N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 1 What's going on over there in UK? Are they still using the mark-to-market
accounting when calculating public debt? That's so 2008. Somebody please
teaches them the latest mark-to-mirage, extend and pretend, "Hope and
Change" Obama accounting to make the public debt disappear.
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Excuse Me Again But Britain's Public Debt Doubled Again Overnight to Now 4
TRILLION £
And you still count?
It was only yesterday that Britain's s | w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 2 It doesn't matter what's going on.
What matter is what the market think it's going on.
Ohh, wait, you are dead-hard bear since March 2009,
but the market doesn't think so.
So it's either you are wrong, or the market is wrong.
economists
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: What's going on over there in UK? Are they still using the mark-to-market
: accounting when calculating public debt? That's so 2008. Somebody please
: teaches them the latest mark-to-mirage, extend and pretend, "Hope and
: Change" Obama accounting to make the public debt disappear.
: ========================================================================
: Excuse Me Again But Britain's Public Debt Doubled Again Overnight to Now 4
: TRILLION £
: And you still count?
: It was only yesterday that Britain's s
| N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 3
Yeah. Let's see what market has been saying since 2000 when measuring by
the honest money - gold.
... or you'd rather go with this one instead.
【在 w*******o 的大作中提到】
: It doesn't matter what's going on.
: What matter is what the market think it's going on.
: Ohh, wait, you are dead-hard bear since March 2009,
: but the market doesn't think so.
: So it's either you are wrong, or the market is wrong.
:
: economists
| w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 4 LOL,bottom line,so you think the market is wrong?
Ok, if you believe the market should measured by gold, not the "worthless
paper" I can tell you that this may make sense only when you need to buy
your food from super market with gold, not the greenback $$$. Before that,
the market should be measured by $$$.
The gold is measured by $$$, not the $$$ measured by gold.
That's how it works, accept it or not, that's the reality.
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
:
: Yeah. Let's see what market has been saying since 2000 when measuring by
: the honest money - gold.
: ... or you'd rather go with this one instead.
| s********n
发帖数: 1962 | 5 用 gold 买 food 也无非就是多一道兑换手续而已。
其实这就是个参照系的问题。参照系之间都是可以转换的，所以没什么不 make
sense 的。有些问题换个参照系可以看得更清楚更容易理解，至少数学物理都是
这样。经济是不是这样我不妄下定论。不过纸币脱离贵重金属只有几十年的历史，
金属作为货币却有几千年的历史，而且这几千年中还总有一些很短的时期纸币当
道。所以到底谁靠谁 measure 还真别急着下定论。
【在 w*******o 的大作中提到】
: LOL,bottom line,so you think the market is wrong?
: Ok, if you believe the market should measured by gold, not the "worthless
: paper" I can tell you that this may make sense only when you need to buy
: your food from super market with gold, not the greenback $$$. Before that,
: the market should be measured by $$$.
: The gold is measured by $$$, not the $$$ measured by gold.
: That's how it works, accept it or not, that's the reality.
| k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 6 It is not a matter about who measures who. Now we are still using US dollars.
His chart of Dow/Gold ratio shows that gold has been outperforming Dow in
the past ten years. That's it. His bearishness in the main stock market does
not mean that he has been sitting with his cash and avoiding other
investments.
Just ask youself a question, if you were given a chance to go back to year
2000 and you were bullish on US stock market, would you put your money in
Dow or gold?
【在 w*******o 的大作中提到】
: LOL,bottom line,so you think the market is wrong?
: Ok, if you believe the market should measured by gold, not the "worthless
: paper" I can tell you that this may make sense only when you need to buy
: your food from super market with gold, not the greenback $$$. Before that,
: the market should be measured by $$$.
: The gold is measured by $$$, not the $$$ measured by gold.
: That's how it works, accept it or not, that's the reality.
| w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 7 马车作为交通工具有几千年的历史，而汽车作为交通工具只有几十年，但这并不代表我
们以后就会从汽车时代返回到马车时代。
在可预见的将来，我不觉得黄金会重新成为货币。
用 gold 买 food 也无非就是多一道兑换手续而已。
其实这就是个参照系的问题。参照系之间都是可以转换的，所以没什么不 make
sense 的。有些问题换个参照系可以看得更清楚更容易理解，至少数学物理都是
这样。经济是不是这样我不妄下定论。不过纸币脱离贵重金属只有几十年的历史，
金属作为货币却有几千年的历史，而且这几千年中还总有一些很短的时期纸币当
道。所以到底谁靠谁 measure 还真别急着下定论。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 用 gold 买 food 也无非就是多一道兑换手续而已。
: 其实这就是个参照系的问题。参照系之间都是可以转换的，所以没什么不 make
: sense 的。有些问题换个参照系可以看得更清楚更容易理解，至少数学物理都是
: 这样。经济是不是这样我不妄下定论。不过纸币脱离贵重金属只有几十年的历史，
: 金属作为货币却有几千年的历史，而且这几千年中还总有一些很短的时期纸币当
: 道。所以到底谁靠谁 measure 还真别急着下定论。
| w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 8 You are making an assumption that you know Dow will down,
and gold will up, but there is no IF, if there is a IF,
I'd rather buy lottery, why bother?
dollars.
does
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: It is not a matter about who measures who. Now we are still using US dollars.
: His chart of Dow/Gold ratio shows that gold has been outperforming Dow in
: the past ten years. That's it. His bearishness in the main stock market does
: not mean that he has been sitting with his cash and avoiding other
: investments.
: Just ask youself a question, if you were given a chance to go back to year
: 2000 and you were bullish on US stock market, would you put your money in
: Dow or gold?
| k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 9 My point is that now we know the so called "gold bubble" and the market
crash in 2008 were created by the easy money from FED. It was an "IF"
back then.
But when this situation continues now, how do you think the down trend
of Dow/Gold ratio can change?
It is not an "IF" when you see the current status.
【在 w*******o 的大作中提到】
: You are making an assumption that you know Dow will down,
: and gold will up, but there is no IF, if there is a IF,
: I'd rather buy lottery, why bother?
:
: dollars.
: does
| w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 10 当股市恢复到真正由于经济复苏而涨的时候,
就是DOW/GOLD向上的时候
怎么知道?有很多Indicators的，
其中一个是我以前提到过的
就看看船运的股票什么时候开始启动
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: My point is that now we know the so called "gold bubble" and the market
: crash in 2008 were created by the easy money from FED. It was an "IF"
: back then.
: But when this situation continues now, how do you think the down trend
: of Dow/Gold ratio can change?
: It is not an "IF" when you see the current status.
| k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 11 this one I agree
Dow/Gold will rise after hitting its bottom
but IMO, its bottom is still qutie under the horizone
BDI is in its hopeless down trend after a SHS formation
It needs at least a couple years to pick up
【在 w*******o 的大作中提到】
: 当股市恢复到真正由于经济复苏而涨的时候,
: 就是DOW/GOLD向上的时候
: 怎么知道?有很多Indicators的，
: 其中一个是我以前提到过的
: 就看看船运的股票什么时候开始启动
| P********e
发帖数: 2610 | 12 I saw the news yesterday
I'm thinking where is GS's report on this?are they blind?
economists
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: What's going on over there in UK? Are they still using the mark-to-market
: accounting when calculating public debt? That's so 2008. Somebody please
: teaches them the latest mark-to-mirage, extend and pretend, "Hope and
: Change" Obama accounting to make the public debt disappear.
: ========================================================================
: Excuse Me Again But Britain's Public Debt Doubled Again Overnight to Now 4
: TRILLION £
: And you still count?
: It was only yesterday that Britain's s
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