h*********t
发帖数: 147 | 1 简明地说下我的问题：
最初打算140PP，然后同时提交我和我LD的485
律师建议我单独CONCURRENT 140+485，觉得比140PP便宜，时间也和140PP+485差不多 （他觉得我本身条件也还
不错）。 等140批了，再提交我LD的485 （因为他还没申请OPT，怕有移民倾向。于是我
交了140+485的律师费和申请费。
我在板上看到了有人140和485同时批准，并没有第一步第二步，于是发邮件问律师。万
一我同时140+485批准了，还没来得及递LD的485怎么办。
律师没正面回答，只说我LD is good to submit 485 with me (concurrent)
有谁能回答下我的问题，LD的485是只要我485批准了，他随时都能提交申请，还是是必
须在我485批准以前提交？
我们是不太愿意两个人concurrent,因为没OPT风险实在太大了。 |
e******r
发帖数: 9977 | 2 低脚路过。。。
据说只要贤伉俪在递交485前昏了，即使你批了，他/她也能递交。
供参考
（他觉得我本身条件也还
是我
【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 简明地说下我的问题：
: 最初打算140PP，然后同时提交我和我LD的485
: 律师建议我单独CONCURRENT 140+485，觉得比140PP便宜，时间也和140PP+485差不多 （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 不错）。 等140批了，再提交我LD的485 （因为他还没申请OPT，怕有移民倾向。于是我
: 交了140+485的律师费和申请费。
: 我在板上看到了有人140和485同时批准，并没有第一步第二步，于是发邮件问律师。万
: 一我同时140+485批准了，还没来得及递LD的485怎么办。
: 律师没正面回答，只说我LD is good to submit 485 with me (concurrent)
: 有谁能回答下我的问题，LD的485是只要我485批准了，他随时都能提交申请，还是是必
: 须在我485批准以前提交？
|
r**********n
发帖数: 230 | 3 一般来说，140和485同时批准的可能性很小，基本上485会在140批之后一段时间批准。
我的就是50天以后。
我的建议是，先让把你和你ld的485材料全部准备好，一旦140批了立即交485，也就是
在一个星期内。 |
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 4 It seems the spouse should be outside the U.S. if s/he wants to receive
follow-to-join benefits.
http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/familybasedimmigration/follow
If this is the case, filing husband and wife's 485 separately might be very
risky.
I suggest LZ to consult with the lawyer about follow-to-join benefits.
【在 e******r 的大作中提到】
: 低脚路过。。。
: 据说只要贤伉俪在递交485前昏了，即使你批了，他/她也能递交。
: 供参考
:
: （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 是我
|
r*******e
发帖数: 510 | 5 谢谢你！！这样是最理想的情况。
有没更多的参考资料？
【在 e******r 的大作中提到】
: 低脚路过。。。
: 据说只要贤伉俪在递交485前昏了，即使你批了，他/她也能递交。
: 供参考
:
: （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 是我
|
r*******e
发帖数: 510 | 6 谢谢，我就是头疼呢。不知道怎么办才好
very
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: It seems the spouse should be outside the U.S. if s/he wants to receive
: follow-to-join benefits.
: http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/familybasedimmigration/follow
: If this is the case, filing husband and wife's 485 separately might be very
: risky.
: I suggest LZ to consult with the lawyer about follow-to-join benefits.
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 7 If the follow-to-join benefits can not be applied, better file both 485
together. No one can tell how soon 485 can be approved.
Another strategy, do not submit some evidences for 485 at the first place,
such as the EVL and medical records, so the 485 process can take longer due
to RFE.
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢，我就是头疼呢。不知道怎么办才好
:
: very
|
r*******e
发帖数: 510 | 8 那只要在485批准以前结婚都算，还是必须在主申请人批准485以前提交才算？你知道吗？
我就是这点不太明白。
due
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: If the follow-to-join benefits can not be applied, better file both 485
: together. No one can tell how soon 485 can be approved.
: Another strategy, do not submit some evidences for 485 at the first place,
: such as the EVL and medical records, so the 485 process can take longer due
: to RFE.
|
k**w
发帖数: 963 | 9 可以follow to join,但是据说很慢
看印度人讨论有可能需要1，2年 |
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 10 Should be married before 485 approval.
"A spouse or child of a permanent resident cannot receive “following-to-
join” benefits if the permanent resident got married and/or had children on
the date of or after obtaining permanent residency."
http://www.greencardfamily.com/residentspouse/prspouse_faq.htm
However, problem is that it seems to me this does not apply to the spouse
who is already in the states.
吗？
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】
: 那只要在485批准以前结婚都算，还是必须在主申请人批准485以前提交才算？你知道吗？
: 我就是这点不太明白。
:
: due
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 11 He can submit 485 even after your 485 approval.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Immigration/32129651_0.html
follow-to-join is for spouses not in US.
Here's one more recent discussion on this:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/32161239.html
（他觉得我本身条件也还
是我
【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 简明地说下我的问题：
: 最初打算140PP，然后同时提交我和我LD的485
: 律师建议我单独CONCURRENT 140+485，觉得比140PP便宜，时间也和140PP+485差不多 （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 不错）。 等140批了，再提交我LD的485 （因为他还没申请OPT，怕有移民倾向。于是我
: 交了140+485的律师费和申请费。
: 我在板上看到了有人140和485同时批准，并没有第一步第二步，于是发邮件问律师。万
: 一我同时140+485批准了，还没来得及递LD的485怎么办。
: 律师没正面回答，只说我LD is good to submit 485 with me (concurrent)
: 有谁能回答下我的问题，LD的485是只要我485批准了，他随时都能提交申请，还是是必
: 须在我485批准以前提交？
|
g******a
发帖数: 80 | 12 谢谢，看了你的连接，清楚很多。也放心一些了。
给律师发了邮件。有结果上来汇报。
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: He can submit 485 even after your 485 approval.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Immigration/32129651_0.html
: follow-to-join is for spouses not in US.
: Here's one more recent discussion on this:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/32161239.html
:
: （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 是我
|
C*******d
发帖数: 3345 | 13 既然这么折腾，不如只交140.等你ld的opt批了，在一起交485
（他觉得我本身条件也还
是我
【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 简明地说下我的问题：
: 最初打算140PP，然后同时提交我和我LD的485
: 律师建议我单独CONCURRENT 140+485，觉得比140PP便宜，时间也和140PP+485差不多 （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 不错）。 等140批了，再提交我LD的485 （因为他还没申请OPT，怕有移民倾向。于是我
: 交了140+485的律师费和申请费。
: 我在板上看到了有人140和485同时批准，并没有第一步第二步，于是发邮件问律师。万
: 一我同时140+485批准了，还没来得及递LD的485怎么办。
: 律师没正面回答，只说我LD is good to submit 485 with me (concurrent)
: 有谁能回答下我的问题，LD的485是只要我485批准了，他随时都能提交申请，还是是必
: 须在我485批准以前提交？
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 14 It would be safer to have an official website for this.
So since "follow to join" does not apply, what is the name/term for that
which applies? Why follow to join emphasize the spouse is not US? If this
does not matter, what is the point to mention "not US", if either within or
outside, the spouse does not need to wait? What is the difference between "
follow to join" with other one? i.e, why use two terms?
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: He can submit 485 even after your 485 approval.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Immigration/32129651_0.html
: follow-to-join is for spouses not in US.
: Here's one more recent discussion on this:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/32161239.html
:
: （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 是我
|
d********1
发帖数: 8969 | |
e********t
发帖数: 1865 | 16 这个问题看来挺常见的，搜索各大律师事务所的网站上基本谈到的答案都一致，你的婚
姻发生在你485批准前你的配偶就可以以derivative beneficiary的身份来交485.
另外仔细读485的instruction 2关于谁有资格递交485就写清楚了：based on Being the spouse or child at
the time principle applicant files to adjust the status OR at a time a
person is granted permanent residency in an immigrant category that allows
derivative Status for spouse or children. EB 是允许配偶和孩子做为derivative
的，也就是说只要在eb主申请人的绿卡拿到前拥有副申请人资格（结婚），就可以递交485。 |
T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 17 "Follow" means to come later, that's for spouses who are not in US, and they can apply for consular processing, where they don't need to submit I-130 form (to try to get a visa number, similar to I-140 form), nor should they submit I-485 form. I-485 form is for people who are in US to adjust status.
But if the spouse is already here in US with the principal applicant, this spouse's visa number is already available "before" the principal's I-485 is approved, and it's always available "when" and "after" the principal's I-485 is approved, even if the "application" of the spouse's I-485 happens "after" the principal's 485 approval. It's like DHS has already allowed a visa number, which can be claimed any time. I don't think that there's an extra term for this, it's the same as the case where couples apply for I-485 together at the same time.
However, if the marriage happens later than the principal's I-485 approval, the spouse has to apply through the category of green card holder's spouse using form I-130, and it has a PD in 2009 for mainland Chinese.
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: It would be safer to have an official website for this.
: So since "follow to join" does not apply, what is the name/term for that
: which applies? Why follow to join emphasize the spouse is not US? If this
: does not matter, what is the point to mention "not US", if either within or
: outside, the spouse does not need to wait? What is the difference between "
: follow to join" with other one? i.e, why use two terms?
|
w*********m
发帖数: 4740 | 18 I heard u need submit your ld's 485 before yours approved.
Otherwise, different.
（他觉得我本身条件也还
是我
【在 h*********t 的大作中提到】
: 简明地说下我的问题：
: 最初打算140PP，然后同时提交我和我LD的485
: 律师建议我单独CONCURRENT 140+485，觉得比140PP便宜，时间也和140PP+485差不多 （他觉得我本身条件也还
: 不错）。 等140批了，再提交我LD的485 （因为他还没申请OPT，怕有移民倾向。于是我
: 交了140+485的律师费和申请费。
: 我在板上看到了有人140和485同时批准，并没有第一步第二步，于是发邮件问律师。万
: 一我同时140+485批准了，还没来得及递LD的485怎么办。
: 律师没正面回答，只说我LD is good to submit 485 with me (concurrent)
: 有谁能回答下我的问题，LD的485是只要我485批准了，他随时都能提交申请，还是是必
: 须在我485批准以前提交？
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 19 I know "follow-to-join", however, it does not apply here.
See this website
http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/adjustmentofstatus/dependents
It explictly says the derivatives need to submit 485 before principal's 485
is approved.
It is better to be safe than sorry.
they can apply for consular processing, where they don't need to submit I-
130 form (to try to get a visa number, similar to I-140 form), nor should
they submit I-485 form. I-485 form is for people who are in US to adjust
status.
spouse's visa number is already available "before" the principal's I-485 is
approved, and it's always available "when" and "after" the principal's I-
485 is approved, even if the "application" of the spouse's I-485 happens "
after" the principal's 485 approval. It's like DHS has already allowed a
visa number, which can be claimed any time. I don't think that there's an
extra term for this, it's the same as the case where c: ouples apply for I-
485 together at the same time.
, the spouse has to apply through the category of green card holder's spouse
using form I-130, and it has a PD in 2009 for mainland Chinese.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: "Follow" means to come later, that's for spouses who are not in US, and they can apply for consular processing, where they don't need to submit I-130 form (to try to get a visa number, similar to I-140 form), nor should they submit I-485 form. I-485 form is for people who are in US to adjust status.
: But if the spouse is already here in US with the principal applicant, this spouse's visa number is already available "before" the principal's I-485 is approved, and it's always available "when" and "after" the principal's I-485 is approved, even if the "application" of the spouse's I-485 happens "after" the principal's 485 approval. It's like DHS has already allowed a visa number, which can be claimed any time. I don't think that there's an extra term for this, it's the same as the case where couples apply for I-485 together at the same time.
: However, if the marriage happens later than the principal's I-485 approval, the spouse has to apply through the category of green card holder's spouse using form I-130, and it has a PD in 2009 for mainland Chinese.
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 20 From this link, it seems the derivative adjustment is doable after principal
's 485 is approved:
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_485pos.html
I think it is better that LZ seeks clarifications from the lawyer. |
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 21 This link is wrong.
What we talked about is NOT follow-to-join.
This was/is the myth on this board earlier and now as well. I wasn't aware of it till that post that easttowest and that LZ cleared this case.
485
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: I know "follow-to-join", however, it does not apply here.
: See this website
: http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/adjustmentofstatus/dependents
: It explictly says the derivatives need to submit 485 before principal's 485
: is approved.
: It is better to be safe than sorry.
:
: they can apply for consular processing, where they don't need to submit I-
: 130 form (to try to get a visa number, similar to I-140 form), nor should
: they submit I-485 form. I-485 form is for people who are in US to adjust
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 22 What do you mean that the link is wrong?
The link is NOT for follow-to-join. Paragraph 5 is for dependents who are
already in the U.S. when the principal filed 485.
However, there is confliction between what is said in this website and the
other one I listed above.
of it till that post that easttowest and that LZ cleared this case.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: This link is wrong.
: What we talked about is NOT follow-to-join.
: This was/is the myth on this board earlier and now as well. I wasn't aware of it till that post that easttowest and that LZ cleared this case.
:
: 485
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 23 That's what I meant that it was wrong.
This case mentioned in that link was not for follow-to-join, and it was
wrong. This wrong statement was what I was told on this board earlier as
well, and many people still believe so.
It is wrong. easttowest is correct.
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: What do you mean that the link is wrong?
: The link is NOT for follow-to-join. Paragraph 5 is for dependents who are
: already in the U.S. when the principal filed 485.
: However, there is confliction between what is said in this website and the
: other one I listed above.
:
: of it till that post that easttowest and that LZ cleared this case.
|
p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 24 I see your point.
What is said in the next link I mentioned seems to agree with what you said.
That of couse will be the best.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: That's what I meant that it was wrong.
: This case mentioned in that link was not for follow-to-join, and it was
: wrong. This wrong statement was what I was told on this board earlier as
: well, and many people still believe so.
: It is wrong. easttowest is correct.
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 25 yes.
said. That of course will be the best.
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: I see your point.
: What is said in the next link I mentioned seems to agree with what you said.
: That of couse will be the best.
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