b**m
发帖数: 18 | 1 潜水很久了，获益非浅。感谢麦地和各位前辈, especially lancet。受 lancet鼓励现
,将scramble成功经历同大家分享, 算作对麦地+lancet 的回馈.
本人情况：step1/2>95, CS pass. 1st attempts.graduation >15 years (大家看到我
ID中的mm，不要以为是美妹，实乃宝妈). 5years 国内临床，US phd, US citizen.
申请了共40个内科，得道2个interviews, including my home school. 当初任为match
的机会很大，因为读书，毕业，工作都没离开home school. 作observe的时候，认识
了PD, several attendings and residents. 且混得很熟. PD还给写了
recommendation letter. After interview, 很多attendings and residents主动要求
在PD面前为我讲好话。vice PD 也对我很满一。当得知没match, 好象埃了当头一棒，
欲哭无 |
t****x
发帖数: 126 | 2 恭喜！的确不容易，
match是个搏奕游戏，双方都争取规则下的利益最大化，"Don't believe anything PD
says, until you see the contract"
祝明年拿到心仪的PGY-2 |
f*****e
发帖数: 152 | 3 congratulations!
问2个白痴问题，
请问做了preliminary surgury 之后是什么呢？PGY-2是指什么呢？
难道不是外科比内科好么？
谢谢。
match
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: 潜水很久了，获益非浅。感谢麦地和各位前辈, especially lancet。受 lancet鼓励现
: ,将scramble成功经历同大家分享, 算作对麦地+lancet 的回馈.
: 本人情况：step1/2>95, CS pass. 1st attempts.graduation >15 years (大家看到我
: ID中的mm，不要以为是美妹，实乃宝妈). 5years 国内临床，US phd, US citizen.
: 申请了共40个内科，得道2个interviews, including my home school. 当初任为match
: 的机会很大，因为读书，毕业，工作都没离开home school. 作observe的时候，认识
: 了PD, several attendings and residents. 且混得很熟. PD还给写了
: recommendation letter. After interview, 很多attendings and residents主动要求
: 在PD面前为我讲好话。vice PD 也对我很满一。当得知没match, 好象埃了当头一棒，
: 欲哭无
|
s**j
发帖数: 196 | 4 恭喜宝妈！这个真不容易。
我也以为home school会很有希望，花了很多心思，动用了很多人力去帮我说好话，结
果还是图然。倒是本来觉得没啥希望的program，去了面试后双方感觉不错，最后也
match上了。所以match这个事情是很难说的，最好是广撒网，多面试，最后套牢一个就
好了。
祝宝妈住院医顺利。 |
t****x
发帖数: 126 | 5 动用了什莫社会资源和有力人士？
【在 s**j 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜宝妈！这个真不容易。
: 我也以为home school会很有希望，花了很多心思，动用了很多人力去帮我说好话，结
: 果还是图然。倒是本来觉得没啥希望的program，去了面试后双方感觉不错，最后也
: match上了。所以match这个事情是很难说的，最好是广撒网，多面试，最后套牢一个就
: 好了。
: 祝宝妈住院医顺利。
|
L********8
发帖数: 248 | 6 Congratulations again! Thanks for sharing your experience.
God only helps those who well prepared. Get your match
materials ready before July 1st. Once you start resident, focus on work and
try to get strong word from the program.
Try to search advance program information now and mainly target on these. I
know there are many advance
anesthesiology program, some takes CA-1 (PGY-2) even out-match. Nuclear medicine also takes residents from
PGY-1.
Best luck!
match
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: 潜水很久了，获益非浅。感谢麦地和各位前辈, especially lancet。受 lancet鼓励现
: ,将scramble成功经历同大家分享, 算作对麦地+lancet 的回馈.
: 本人情况：step1/2>95, CS pass. 1st attempts.graduation >15 years (大家看到我
: ID中的mm，不要以为是美妹，实乃宝妈). 5years 国内临床，US phd, US citizen.
: 申请了共40个内科，得道2个interviews, including my home school. 当初任为match
: 的机会很大，因为读书，毕业，工作都没离开home school. 作observe的时候，认识
: 了PD, several attendings and residents. 且混得很熟. PD还给写了
: recommendation letter. After interview, 很多attendings and residents主动要求
: 在PD面前为我讲好话。vice PD 也对我很满一。当得知没match, 好象埃了当头一棒，
: 欲哭无
|
L********8
发帖数: 248 | 7 Please read this
http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?
board=MedicalCareer&gid=31290375&start=31290375&pno=-1
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: congratulations!
: 问2个白痴问题，
: 请问做了preliminary surgury 之后是什么呢？PGY-2是指什么呢？
: 难道不是外科比内科好么？
: 谢谢。
:
:
: match
|
f****b
发帖数: 2410 | 8 Lao dao sencond emerge? took off hat.
Congrad.
and
I
medicine also takes residents from
【在 L********8 的大作中提到】
: Congratulations again! Thanks for sharing your experience.
: God only helps those who well prepared. Get your match
: materials ready before July 1st. Once you start resident, focus on work and
: try to get strong word from the program.
: Try to search advance program information now and mainly target on these. I
: know there are many advance
: anesthesiology program, some takes CA-1 (PGY-2) even out-match. Nuclear medicine also takes residents from
: PGY-1.
: Best luck!
:
|
m****a
发帖数: 287 | 9 Lancet: You are such a good guy! So helpful! Thank you |
S******A
发帖数: 413 | 10 恭喜！
prelim surg 似乎可以去麻醉和急诊，比较受欢迎。多谢贡献宝贵经验！ |
|
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j*******9
发帖数: 61 | |
a****9
发帖数: 773 | 12 God only helps those who well prepare well...
This is the core.
Anyway, big cong! |
l*******8
发帖数: 1745 | 13 Nuclear Medicine就算了，毕业后非常不好找工作。 一年的pet CT fellowship也不是
ACGME认可的。每年50几个
resident毕业，可是job opening很少很少，还是别做nuclear medicine了。
and
I
medicine also takes residents from
【在 L********8 的大作中提到】
: Congratulations again! Thanks for sharing your experience.
: God only helps those who well prepared. Get your match
: materials ready before July 1st. Once you start resident, focus on work and
: try to get strong word from the program.
: Try to search advance program information now and mainly target on these. I
: know there are many advance
: anesthesiology program, some takes CA-1 (PGY-2) even out-match. Nuclear medicine also takes residents from
: PGY-1.
: Best luck!
:
|
l********z
发帖数: 810 | 14 大大恭喜楼主，你是我们old CMG的榜样，我要提前做好明年scrmble的准备。 |
a****a
发帖数: 26 | |
l********y
发帖数: 2295 | 16 thanks a lot for sharing..it's really helpful.. |
L********8
发帖数: 248 | 17 There is only one Landao, but Laodao's spirit is all over...
【在 f****b 的大作中提到】
: Lao dao sencond emerge? took off hat.
: Congrad.
:
: and
: I
: medicine also takes residents from
|
b********o
发帖数: 466 | |
L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 19 热烈祝贺！
终于看到有同胞炒鸡蛋成功，大受鼓舞。虽然成功率依然是微乎其微，但至少证明了是
有希望的。虽然我的鸡蛋炒糊了，但是至少证明了当初的努力不是毫无胜算。
学到几点：
list 的贴子。就向他讨要。。。十一点多，我就一一把信发出去了。。这时挨到了12
点，开始忙乱加胡乱的用 eras apply. 刚发出-4-5个病理，电话响了（看来不过12点
半啊？）。
（学点1）：要勇敢，要打破常规，接触program 越早越好！
（学点2）：要上麦地版，要不怎么可能提前得到list、提前发信？
到了12点，开始忙乱加胡乱的用 eras apply.
（学点3）：看来发e-mail 更重要。
（学点4）：看来电话面试官只有program coordinator（PC) 一人，没有 PD 甚至没有
Faculty。猜想PC 打来电话之前，根据收到e-mail的资料，基本已经决定要您了，PC
打电话只不过听听您的英文，或者证实一下您说的和写的是否一致。
结论：Scramble 时候，硬指标比面试重要多了。
【建议版主】明年这时，一定将本贴置顶。届时请大家提醒！
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: 潜水很久了，获益非浅。感谢麦地和各位前辈, especially lancet。受 lancet鼓励现
: ,将scramble成功经历同大家分享, 算作对麦地+lancet 的回馈.
: 本人情况：step1/2>95, CS pass. 1st attempts.graduation >15 years (大家看到我
: ID中的mm，不要以为是美妹，实乃宝妈). 5years 国内临床，US phd, US citizen.
: 申请了共40个内科，得道2个interviews, including my home school. 当初任为match
: 的机会很大，因为读书，毕业，工作都没离开home school. 作observe的时候，认识
: 了PD, several attendings and residents. 且混得很熟. PD还给写了
: recommendation letter. After interview, 很多attendings and residents主动要求
: 在PD面前为我讲好话。vice PD 也对我很满一。当得知没match, 好象埃了当头一棒，
: 欲哭无
|
e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 20 Preliminary Surgery 其实不错。能够对美国的医疗体系有比较全面的了解，而且对自
己的临床基本技能，以及如何处理关系，和同行打交道，交流沟通，都是一般的
Observeship无法比的。第二年再申请的时候要容易许多。因为你有了美国实打实的临
床经验。不管你是再申请内科，外科，妇科，家庭科，或是其他的专业，都比你从新开
始申请要有优势。我知道的Preliminary Surgery第二年都找到了地方，找不到地方的
，很多都是一些特殊情况，比如有的人一定要干外科，有的人一定要干放射，或是眼科
等。如果你的目标仅仅是能找到个PGY-2的位置，一般都能找的到。不管是干什么科，
只要干两年，就可以申请lincense。有了lincense，就不愁找工作。很多Primary Care
的工作不需要你有什么Board Certificate，有了license就可以。另外，不管干什么专
业，只要你好好干，都能找得到工作。我也有朋友干nuclear medicine，说是虽然工作
难找，但他们那毕业的，最后还都找到了工作。今年经济不景气，情况有点特殊。找不找
得到下家，以及工作，关键还 |
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b**m
发帖数: 18 | 21 谢谢大家的鼓励和指点。原本想只能提供点滴经验，却得到了巨大的收获。麦地真是块
宝地。 |
e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 22 最好现在就打算想好第二年想干什么，早做准备，STEP3在年底前一定要通过。对再次
申请很有帮助。了解一下医院里还有什么别的专业可以招生，多和人交流（这个非常非常重要，别整天闷着头干活），多给人留好
印象，多干活，很多人在本医院就能找到下家，因为人家对你了解，这个比什么面试都
重要。我在干第一年外科的时候，高年资住院对我印象很好，问我有没有找到地方，如
果需要帮忙，他可以给他轮转的医院的家庭科介绍我，他说估计问题不大。由于我对家
庭科不敢兴趣，也就谢绝了他的好意。
接触的人多了，他们觉得你优秀，很多人都可以帮助你，也愿意帮助你。 |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 23 Just be aware that there are some drawbacks for preliminary surgery:
1) It doesn't count as the PGY-1 for specialties like IM, Peds, FM, and neurology;
2) It will use up one year residency funding, thus obtaining a spot of the
above specialties will be more difficult;
3) It will be very demanding and hard to arrange time for interviews in the
next application cycle.
Possible outcomes for preliminary surgery:
1) Match or promote to PGY-2 categorical surgery if such a position becomes
available;
2 |
S******A
发帖数: 413 | 24 趁大牛们还在，问个问题。Prelim surg 对match OB/GYN有好处还是坏处啊？我很想今
年试试OB，不过完全没有把握，如果prelim surg 能做后备就更好了。 |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 25 OB/GYN
In 2009, 1,185 positions offered, and there were 965 US seniors applicants;
In 2010, 1,187 positions offered, and there were 1,035 US seniors applicants.
OB/GYN residency is “categorical” so no separate PGY-1 internship is
required. A preliminary surgery training could be a positive factor only if
the OB/GYN program can figure out one additional year funding, otherwise it
could be a negative.
For this reason, I'd suggest using IM as backup.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 趁大牛们还在，问个问题。Prelim surg 对match OB/GYN有好处还是坏处啊？我很想今
: 年试试OB，不过完全没有把握，如果prelim surg 能做后备就更好了。
|
S******A
发帖数: 413 | 26 恩，多谢指教。想不到OB的申请人比spot还少，岂不是只要AMG愿意申请就能match，羡
慕啊。不知道OB/GYN有PGY2 spot的可能性有多大，他们喜不喜欢prelim surg的人。版
上没啥IMG申请OB的相关经验，但主观感觉OB不是个IMG friendly的专科。个人不太喜
欢内科，但有时也别无选择啊。 |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 27 OB/GYN is actually pretty competitive. This year only 915 out of 1,035 US
seniors matched. There were 1,777 applicants for the match (for the 1,187
positions). OB/GYN is categorical so the training starts at PGY-1. There has
been very few PGY-2 spots opened up in the past, and the chance for a PGY-2
spot is pretty small.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 恩，多谢指教。想不到OB的申请人比spot还少，岂不是只要AMG愿意申请就能match，羡
: 慕啊。不知道OB/GYN有PGY2 spot的可能性有多大，他们喜不喜欢prelim surg的人。版
: 上没啥IMG申请OB的相关经验，但主观感觉OB不是个IMG friendly的专科。个人不太喜
: 欢内科，但有时也别无选择啊。
|
S******A
发帖数: 413 | |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 29 Some FM doctors can perform certain surgical procedures. Fellowship-trained
IM doctors also do some procedures.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 看来很难啊，唉。
|
e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 30 ericusa说的虽然是事实，但是有点太夸大了Preliminary Surgery的坏处。没有他说的
那么可怕。我做Preliminary Surgery的时候，Preliminary Surgery Intern去的最多
的就是Family Practice。去内科的也有。进了医院做Intern，就给了你接触别的医生
的机会，多交流，多和别的医生，住院医接触，机会就大大增加，这个是你整天闷着头
在家里上网寻找program申请时无法体会的。只要你优秀，只要你做的好，没有人找不
到地方。我知道的找不到地方的都是做Intern时表现不好的。
所以说，能否找得到下家，关键还是靠自己。如果怕风险拒绝做Preliminary Surgery
，再来一次match尝试，不会比上一年增加什么机会，因为你本身就没有多少变化,年龄还长了一岁。但是做了Preliminary Surgery，很多地方你就不一样了，你接触的人多了，进了这个圈子，机会会大大增加。 |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 31 Haha, not可怕. For people with Green Card/US citizenship and like IM/FM/Peds
, do one year externship could be a good choice too. It won't deal with the
funding issue thus more opportunities, and will be more flexible for the application/interview.
Surgery
龄还长了一岁。但是做了Preliminary Surgery，很多地方你就不一样了，你接触的人
多了，进了这个圈子，机会会大大增加。
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: ericusa说的虽然是事实，但是有点太夸大了Preliminary Surgery的坏处。没有他说的
: 那么可怕。我做Preliminary Surgery的时候，Preliminary Surgery Intern去的最多
: 的就是Family Practice。去内科的也有。进了医院做Intern，就给了你接触别的医生
: 的机会，多交流，多和别的医生，住院医接触，机会就大大增加，这个是你整天闷着头
: 在家里上网寻找program申请时无法体会的。只要你优秀，只要你做的好，没有人找不
: 到地方。我知道的找不到地方的都是做Intern时表现不好的。
: 所以说，能否找得到下家，关键还是靠自己。如果怕风险拒绝做Preliminary Surgery
: ，再来一次match尝试，不会比上一年增加什么机会，因为你本身就没有多少变化,年龄还长了一岁。但是做了Preliminary Surgery，很多地方你就不一样了，你接触的人多了，进了这个圈子，机会会大大增加。
|
S******A
发帖数: 413 | 32 eufool101 大侠，您知道的去FM的人是直接上PGY2 还是从PGY1再来一遍啊？要不是这
个Fund的问题我也许就赌一把只用prelim surg 后备了，就怕人家PGY1不愿意给prelim
的人。 |
e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 33 具体是PGY2还是PGY1我不清楚，但是要再做三年FM，但是一年外科的经历对以后工作发
展只有好处，没有坏处。我认识的一个40多岁的印度人，就是非常难match，最后总算
找到了一个prelim surg，然后因为做prelim surg的关系，接触了隔壁医院的ＦＭ，人
家直接给他Ｐｒｅ－ｍａｔｃｈ，这是前年的事情。这个印度人说，如果没有这个
prelim surg的经历，他很难再ｍａｔｃｈ上任何ｐｒｏｇｒａｍ。
prelim
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: eufool101 大侠，您知道的去FM的人是直接上PGY2 还是从PGY1再来一遍啊？要不是这
: 个Fund的问题我也许就赌一把只用prelim surg 后备了，就怕人家PGY1不愿意给prelim
: 的人。
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S******A
发帖数: 413 | 34 多谢分享。如果做三年似乎是从头来，这倒是个好消息哦，拿不到PGY2还有机会从头开
始。
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: 具体是PGY2还是PGY1我不清楚，但是要再做三年FM，但是一年外科的经历对以后工作发
: 展只有好处，没有坏处。我认识的一个40多岁的印度人，就是非常难match，最后总算
: 找到了一个prelim surg，然后因为做prelim surg的关系，接触了隔壁医院的ＦＭ，人
: 家直接给他Ｐｒｅ－ｍａｔｃｈ，这是前年的事情。这个印度人说，如果没有这个
: prelim surg的经历，他很难再ｍａｔｃｈ上任何ｐｒｏｇｒａｍ。
:
: prelim
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 35 FM must start over. Programs with more flexible funding will take those PGY-
1 people.
Yes preliminary surgery training can open the door for some opportunities,
it's an invaluable experience, especially for people don't have much USCE.
For the unmatched AMGs, some took a preliminary surgery position if they
like surgical specialties. Others will stay in school for research or
clinical work, and reapply next year.
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: 具体是PGY2还是PGY1我不清楚，但是要再做三年FM，但是一年外科的经历对以后工作发
: 展只有好处，没有坏处。我认识的一个40多岁的印度人，就是非常难match，最后总算
: 找到了一个prelim surg，然后因为做prelim surg的关系，接触了隔壁医院的ＦＭ，人
: 家直接给他Ｐｒｅ－ｍａｔｃｈ，这是前年的事情。这个印度人说，如果没有这个
: prelim surg的经历，他很难再ｍａｔｃｈ上任何ｐｒｏｇｒａｍ。
:
: prelim
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e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 36 One big difference.
You get paid by doing surgical internship, and you received one year ACGME-
credited residency training, and you can apply medical license in some
states (most sates need 2 years of PGY training for IMG). Some people can get a
decent job doing primary care with only medical license and experience.
By doing externship, you get no payment and no credits.
Peds
the
application/interview.
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Haha, not可怕. For people with Green Card/US citizenship and like IM/FM/Peds
: , do one year externship could be a good choice too. It won't deal with the
: funding issue thus more opportunities, and will be more flexible for the application/interview.
:
: Surgery
: 龄还长了一岁。但是做了Preliminary Surgery，很多地方你就不一样了，你接触的人
: 多了，进了这个圈子，机会会大大增加。
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 37 This is true. However, for people don't want to be limited to a few options,
they may consider other alternatives. One year's residency salary isn't a
big deal for them.
For CMGs, if getting into the door first is very important, sure preliminary
surgery is a good choice.
get a decent job doing primary care with only medical license and 1/2 years
.
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: One big difference.
: You get paid by doing surgical internship, and you received one year ACGME-
: credited residency training, and you can apply medical license in some
: states (most sates need 2 years of PGY training for IMG). Some people can get a
: decent job doing primary care with only medical license and experience.
: By doing externship, you get no payment and no credits.
:
: Peds
: the
: application/interview.
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S******A
发帖数: 413 | 38 我觉得两位的意见都很中肯。AMG和IMG自身条件不同，对于prelim的选择是不一样的。
对于IMG来说，进门和match上是最重要的，prelim 就是个珍贵的机会。而对于AMG来说
可能心仪的program 和专业是更重要的，别的方面加分更要紧，有时prelim倒有可能起
反作用。希望以后多点有经验的大侠来加入这种有指导意义的讨论。 |
e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 39 That's for AMGs. For CMGs, I would recommend to take the Pre surg if you
have a chance. It's much worthy than doing externship, research,other
clinical works, or stay home.
For the unmatched AMGs, some took a preliminary surgery position if they
like surgical specialties. Others will stay in school for research or
clinical work, and reapply next year.
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: This is true. However, for people don't want to be limited to a few options,
: they may consider other alternatives. One year's residency salary isn't a
: big deal for them.
: For CMGs, if getting into the door first is very important, sure preliminary
: surgery is a good choice.
:
: get a decent job doing primary care with only medical license and 1/2 years
: .
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e*******1
发帖数: 117 | 40 Don't worry. Changing specialties is very common and understandable.
I know people who have changed from Radiology to Psych, from Pathology to IM
, from others to Surgery.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 多谢分享。如果做三年似乎是从头来，这倒是个好消息哦，拿不到PGY2还有机会从头开
: 始。
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S******A
发帖数: 413 | 41 呵呵，您的话真有点定心丸的作用。本来想着孤注一掷只申OB/GYN 的赌一年，突然发
现prelim surg似乎是个不错的后备，一下子觉得路又宽了一点， 多谢多谢。
IM
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: Don't worry. Changing specialties is very common and understandable.
: I know people who have changed from Radiology to Psych, from Pathology to IM
: , from others to Surgery.
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 42 Let's look at the worst case. Because OB/GYN is competitive, if you could
only get prelim surgery, what would you do next year?
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，您的话真有点定心丸的作用。本来想着孤注一掷只申OB/GYN 的赌一年，突然发
: 现prelim surg似乎是个不错的后备，一下子觉得路又宽了一点， 多谢多谢。
:
: IM
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S******A
发帖数: 413 | 43 说实话，我也只能赌一年。如果做prelim 能给我一些机会第二年再转回OB/GYN那自然
是最好的结果。但我第二年肯定不会只盯着一个专科了，我肯定还会申EM，anes和IM做
后备的。自己还有点SICU沾边的相关经验，也许可以试试。只不过很想去个手术专科，
给自己一年任性一下。
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Let's look at the worst case. Because OB/GYN is competitive, if you could
: only get prelim surgery, what would you do next year?
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 44 I see. Do you like general surgery? If so you may try this way this year:
OB/GYN
General surgery
Prelim surgery
You will never know where the invites may come from.
If not, you may try OB/GYN and prelim surgery.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 说实话，我也只能赌一年。如果做prelim 能给我一些机会第二年再转回OB/GYN那自然
: 是最好的结果。但我第二年肯定不会只盯着一个专科了，我肯定还会申EM，anes和IM做
: 后备的。自己还有点SICU沾边的相关经验，也许可以试试。只不过很想去个手术专科，
: 给自己一年任性一下。
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S******A
发帖数: 413 | 45 呵呵，我是女生，好像不具有做general surgery的魄力，只敢壮着胆子试试OB，算半
个外科吧。 |
L********8
发帖数: 248 | 46 Agree with eufool. From our CMG standpoint, prelim surg is a way to go. For
outstanding AMG is a different story.
Just give an example from prelim surgery in my program. We have 3 prelim
surgery residents each year.
2006-2007: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 prelim surgery PGY-2 (FMG
); 1 to IM PGY-1 (AMG);
2007-2008: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to IM PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to
FM PGY-1 (AMG)
2008-2009: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (CMG-Lancet2008); 1 to military
surgery PGY-2 (AMG)
【在 e*******1 的大作中提到】
: Preliminary Surgery 其实不错。能够对美国的医疗体系有比较全面的了解，而且对自
: 己的临床基本技能，以及如何处理关系，和同行打交道，交流沟通，都是一般的
: Observeship无法比的。第二年再申请的时候要容易许多。因为你有了美国实打实的临
: 床经验。不管你是再申请内科，外科，妇科，家庭科，或是其他的专业，都比你从新开
: 始申请要有优势。我知道的Preliminary Surgery第二年都找到了地方，找不到地方的
: ，很多都是一些特殊情况，比如有的人一定要干外科，有的人一定要干放射，或是眼科
: 等。如果你的目标仅仅是能找到个PGY-2的位置，一般都能找的到。不管是干什么科，
: 只要干两年，就可以申请lincense。有了lincense，就不愁找工作。很多Primary Care
: 的工作不需要你有什么Board Certificate，有了license就可以。另外，不管干什么专
: 业，只要你好好干，都能找得到工作。我也有朋友干nuclear medicine，说是虽然工作
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L********8
发帖数: 248 | 47 There are lots of female surgeon in America. The PD of general surgery of my
previous hospital in NYC is a female.
General surgery resident, then breast surgery fellowship is a very good way
for female. No emergency, low surgical risk. Life style is much better than
OB/GYN.
【在 S******A 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，我是女生，好像不具有做general surgery的魄力，只敢壮着胆子试试OB，算半
: 个外科吧。
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R**********n
发帖数: 473 | 48 This discussion really opens up a new window for me. How many places have
prelim surgery? Can everyone apply for them? Is there any special
requirements? It seems an excellent backup for cmg.
Thanks all!
For
FMG
【在 L********8 的大作中提到】
: Agree with eufool. From our CMG standpoint, prelim surg is a way to go. For
: outstanding AMG is a different story.
: Just give an example from prelim surgery in my program. We have 3 prelim
: surgery residents each year.
: 2006-2007: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 prelim surgery PGY-2 (FMG
: ); 1 to IM PGY-1 (AMG);
: 2007-2008: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to IM PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to
: FM PGY-1 (AMG)
: 2008-2009: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (CMG-Lancet2008); 1 to military
: surgery PGY-2 (AMG)
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b**m
发帖数: 18 | 49 哈哈，今晚逛回来，发现我这贴子讨论的满热闹。拜脱lancet,eufool,and eric几位大
牛帮俺推建下一年奔啥specialty. 俺的情况大家也清楚。先叩首了。 |
l*******8
发帖数: 1745 | 50 能不能私下问问你的那位做核医学的师兄的情况啊：），sent message to your
mitbbs mail box:-)
For
FMG
【在 L********8 的大作中提到】
: Agree with eufool. From our CMG standpoint, prelim surg is a way to go. For
: outstanding AMG is a different story.
: Just give an example from prelim surgery in my program. We have 3 prelim
: surgery residents each year.
: 2006-2007: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 prelim surgery PGY-2 (FMG
: ); 1 to IM PGY-1 (AMG);
: 2007-2008: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to IM PGY-1 (FMG); 1 to
: FM PGY-1 (AMG)
: 2008-2009: 1 to Categorical surgery PGY-1 (CMG-Lancet2008); 1 to military
: surgery PGY-2 (AMG)
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a*****o
发帖数: 174 | 51 Eric, could you explain a little about the funding issue of PGY-1 or 2? What
is that about?
Thanks. |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 52 The majority of residency funding comes from the government Medicare program
. The total available funding is tied to the resident's terminal specialty.
Here are three examples.
Resident A matched to an IM program, which is 3 years in training. No
problem here, because the maximum Medicare funding for an IM spot is 3 years.
Resident B matched to a 1-year preliminary surgery program. He later matched
to a PGY-2 categorical general surgery program, which requires another 4
years of training. So th
【在 a*****o 的大作中提到】
: Eric, could you explain a little about the funding issue of PGY-1 or 2? What
: is that about?
: Thanks.
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b**m
发帖数: 18 | 53 Eric, if you go to the NRMP website, under the my report, there is a
regional statistics by specialty. In that page, there is a graph listing
the PGY-2 positions for match/unfilled. Are those positons for prelim?
How can the programs comes out so many positions for PGY-2?
Thank you for your explaination. |
a*****2
发帖数: 200 | 54 Eric, thanks for your explanation.
You kind of mentioned it in your previous post,but I am sure if I understood
you correctly---Does this funding rule apply to everyone, including AMGs,
GreenCard, American citizens?
program
.
years.
matched
applies
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: The majority of residency funding comes from the government Medicare program
: . The total available funding is tied to the resident's terminal specialty.
: Here are three examples.
: Resident A matched to an IM program, which is 3 years in training. No
: problem here, because the maximum Medicare funding for an IM spot is 3 years.
: Resident B matched to a 1-year preliminary surgery program. He later matched
: to a PGY-2 categorical general surgery program, which requires another 4
: years of training. So th
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 55 Those PGY-2 are “advanced programs”, the training will start at the second
year. People without any residency and people in one-year only PGY-1 (
prelim medicine, prelim surgery, and transitional year) can apply for those
positions.
For example, I'm a fresh graduate without any residency experience. If I
apply for a Rads PGY-2 position, I also need to apply for a one-year PGY-1
spot to cover the first-year internship training.
For people already in one-year PGY-1, they may apply for a PGY-2 spot
【在 b**m 的大作中提到】
: Eric, if you go to the NRMP website, under the my report, there is a
: regional statistics by specialty. In that page, there is a graph listing
: the PGY-2 positions for match/unfilled. Are those positons for prelim?
: How can the programs comes out so many positions for PGY-2?
: Thank you for your explaination.
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 56 Yes for everyone.
Some residency positions are funded by private parties, for example, the
hospital. Then they don't care about the rule because they pay for the money
. In this case they'd pick the candidates with previous residency experience.
Prelim surgery is good if you don't have better choices. One year of US
clinical experience certainly will strength your application.
understood
【在 a*****2 的大作中提到】
: Eric, thanks for your explanation.
: You kind of mentioned it in your previous post,but I am sure if I understood
: you correctly---Does this funding rule apply to everyone, including AMGs,
: GreenCard, American citizens?
:
: program
: .
: years.
: matched
: applies
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f******r
发帖数: 117 | 57 Eric所说的这笔钱适用于matched positions.
如果一个医院prematch一个住院医，这个住院医的钱就是医院出
所以很多给prematch 的医院住院医工作量很大，要帮医院把钱赚回来
money
experience.
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Yes for everyone.
: Some residency positions are funded by private parties, for example, the
: hospital. Then they don't care about the rule because they pay for the money
: . In this case they'd pick the candidates with previous residency experience.
: Prelim surgery is good if you don't have better choices. One year of US
: clinical experience certainly will strength your application.
:
: understood
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