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p**m
发帖数: 55
1
真诚请教过来人指点:
本人POSDOC已5年,做TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH(应用医学科研), 系二孩儿妈, 4岁和2岁
,有绿卡, 老工已失业一年,
现想放弃RESEARCH, 但下不了决心是考MD还考个PA更实际些: 虽是国内临床专业毕业,
然十几年未从事过临床,加孩子小,没太多时间.不知道能否考下来又不知能否MATCH上,
看到周围有人比自己条件好还几年MATCH不上,真怕.
如果不做MD,还有什么相关的POSITION可以学/做吗?
诚心谢建议.
D******e
发帖数: 1085
2
DDS > PharmD > Nursing > PA > MD.
Easy pick.
If
1. You are good with your hands.
2. You can get in.
3. Money is your top priority.

,

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 真诚请教过来人指点:
: 本人POSDOC已5年,做TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH(应用医学科研), 系二孩儿妈, 4岁和2岁
: ,有绿卡, 老工已失业一年,
: 现想放弃RESEARCH, 但下不了决心是考MD还考个PA更实际些: 虽是国内临床专业毕业,
: 然十几年未从事过临床,加孩子小,没太多时间.不知道能否考下来又不知能否MATCH上,
: 看到周围有人比自己条件好还几年MATCH不上,真怕.
: 如果不做MD,还有什么相关的POSITION可以学/做吗?
: 诚心谢建议.

p**m
发帖数: 55
3
Do not understand. I have never studied dental nor PharmD? both mean several
years to enroll the school first, right?

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: DDS > PharmD > Nursing > PA > MD.
: Easy pick.
: If
: 1. You are good with your hands.
: 2. You can get in.
: 3. Money is your top priority.
:
: ,

f****b
发帖数: 2410
4
靠班就是中彩票,当然比彩票实际要高,在国内做过住院,甚至医生主治,
有帮助,
不易学新的,如果老公在待业中

,

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 真诚请教过来人指点:
: 本人POSDOC已5年,做TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH(应用医学科研), 系二孩儿妈, 4岁和2岁
: ,有绿卡, 老工已失业一年,
: 现想放弃RESEARCH, 但下不了决心是考MD还考个PA更实际些: 虽是国内临床专业毕业,
: 然十几年未从事过临床,加孩子小,没太多时间.不知道能否考下来又不知能否MATCH上,
: 看到周围有人比自己条件好还几年MATCH不上,真怕.
: 如果不做MD,还有什么相关的POSITION可以学/做吗?
: 诚心谢建议.

a********e
发帖数: 3771
5
前辈能否给咱比较一下DDS和MD?

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: DDS > PharmD > Nursing > PA > MD.
: Easy pick.
: If
: 1. You are good with your hands.
: 2. You can get in.
: 3. Money is your top priority.
:
: ,

s*******d
发帖数: 1079
6
如果老公没工作或者短期内也看不到稳定工作的可能,完全依靠你自己养家的话,那就
考版吧----理论上来说投资收益比值最大,实际怎样要看个人具体情况,TAKE YOUR OWN RISK。补充一句,大龄宝妈拖家带口的,要全职工作又要学习,孩子这么小正是粘人的时候,操作起来实在是非常的不容易。
如果家里存款足够或者老公可以承担部分养家重任的话,还是去读PA吧----时间短(2年
),见效快(收入也不错),EASY LIFE。一些州立的PA program学费并不高的。
【 在 prem (prem) 的大作中提到: 】
,
a*********d
发帖数: 2763
7
有了考board资格,去做牙医,你能说服得了自己,能说服得了牙医学院?
你可以考board,去重新读什么pharmD DDS学位都是不合理投资,靠board是回报率最高
的,说实话意你现在的处境,you have nothing to lose,也不用辞职,花的就是一两
年的看书时间和考试的钱。实在觉得不想这么花脑子,去读个PA,也行,至少和医学还
有关,但是其实活不少干,先期投资也不少。
D******e
发帖数: 1085
8
Dont listen to these MDs. They make less money than a dentist and are
always regarded as a 2nd class MD in this country.
4 yrs to get DDS.
You are looking at 6 yrs to finish residency. 2 yrs to pass step 1 and 2.
And some OB experience. You may not make it the first year.
Easier life in dental school than residency.
Dont worry about the tuition. You will make more money than you can spend.
If you cant get in a dental school after 2 tries, you can try something else.

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 有了考board资格,去做牙医,你能说服得了自己,能说服得了牙医学院?
: 你可以考board,去重新读什么pharmD DDS学位都是不合理投资,靠board是回报率最高
: 的,说实话意你现在的处境,you have nothing to lose,也不用辞职,花的就是一两
: 年的看书时间和考试的钱。实在觉得不想这么花脑子,去读个PA,也行,至少和医学还
: 有关,但是其实活不少干,先期投资也不少。

a*********d
发帖数: 2763
9
拼命鼓动别人去考前景如此灿烂的牙医,自己却天天在这里complain考board考得很辛
苦但是还要考,不是很自相矛盾么。
既然医生让你如此看不起,你自己为什么还叫嚷着要付那几千块钱去observe,削尖脑
袋要走这条路呢?
版上每个人有自己的见解,自己的生活经历,本来就是拿出来讨论的,并没有什么谁对
谁错,但是你句句话都要涉及人生攻击,对别人的态度充满了歧视,反映出来的,却恰
恰是自己的自卑和对未来的恐惧。
原先觉得你的英文还挺好的,能经常给大家提个醒,但是今天你连2nd class MD这样的
话都说出来的人,根本就不配到这个版上来发言。请版主认真考虑封ID.


.
else.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: Dont listen to these MDs. They make less money than a dentist and are
: always regarded as a 2nd class MD in this country.
: 4 yrs to get DDS.
: You are looking at 6 yrs to finish residency. 2 yrs to pass step 1 and 2.
: And some OB experience. You may not make it the first year.
: Easier life in dental school than residency.
: Dont worry about the tuition. You will make more money than you can spend.
: If you cant get in a dental school after 2 tries, you can try something else.

f****b
发帖数: 2410
10
风MM 一向可好,欢迎你能常来麦地辉人不捐,自从当上了主治,
MM 脾气似乎有所见涨,息怒息怒,Newbier 远不到封ID 的程度,
都是自己人,即使Newbier 自己不去尝试的,推荐给别人,也不为过,
又拍您老人家一下拉,

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 拼命鼓动别人去考前景如此灿烂的牙医,自己却天天在这里complain考board考得很辛
: 苦但是还要考,不是很自相矛盾么。
: 既然医生让你如此看不起,你自己为什么还叫嚷着要付那几千块钱去observe,削尖脑
: 袋要走这条路呢?
: 版上每个人有自己的见解,自己的生活经历,本来就是拿出来讨论的,并没有什么谁对
: 谁错,但是你句句话都要涉及人生攻击,对别人的态度充满了歧视,反映出来的,却恰
: 恰是自己的自卑和对未来的恐惧。
: 原先觉得你的英文还挺好的,能经常给大家提个醒,但是今天你连2nd class MD这样的
: 话都说出来的人,根本就不配到这个版上来发言。请版主认真考虑封ID.
:

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a*********d
发帖数: 2763
11
我脾气一向是分人的。
“都是自己人”这句话不敢当,大家都分class了,自然不是自己人了。

【在 f****b 的大作中提到】
: 风MM 一向可好,欢迎你能常来麦地辉人不捐,自从当上了主治,
: MM 脾气似乎有所见涨,息怒息怒,Newbier 远不到封ID 的程度,
: 都是自己人,即使Newbier 自己不去尝试的,推荐给别人,也不为过,
: 又拍您老人家一下拉,

c***y
发帖数: 811
12
如果你对research不感兴趣:就等你LG找到工作,然后你再辞职考试。给自己一年的
时间拼一把,要是有能力考好step1,就继续往下冲,否则就赶紧考GRE,申请PA,PT
啥的。

,

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 真诚请教过来人指点:
: 本人POSDOC已5年,做TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH(应用医学科研), 系二孩儿妈, 4岁和2岁
: ,有绿卡, 老工已失业一年,
: 现想放弃RESEARCH, 但下不了决心是考MD还考个PA更实际些: 虽是国内临床专业毕业,
: 然十几年未从事过临床,加孩子小,没太多时间.不知道能否考下来又不知能否MATCH上,
: 看到周围有人比自己条件好还几年MATCH不上,真怕.
: 如果不做MD,还有什么相关的POSITION可以学/做吗?
: 诚心谢建议.

i******b
发帖数: 1780
13
But the problem is that you are always second-class doctor even of you pass
the board and resident training.That is why I dont want to go through this
route even if I have MD in China.

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 有了考board资格,去做牙医,你能说服得了自己,能说服得了牙医学院?
: 你可以考board,去重新读什么pharmD DDS学位都是不合理投资,靠board是回报率最高
: 的,说实话意你现在的处境,you have nothing to lose,也不用辞职,花的就是一两
: 年的看书时间和考试的钱。实在觉得不想这么花脑子,去读个PA,也行,至少和医学还
: 有关,但是其实活不少干,先期投资也不少。

a*********d
发帖数: 2763
14
Such a shame to see this kind of post. You don't know what you have missed.
You gave up your valuable education background just because of such naive
and shallow thoughts. You didn't even try to get a chance to taste what's
really out there.
Oh well, whatever makes you sleep at night. If thinking this way makes you
happy,go ahead. But I wonder if there is always some kind of regret deep in
your heart, otherwise you won't be visiting this forum, right?

pass

【在 i******b 的大作中提到】
: But the problem is that you are always second-class doctor even of you pass
: the board and resident training.That is why I dont want to go through this
: route even if I have MD in China.

s******t
发帖数: 579
15
Support!
If somebody like to line in 2nd or 3rd class, that is their choices. They have accepted it and taken it for granted. We don't have to be bothered by those thoughts.
You are one of my role models!

.
in

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: Such a shame to see this kind of post. You don't know what you have missed.
: You gave up your valuable education background just because of such naive
: and shallow thoughts. You didn't even try to get a chance to taste what's
: really out there.
: Oh well, whatever makes you sleep at night. If thinking this way makes you
: happy,go ahead. But I wonder if there is always some kind of regret deep in
: your heart, otherwise you won't be visiting this forum, right?
:
: pass

s******t
发帖数: 579
16
About PA program, one of my classmates applied and got in. I did not
understand her decision but she seems like her choice very much. By the way,
she dosen't have any kid yet and her hubby has been working.
a***d
发帖数: 1347
17
I work in clinical research/clinical trail feild, no more school, no
liceanse required (for now). starting salary: 25-35/hour.
site: Clinical research/data coord
sponsor: clinical research associates: in house CRA (no travel)
CRO:
F*******y
发帖数: 88
18
我建议你考board.考出来以后就业范围很广,就算你以后不当医生,也可以去药
厂做SAFETY啥的,pay得很不错的。这个年纪重新读学位没有意思,你已经有
了一个MD了,考了BOARD就可以理直气壮得加在你名片上了。如果你有一个美国
的PHD那更是锦上添花。
我个人的体会。
a******9
发帖数: 31
19
我不同意2nd class MD的说法,只要你努力,你同样可以成为1st class MD。不要把这
个作为你不努力的借口。
中国人可能的问题是英语口语,试想一下作为病人,不了解你的医术,如果发现你英语
都说不利落,他怎么可能信任你。所以不要抱怨什么1st class or 2nd class,首先提
高自己的能力,包括英语。
当然很多CMG进了NY或者NJ的Community Hospitals(这可能就是所谓的“2nd class”
),但是很多人通过自己的努力后来进了“1st class”Fellowship Programs。还是那
句话,成为2nd class or 1st class MD,在于你自己的努力。
不要把这个作为自己不努力的借口。


.
else.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: Dont listen to these MDs. They make less money than a dentist and are
: always regarded as a 2nd class MD in this country.
: 4 yrs to get DDS.
: You are looking at 6 yrs to finish residency. 2 yrs to pass step 1 and 2.
: And some OB experience. You may not make it the first year.
: Easier life in dental school than residency.
: Dont worry about the tuition. You will make more money than you can spend.
: If you cant get in a dental school after 2 tries, you can try something else.

a******9
发帖数: 31
20
你可以给自己定一个目标,比如说一年考Step 1,如果达到230+,就再考Step 2和3;
否则的话,就再考虑自己的打算。
对于大龄CMG,分数和Research最重要,如果你Research做得好,对分数的要求可以低
一点;否则的话,就尽力考个高分。不要认为99就够了,目标就应该是250+,260+或更
高。记得Teabao MM说过,当你考了260+的时候,展现在你面前的机会就多得多了。

,

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 真诚请教过来人指点:
: 本人POSDOC已5年,做TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH(应用医学科研), 系二孩儿妈, 4岁和2岁
: ,有绿卡, 老工已失业一年,
: 现想放弃RESEARCH, 但下不了决心是考MD还考个PA更实际些: 虽是国内临床专业毕业,
: 然十几年未从事过临床,加孩子小,没太多时间.不知道能否考下来又不知能否MATCH上,
: 看到周围有人比自己条件好还几年MATCH不上,真怕.
: 如果不做MD,还有什么相关的POSITION可以学/做吗?
: 诚心谢建议.

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s********p
发帖数: 1319
21
支持逆风,倒不是因为她是主治,Fellow,住院医或Pre-step 1er这些乱七八糟的东西.
支持逆风,而是因为她平和,冷静的心态和对各种问题的理性,客观分析.
少数潜意识中很自卑的家伙,已经自己把自己圈定在"二流"这个圈里了.所以在讨论问题
的时候不要再划更多的圈子或者等级了,不好.
D******e
发帖数: 1085
22
Truth hurts. They r in denial. If someone tells you a Chinese MD is just as good as the American, she is lying. Simple stats: 98% AMG match rate vs 44% CMG match rate. Why? That said, if AhQing helps your mental health, keep at it. Everyone needs a way to cope this tacky issue.
If I were good with my hands, I would get a DDS. I am just trying to get the best from my situation knowing that boarding has its vices. For me, being a doctor here is so much better than in China. No complaints

【在 s********p 的大作中提到】
: 支持逆风,倒不是因为她是主治,Fellow,住院医或Pre-step 1er这些乱七八糟的东西.
: 支持逆风,而是因为她平和,冷静的心态和对各种问题的理性,客观分析.
: 少数潜意识中很自卑的家伙,已经自己把自己圈定在"二流"这个圈里了.所以在讨论问题
: 的时候不要再划更多的圈子或者等级了,不好.

D******e
发帖数: 1085
23
People have different ambitions and strengths. Some people like me is
content with any job available. Some people strive to be the best.
The best Chinese MD like wind and 09 vs the worst American MD. They might be more respected.
But The best Chinese MD vs the best American MD?
You have to agree for a given person, better to have an American degree especially it takes the same amount of time. You will be rewarded after paying your due. Why people pay 200K for a DDS?

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 我不同意2nd class MD的说法,只要你努力,你同样可以成为1st class MD。不要把这
: 个作为你不努力的借口。
: 中国人可能的问题是英语口语,试想一下作为病人,不了解你的医术,如果发现你英语
: 都说不利落,他怎么可能信任你。所以不要抱怨什么1st class or 2nd class,首先提
: 高自己的能力,包括英语。
: 当然很多CMG进了NY或者NJ的Community Hospitals(这可能就是所谓的“2nd class”
: ),但是很多人通过自己的努力后来进了“1st class”Fellowship Programs。还是那
: 句话,成为2nd class or 1st class MD,在于你自己的努力。
: 不要把这个作为自己不努力的借口。
:

d****y
发帖数: 2180
24
读DDS是要花大钱的。我所知道的一个同学的姐姐在国内是读的牙医,在美国又读了后
面2年(前面2年免了)。就是这样,还是花了20万才读下来。当然工作不算苦,但收入
也不是说就特别高。
楼主如果走MD的路,相对来说花费要少一点,而且不用离开现在的工作。
其他的都是要辞职读书,似乎对楼主现在的情况来说有点不现实。

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: DDS > PharmD > Nursing > PA > MD.
: Easy pick.
: If
: 1. You are good with your hands.
: 2. You can get in.
: 3. Money is your top priority.
:
: ,

D******e
发帖数: 1085
25
DDS is not for everyone. You need to get a loan to finance you through.
Many CMGs dont have the means. For those who have the luxury to choose, DDS
is the way to go.
200K for a general dentist to start.
300K when you have your own business.
If you are good, take on a few specialist procedures, 400K.
Get trained as a specialist, 500K.
The above are low end estimates.
And your earning power is higher than salaried MDs because you can write off
a lot of expense as a business owner. Seriously, t

【在 d****y 的大作中提到】
: 读DDS是要花大钱的。我所知道的一个同学的姐姐在国内是读的牙医,在美国又读了后
: 面2年(前面2年免了)。就是这样,还是花了20万才读下来。当然工作不算苦,但收入
: 也不是说就特别高。
: 楼主如果走MD的路,相对来说花费要少一点,而且不用离开现在的工作。
: 其他的都是要辞职读书,似乎对楼主现在的情况来说有点不现实。

D*****l
发帖数: 554
26
People are talking about 2nd- or 3rd-class MD. Maybe it is true. Why should
I bother? It is good enough for me to get a resident.
p**m
发帖数: 55
27
请能否解释下, 99 230+ 是个啥分数, 有多高?
其实已经我有欧洲的PHD了,MD是中国的, 现没想辞职,因工作还没有很忙,应说孩子更花
时间.
老公想考ENGINEER CERTIFICATE但应该可以支持家.

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 你可以给自己定一个目标,比如说一年考Step 1,如果达到230+,就再考Step 2和3;
: 否则的话,就再考虑自己的打算。
: 对于大龄CMG,分数和Research最重要,如果你Research做得好,对分数的要求可以低
: 一点;否则的话,就尽力考个高分。不要认为99就够了,目标就应该是250+,260+或更
: 高。记得Teabao MM说过,当你考了260+的时候,展现在你面前的机会就多得多了。
:
: ,

h******g
发帖数: 1521
28
我觉得dds自己开业的话,还要考虑到是否能够拉到很多客户,牙医病人的选择性还是
很强的。中国牙医就算在中国人多的地方也不一定就能招揽到大部分中国客户,至于老
美客户,技术好,名声在外的话,可能行,如果就是中规中矩的一般牙医,老美不大会
放着白人帅哥美女牙医不选。还有美国我觉得牙医不是很缺,缺的地方说老实话,很多
人是看不起牙医的,还有牙保险跟医疗保险相差极大。

DDS
off

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: DDS is not for everyone. You need to get a loan to finance you through.
: Many CMGs dont have the means. For those who have the luxury to choose, DDS
: is the way to go.
: 200K for a general dentist to start.
: 300K when you have your own business.
: If you are good, take on a few specialist procedures, 400K.
: Get trained as a specialist, 500K.
: The above are low end estimates.
: And your earning power is higher than salaried MDs because you can write off
: a lot of expense as a business owner. Seriously, t

h******g
发帖数: 1521
29
可能等你到了另一个阶段会bother,马斯洛的层次需要说,我觉得还是很对的。还有很
多时候,人们不平衡是因为跟人比比出来的。

should

【在 D*****l 的大作中提到】
: People are talking about 2nd- or 3rd-class MD. Maybe it is true. Why should
: I bother? It is good enough for me to get a resident.

p**m
发帖数: 55
30
请教: PA是否到底还是替MD打工,做了MD的工作但拿的少,责任少?
听说医改后,MD等收入会降20-30%,会吗?
低级问题, 请别介意.

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 有了考board资格,去做牙医,你能说服得了自己,能说服得了牙医学院?
: 你可以考board,去重新读什么pharmD DDS学位都是不合理投资,靠board是回报率最高
: 的,说实话意你现在的处境,you have nothing to lose,也不用辞职,花的就是一两
: 年的看书时间和考试的钱。实在觉得不想这么花脑子,去读个PA,也行,至少和医学还
: 有关,但是其实活不少干,先期投资也不少。

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D******e
发帖数: 1085
31
2nd class MD is still an MD. You still make more money than most Americans.

【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 可能等你到了另一个阶段会bother,马斯洛的层次需要说,我觉得还是很对的。还有很
: 多时候,人们不平衡是因为跟人比比出来的。
:
: should

D******e
发帖数: 1085
32
Of course not, You are the 1st class fellow. I am a lowly low preCKian.

【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我脾气一向是分人的。
: “都是自己人”这句话不敢当,大家都分class了,自然不是自己人了。

s*******r
发帖数: 174
33

might be more respected. But compare
yourselves to the best American MDs?
especially it takes the same amount of
time. You will be rewarded after paying your due. Why people pay 200K for
a DDS? Cause they are retarded?
Hehe, remember u tried to talk one other ID into professor than usmle? U
think it is easier for us to be the best
researcher than the best MD? What is the point of being the best? U think u
can become the best if u were in china?
Then go back.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: People have different ambitions and strengths. Some people like me is
: content with any job available. Some people strive to be the best.
: The best Chinese MD like wind and 09 vs the worst American MD. They might be more respected.
: But The best Chinese MD vs the best American MD?
: You have to agree for a given person, better to have an American degree especially it takes the same amount of time. You will be rewarded after paying your due. Why people pay 200K for a DDS?

s*******r
发帖数: 174
34

From a resident's point of view, they do scut work for MD. Agrain from a
resident's point of view, I'd never go for that
path if I have a choice. However, from PAs' point of view, they r happy
about what they r doing.

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 请教: PA是否到底还是替MD打工,做了MD的工作但拿的少,责任少?
: 听说医改后,MD等收入会降20-30%,会吗?
: 低级问题, 请别介意.

D******e
发帖数: 1085
35
If you have a 260+ brain, you are home free.
My brain is size 225. Not much to look forward to.

【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 你可以给自己定一个目标,比如说一年考Step 1,如果达到230+,就再考Step 2和3;
: 否则的话,就再考虑自己的打算。
: 对于大龄CMG,分数和Research最重要,如果你Research做得好,对分数的要求可以低
: 一点;否则的话,就尽力考个高分。不要认为99就够了,目标就应该是250+,260+或更
: 高。记得Teabao MM说过,当你考了260+的时候,展现在你面前的机会就多得多了。
:
: ,

D******e
发帖数: 1085
36
Everyone works for clients. And everyone has to make his clients happy.
The bottom line is job satisfaction/stress ratio plus reward/work ratio.

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 请教: PA是否到底还是替MD打工,做了MD的工作但拿的少,责任少?
: 听说医改后,MD等收入会降20-30%,会吗?
: 低级问题, 请别介意.

D******e
发帖数: 1085
37
In his case, he is ready to apply for a faculty position.
I made it very clear. If he just started it out, board is the way to go.
Not after he is close to get a faculty position.
Board is for fresh Ph.Ds or postdocs who cant get a faculty position or a
master degree or someone without any American education like me.
In another word, it is for someone who has not put too much time in research
. Or for someone who cant make it to faculty after spending too much in
research.

for
u

【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: From a resident's point of view, they do scut work for MD. Agrain from a
: resident's point of view, I'd never go for that
: path if I have a choice. However, from PAs' point of view, they r happy
: about what they r doing.

s*******r
发帖数: 174
38

research
I assume u know the difference between being close to a faculty position and
being close to be a professor.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: In his case, he is ready to apply for a faculty position.
: I made it very clear. If he just started it out, board is the way to go.
: Not after he is close to get a faculty position.
: Board is for fresh Ph.Ds or postdocs who cant get a faculty position or a
: master degree or someone without any American education like me.
: In another word, it is for someone who has not put too much time in research
: . Or for someone who cant make it to faculty after spending too much in
: research.
:
: for

s*******r
发帖数: 174
39

research
I seriously suggest u to label ur posts as "this is just my whinning". then
nobody will be bothered. I see u really hate
what u r doing.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: In his case, he is ready to apply for a faculty position.
: I made it very clear. If he just started it out, board is the way to go.
: Not after he is close to get a faculty position.
: Board is for fresh Ph.Ds or postdocs who cant get a faculty position or a
: master degree or someone without any American education like me.
: In another word, it is for someone who has not put too much time in research
: . Or for someone who cant make it to faculty after spending too much in
: research.
:
: for

m*****b
发帖数: 36
40
It is a shame to see some of CMGs labeling themselves "2nd class MD". There
is no such thing as "2nd class MD". Period.
Remember FMGs are given the same consideration when applying residency
program as AMGs. If you can get ECFMG certificate than you are ready for the
game, as simple as that. If we were not treated equally the first place,
there won't be so many AMGs did not get their 1st choice or even unmatched,
not to mention some of FMGs did manage to get into "ROAD" residencies. CMGs
should
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D******e
发帖数: 1085
41
It might take him half a year to find one. If he cant find one, he might
think about taking USMLEs then. Most people can make tenure after getting a
tenure track position.
Just as I stated, it is for fresh Ph.Ds or postdocs who cant find a faculty
position. If you have not spent too much time in research, board is a good
choice.

and

【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: research
: I seriously suggest u to label ur posts as "this is just my whinning". then
: nobody will be bothered. I see u really hate
: what u r doing.

m*****y
发帖数: 1652
42
你不是在说笑话吧? 从来就只看phD学校,谁管你POSTDOC是哪里的?
承认二流没什么不对的。
在 autumn09 (autumn) 的大作中提到: 】
: 当然很多CMG进了NY或者NJ的Community Hospitals(这可能就是所谓的“2nd class”
s*******r
发帖数: 174
43

a
faculty
good
Faculty is not equal to professor. An adjunct assistant professor, or an
assistant professor is not a professor. A
professor is a professor. I am 100%sure he won't be able to get a
professor position in half a year, or a year, or two years even three years..... Ur English might
look pretty, but u really should know what u r talking about, especialy in
public.

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: It might take him half a year to find one. If he cant find one, he might
: think about taking USMLEs then. Most people can make tenure after getting a
: tenure track position.
: Just as I stated, it is for fresh Ph.Ds or postdocs who cant find a faculty
: position. If you have not spent too much time in research, board is a good
: choice.
:
: and

D******e
发帖数: 1085
44
Even your beloved OldKnife said dont even bother to try surgery. Why?
Reality hurts. Burying your head in the sand is one coping method.
You can be politically correct all you want.
But ask yourself, why Chinese AMGs have better chances to match into their
favorite specialties than CMGs? Why in the long run, they have much higher
potential to advance their careers?
Ask most Americans as well as Chinese, who would they choose?
A Beiyi MD or a Harvard MD?
A Chinese Harvard MD or an American

【在 m*****b 的大作中提到】
: It is a shame to see some of CMGs labeling themselves "2nd class MD". There
: is no such thing as "2nd class MD". Period.
: Remember FMGs are given the same consideration when applying residency
: program as AMGs. If you can get ECFMG certificate than you are ready for the
: game, as simple as that. If we were not treated equally the first place,
: there won't be so many AMGs did not get their 1st choice or even unmatched,
: not to mention some of FMGs did manage to get into "ROAD" residencies. CMGs
: should

s*******r
发帖数: 174
45

class”
拜托,你专科出来是要practice专科的,为毛要care more about where u get ur
residency training?

【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 你不是在说笑话吧? 从来就只看phD学校,谁管你POSTDOC是哪里的?
: 承认二流没什么不对的。
: 在 autumn09 (autumn) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 当然很多CMG进了NY或者NJ的Community Hospitals(这可能就是所谓的“2nd class”

m*****y
发帖数: 1652
46
人家说个二流都要跳的,不在乎住院医哪里?
您不用拜托我这个二流(可能还末流的),专科出来找到工作再说吧。

【在 s*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: class”
: 拜托,你专科出来是要practice专科的,为毛要care more about where u get ur
: residency training?

s*******r
发帖数: 174
47

呵呵,专科不专科的完全是个人preference。我只不过拜托了一下您的逻辑

【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 人家说个二流都要跳的,不在乎住院医哪里?
: 您不用拜托我这个二流(可能还末流的),专科出来找到工作再说吧。

k*****e
发帖数: 372
48


.
else.
麦地的氛围不是互相拆台。你认为自己是2nd class MD,知耻后勇没问题。对于别人的
评判,还是省下心力准备你自己的考
试吧。贡献少而论调高,是不会受欢迎的。如果你乐于帮助别人,请把精力放在给出更
详细的建议上来,与楼主话题“考
Board还是PA”以及你提议的“Dentist和PharmD”,其余无关的内容请停止。

【在 D******e 的大作中提到】
: Dont listen to these MDs. They make less money than a dentist and are
: always regarded as a 2nd class MD in this country.
: 4 yrs to get DDS.
: You are looking at 6 yrs to finish residency. 2 yrs to pass step 1 and 2.
: And some OB experience. You may not make it the first year.
: Easier life in dental school than residency.
: Dont worry about the tuition. You will make more money than you can spend.
: If you cant get in a dental school after 2 tries, you can try something else.

c******i
发帖数: 2427
49
看到这个帖子里一些狂妄的话真是让人哭笑不得。 某些人觉得拿个DDS的学位就好像到
菜市场买菜那么容易。 如果真的是这样, 那美国遍地都是牙医了。
如果在国内不是牙医的话, 在美国考DAT然后申请牙医学院不比考MCAT和申请医学院容易
。 有国内临床医学的背景, 考板是更现实的出路。
D******e
发帖数: 1085
50
Nobody said it is easy. And thats why it is a better choice. Ph.D is easy. They pay you for you to get your degree. Look what happens. Postdocs want to come back to get a PA, why?
There are more Chinese BMs working in a research lab than those who matched. If match is easy, why didnt they take the exams?

容易

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 看到这个帖子里一些狂妄的话真是让人哭笑不得。 某些人觉得拿个DDS的学位就好像到
: 菜市场买菜那么容易。 如果真的是这样, 那美国遍地都是牙医了。
: 如果在国内不是牙医的话, 在美国考DAT然后申请牙医学院不比考MCAT和申请医学院容易
: 。 有国内临床医学的背景, 考板是更现实的出路。

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51
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