R******e
发帖数: 52 | 1 middle 30's, working as a patent scientist in a big law now, family cannot
move together to BOSTON, waiting for green card, my English is just so-so,
and shy/introvert/not talkative (but quite friendly) personality
Havard full-time costs 40k tuition + 20k extra living expense x 3 years
cannot keep my current job
family cannot move together
Local nameless school part-time costs 8k only x 4 years
can keep my current job
stay together with family, no extra living expense
Any advice? |
a**********m
发帖数: 2098 | 2 There should be plenty of decent law schools in Los Angeles area. You shoul
d try applying more schools, since it's just the beginning of the applicatio
n season. If your credentials helped you get admitted into HLS, USC or UCLA
will be more than willing to offer you scholarships, and perhaps a full rid
e.
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: middle 30's, working as a patent scientist in a big law now, family cannot
: move together to BOSTON, waiting for green card, my English is just so-so,
: and shy/introvert/not talkative (but quite friendly) personality
: Havard full-time costs 40k tuition + 20k extra living expense x 3 years
: cannot keep my current job
: family cannot move together
: Local nameless school part-time costs 8k only x 4 years
: can keep my current job
: stay together with family, no extra living expense
: Any advice?
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 3 I have ucla admission as well.
But how can I get scholarship from ucla? I don't believe my credentials are
really that super. I am just a qualified applicant with some good luck. My
LSAT 171 is probably in the lower half of Harvard range.
shoul
applicatio
UCLA
rid
【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: There should be plenty of decent law schools in Los Angeles area. You shoul
: d try applying more schools, since it's just the beginning of the applicatio
: n season. If your credentials helped you get admitted into HLS, USC or UCLA
: will be more than willing to offer you scholarships, and perhaps a full rid
: e.
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m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | |
a**********m
发帖数: 2098 | 5 UCLA full-time program would be your best shot. I don't know why you even w
anna try the "crappy" school's part-time program...
are
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: I have ucla admission as well.
: But how can I get scholarship from ucla? I don't believe my credentials are
: really that super. I am just a qualified applicant with some good luck. My
: LSAT 171 is probably in the lower half of Harvard range.
:
: shoul
: applicatio
: UCLA
: rid
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 6 A simple reason, money,
crappy part time allows me to keep my full time job that is avout 80k
Also they gave me generous scholarship so final Cost is less than 10k a
year.
Also, if I just want to keep doing patent job, I don't need a good jd to get
a job since I have a job in big law already.
w
【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: UCLA full-time program would be your best shot. I don't know why you even w
: anna try the "crappy" school's part-time program...
:
: are
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 7 Nope, did not expect get Harvard admission, was just applying for a try and
see, who knows, probably very lucky or did a good job at 15 min Skype
interview.
【在 m**********r 的大作中提到】
: Is today April 1st?
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a**********m
发帖数: 2098 | 8 In this case, I would advise you keep the job and go to the part-time
program.
get
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: A simple reason, money,
: crappy part time allows me to keep my full time job that is avout 80k
: Also they gave me generous scholarship so final Cost is less than 10k a
: year.
: Also, if I just want to keep doing patent job, I don't need a good jd to get
: a job since I have a job in big law already.
:
: w
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a********l
发帖数: 73 | 9 Try UCI Law school--they talked about giving full tuition scholarship to
patent law-oriented students. |
L*********h
发帖数: 2617 | 10 why did u apply for a full time program in Boston in the first place?
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: middle 30's, working as a patent scientist in a big law now, family cannot
: move together to BOSTON, waiting for green card, my English is just so-so,
: and shy/introvert/not talkative (but quite friendly) personality
: Havard full-time costs 40k tuition + 20k extra living expense x 3 years
: cannot keep my current job
: family cannot move together
: Local nameless school part-time costs 8k only x 4 years
: can keep my current job
: stay together with family, no extra living expense
: Any advice?
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 11 Thank you for the advice. Yes, I did apply for UCI and got their scholarship
. My attorny friends told me it is going to be a top law school, but it is
more gambling, since it is not fully accredited yet.
【在 a********l 的大作中提到】
: Try UCI Law school--they talked about giving full tuition scholarship to
: patent law-oriented students.
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 12 Harvard is not merely "a" full time program in Boston, right?
it is the best (at least top 3) law school, for the name recognition, no
particular other reasons, just try and see, also why not? exactly the same
application materials and just another $80.
【在 L*********h 的大作中提到】
: why did u apply for a full time program in Boston in the first place?
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 13 您这个属于答非所问。楼主纠结之处在于他不甘心辞职去读法学院。那个哈佛只是用来
个赚眼球的。HYS 每年非 ABC 的华裔可能很少很少。
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: Harvard is not merely "a" full time program in Boston, right?
: it is the best (at least top 3) law school, for the name recognition, no
: particular other reasons, just try and see, also why not? exactly the same
: application materials and just another $80.
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i********t
发帖数: 18 | 14 It depends on your long-term career plan.
Do you plan to stay with your current firm for the next 5+ years? Do you
want to make partner at your current firm? If you do, just choose some local
school. By the time you graduate, your work experience rather than your
school title would be your bargain chip.
If you plan to move to a different firm later on anyway, just go with
Harvard. The name will be with u for your whole life. |
c**********r
发帖数: 138 | 15 想问一下，去了biglaw，若做不了partner的怎么办？这个问题应该是大多数人都应该
考虑的吧。这个职业可以做多久？ |
L*********h
发帖数: 2617 | 16
既然你不想去Boston，为啥当初申请在Boston的program涅？总不能去Harvard又不去
Boston吧？
你要说Harvard is not merely "a" full time program in Boston, 那就去咯，还跟
这问啥纠结什么劲？
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: Harvard is not merely "a" full time program in Boston, right?
: it is the best (at least top 3) law school, for the name recognition, no
: particular other reasons, just try and see, also why not? exactly the same
: application materials and just another $80.
|
m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | 17 你有没有想过如果明天地球不转这世界会怎样？
【在 c**********r 的大作中提到】
: 想问一下，去了biglaw，若做不了partner的怎么办？这个问题应该是大多数人都应该
: 考虑的吧。这个职业可以做多久？
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c**********r
发帖数: 138 | 18
这个倒没有想过。因为我觉得这个概率不大。但是如果你想通过你的类比来传达的信息
是不必考虑不可知的明
天的话，我不点赞。
【在 m**********r 的大作中提到】
: 你有没有想过如果明天地球不转这世界会怎样？
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 19 lz你决定了吗？如果去哈佛，我有三个朋友在哈佛，和你类似情况的，介绍你认识。
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: middle 30's, working as a patent scientist in a big law now, family cannot
: move together to BOSTON, waiting for green card, my English is just so-so,
: and shy/introvert/not talkative (but quite friendly) personality
: Havard full-time costs 40k tuition + 20k extra living expense x 3 years
: cannot keep my current job
: family cannot move together
: Local nameless school part-time costs 8k only x 4 years
: can keep my current job
: stay together with family, no extra living expense
: Any advice?
|
R******e
发帖数: 52 | 20 请查你的站内邮件，多谢
【在 i****y 的大作中提到】
: lz你决定了吗？如果去哈佛，我有三个朋友在哈佛，和你类似情况的，介绍你认识。
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 21 据说，shelf life is 10 years, 要们自己有客户给公司拉生意做equity partner（真
老板），要么是组里面的不可或缺的成员，成为假老板service partner或counsel，要
么走人，3选1，没有万年associate可以做
【在 c**********r 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个倒没有想过。因为我觉得这个概率不大。但是如果你想通过你的类比来传达的信息
: 是不必考虑不可知的明
: 天的话，我不点赞。
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R******e
发帖数: 52 | 22 多谢
local
【在 i********t 的大作中提到】
: It depends on your long-term career plan.
: Do you plan to stay with your current firm for the next 5+ years? Do you
: want to make partner at your current firm? If you do, just choose some local
: school. By the time you graduate, your work experience rather than your
: school title would be your bargain chip.
: If you plan to move to a different firm later on anyway, just go with
: Harvard. The name will be with u for your whole life.
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g**g
发帖数: 1121 | 23 我倒觉得这跟现在的career plan关系不大，因为career planning常常改变的，特别是
读了HLS之后，选择完全不一样，眼界也不一样，对钱的看法，对自己career的期望值
和计划，都会很快改变。
我给你两条实在的建议：
1. 如果选择full time读书，就去Harvard，不要考虑其他学校的奖学金。理由同下。
所以要么HLS，要么就part time读书。
2. 在HLS和part time之间，我建议去读full time HLS。理由有三：
第一，在美国，有学位的话，整个career path和混的圈子都不一样，起点高很多，跟
没有学位在firm里面做specialist是不一样的，而且HLS的毕业生，自己努力的话，法
律之外也有很多选择。虽说事在人为，但是再不济，找一个小点的所，做个十几年还是
没问题的，没有学位或者读个本地的普通part time，你觉得你做合伙人的可能性有多
少，不做的话能挣多少钱？可能是完全不一样的数量级。特别是你提到你并不是超级牛
人，但是这两年申请人少，可能有lucky的成分，那这个机会就更难得。
第二，你现在对钱的看法我理解，但是根据我的经验，如果你选择读书的话，你的观念
会很快改变。举个例子，当年读法学院一年级的时候，大家的想法都跟你差不多，觉得
很贵，花钱很节省，还有人干一些猥琐的事情（这些都是针对所有学生，不只是比较困
难的人，大部分白人、犹太人都一样，有免费pizza一下子就抢光了）。到第二年就没
人提这事了，觉得当年的自己很傻，为了一点小钱败坏了自己在同届中的名誉。到了第
二年实习的时候，大家都是抢着付账，因为大家都发现跟事业和声誉比起来，这点钱根
本不算什么，而机会和声誉是钱买不到的——如果你真的读书，也要记得这一点。
Harvard的need-based奖学金和贷款计划很好，读下来并且一家人体面生活不成问题，
你进了学校，面试过了，对行业的情况，包括薪酬，更有了解了，就会明白我的话。
第三，哲学一点，人生不是看终点，是看过程。所以上面说了这么多，但也许更重要的
是，你的人生轨迹是怎样的，会有怎样的经历和体验，而不是最终死的时候存款帐号上
的一个数字，去做一个风险收益分析。所以说，也许HLS的学位不能保证说你最后的那
个数字更高，但是它给你提供的可能性和轨迹是不一样的。更何况，这个世界上本来就
没有100%的东西，如果说你要寻找对自己将来能挣多少钱的保证的话，it may be one
of the closest things to a guarantee you can get。 |
R******e
发帖数: 52 | 24 thank you very much for the advice.
【在 g**g 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得这跟现在的career plan关系不大，因为career planning常常改变的，特别是
: 读了HLS之后，选择完全不一样，眼界也不一样，对钱的看法，对自己career的期望值
: 和计划，都会很快改变。
: 我给你两条实在的建议：
: 1. 如果选择full time读书，就去Harvard，不要考虑其他学校的奖学金。理由同下。
: 所以要么HLS，要么就part time读书。
: 2. 在HLS和part time之间，我建议去读full time HLS。理由有三：
: 第一，在美国，有学位的话，整个career path和混的圈子都不一样，起点高很多，跟
: 没有学位在firm里面做specialist是不一样的，而且HLS的毕业生，自己努力的话，法
: 律之外也有很多选择。虽说事在人为，但是再不济，找一个小点的所，做个十几年还是
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