your post. you put a lot
of words on the skill communications, mainly about how to make American
think our Chinese is not Chinese but Chinese American because we accept
their culture and at same time we abandon our own's.
At least on conversation and communication skill, your post doesn't make me
feel comfortable. I don't understand why to behave as yourself is so hard
for you, it is so embarrassing for you. resident is a training for medicine,
not a training for American culture, moreover, among your patients, there
are different races different cultures, how can you handle this? you refuse
to see them because you convert 100% to American culture?
Asian culture is not my shortcoming, on the contrary, it is my advantage, I
will give Asian patients more close and more proper service, because I
understand their culture their living environment, their history, all these
will help me to make more accurate diagnosis and select more suitable
treatments.
| t*****s
发帖数: 139 | 7 There is no need to argue. It is an endless topic. What we need now is
solutions.
I, at least, have provided one of my solutions here
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/MedicalCareer/31440029_4.html
It's ok that you disagree with my method.
So WHAT IS YOURS?
me
medicine,
refuse
【在 l*******d 的大作中提到】
: I don't think there is any misunderstanding about your post. you put a lot
: of words on the skill communications, mainly about how to make American
: think our Chinese is not Chinese but Chinese American because we accept
: their culture and at same time we abandon our own's.
: At least on conversation and communication skill, your post doesn't make me
: feel comfortable. I don't understand why to behave as yourself is so hard
: for you, it is so embarrassing for you. resident is a training for medicine,
: not a training for American culture, moreover, among your patients, there
: are different races different cultures, how can you handle this? you refuse
: to see them because you convert 100% to American culture?
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 8 Well, in general I agree that there is a cultural gap between CMGs (majority
anyway) and the american counter parts. But to improve communication, there
are many many ways, not necessarily all require you to immerse yourself
into american culture. A matter of fact, that could be more difficult for
most people than doing the residency itself, hehe. One simply just have to
open his mouth and talk. meanwhile pay attention to how people talk. topic
can be just about anything, Amongst many things i did during research years,
i worked part-time in a high end chinese restaurant. while most waiters
take order by the number, i would talk briefly about how each dish is made
and tastes like. in return, i got not only more tips, more importantly lots
of compliments. - which in turn boost the confidence and drive. Yes, i was
a self trained talker :-) and no, i still don't like football or baseball. | q**d
发帖数: 109 | 9 前辈说的真好，保持自我，积极参与，有理有节，相互包容 | A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 10 小辈总结得也不错嘛。
【在 q**d 的大作中提到】
: 前辈说的真好，保持自我，积极参与，有理有节，相互包容
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