M***y
发帖数: 114 | 1 想问下大家，liu 律师服务怎么样？
从版上文章看，我的印象是他接case比较谨慎，那是不是意味着他的通过率很大？有没
有近100%啊？
我看他的premium service好像连推荐信都他们起草。效果可好？
他们通常准备起来快吗？一般要多久会准备好提交？
有没有可能出错？我看到有的人抱怨律师填表格有错误之类。 |
g*****3
发帖数: 455 | 2 liu 不是接CASE谨慎，而是当他手头的CASE很多时，他的EVALUATION 的标准就出奇得
高。我曾让他评估过，他说 “After carefully reviewing your record, we
regret that our office is not able to .... due to ...... please consult
with other lawyers who may have a different opinion about the case.”
I then consulted with another lawyer and my case was approved without RFE.
Accepting only very strong cases does not mean he is a good immigration
lawyer but only mean the case is strong.没有听说过 “他的通过率很大“。
Go consult with other lawyers......
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: 想问下大家，liu 律师服务怎么样？
: 从版上文章看，我的印象是他接case比较谨慎，那是不是意味着他的通过率很大？有没
: 有近100%啊？
: 我看他的premium service好像连推荐信都他们起草。效果可好？
: 他们通常准备起来快吗？一般要多久会准备好提交？
: 有没有可能出错？我看到有的人抱怨律师填表格有错误之类。
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a****d
发帖数: 624 | 3 看得我心理平衡多了，我也被他拒绝了。
The citations and reviewer work are on the lower side of USCIS approved EB-
1A cases. The case will have a chance to be approved, but due to moderate
citations and reviewer work, we are not able to estimate the likelihood of
success. For this reason, we regret that we are not able to work on this EB-
1A case at this time. Please consult with other lawyers who may have a
different opinion about the case. |
c******g
发帖数: 9273 | 4 奇怪，为啥他生意那么好？
EB-
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: 看得我心理平衡多了，我也被他拒绝了。
:
: The citations and reviewer work are on the lower side of USCIS approved EB-
: 1A cases. The case will have a chance to be approved, but due to moderate
: citations and reviewer work, we are not able to estimate the likelihood of
: success. For this reason, we regret that we are not able to work on this EB-
: 1A case at this time. Please consult with other lawyers who may have a
: different opinion about the case.
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a****d
发帖数: 624 | 5 人家名气大，生意肯定好。我们这种小弱case只有被惨无人道拒绝得份！ |
x****w
发帖数: 881 | |
e******r
发帖数: 9977 | 7 很多硫痨不收的case也过了。。
不过我对伊印象不错，起码免费评估回信超快，而且在评估里指点了我一二。
非硫粉，我diy
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: 想问下大家，liu 律师服务怎么样？
: 从版上文章看，我的印象是他接case比较谨慎，那是不是意味着他的通过率很大？有没
: 有近100%啊？
: 我看他的premium service好像连推荐信都他们起草。效果可好？
: 他们通常准备起来快吗？一般要多久会准备好提交？
: 有没有可能出错？我看到有的人抱怨律师填表格有错误之类。
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c******g
发帖数: 9273 | 8 大牛都是diy的
【在 e******r 的大作中提到】
: 很多硫痨不收的case也过了。。
: 不过我对伊印象不错，起码免费评估回信超快，而且在评估里指点了我一二。
: 非硫粉，我diy
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e******r
发帖数: 9977 | 9 可能那是对别人，我是弱case穷人diy尚无果。
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: 大牛都是diy的
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b*********r
发帖数: 7139 | 10 second this
【在 g*****3 的大作中提到】
: liu 不是接CASE谨慎，而是当他手头的CASE很多时，他的EVALUATION 的标准就出奇得
: 高。我曾让他评估过，他说 “After carefully reviewing your record, we
: regret that our office is not able to .... due to ...... please consult
: with other lawyers who may have a different opinion about the case.”
: I then consulted with another lawyer and my case was approved without RFE.
: Accepting only very strong cases does not mean he is a good immigration
: lawyer but only mean the case is strong.没有听说过 “他的通过率很大“。
: Go consult with other lawyers......
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M***y
发帖数: 114 | |
a****d
发帖数: 624 | 12 问了来share一下啊，我也在头疼，弱小case， NIW有等于无，eb1a实在是没有把握。
不知道找那个律师能有点帮助呢 |
e***d
发帖数: 734 | 13 我当初也是被liu拒了，建议我还是走niw就好
不过拒我的不止他一个，事实上我问了一圈，除了一个律师别人都把我拒了= = |
m***c
发帖数: 637 | 14 frankly, liu is a good lawyer, but he will not boast your materials too much
. Therefore, if you background is not strong, please don't go. Your finally
application will be weaker than your background. For many background, he
will think that is not qualified to file.
I read one of my friend's application filed by liu law, I have to say it is
really terrible, and it is the worst application I read, even worse then DIY
without any EB1a knowledge.
I read many cases, including applications from 4 lawyers, many DIY
applications, and many RFEs and appeal letters.
I suggest you'd better DIY, or polish it based on DIY.
Laoda555 should be a good guy you should consider. |
a****d
发帖数: 624 | |
b******g
发帖数: 780 | |
p******8
发帖数: 516 | 17 re
much
finally
is
DIY
【在 m***c 的大作中提到】
: frankly, liu is a good lawyer, but he will not boast your materials too much
: . Therefore, if you background is not strong, please don't go. Your finally
: application will be weaker than your background. For many background, he
: will think that is not qualified to file.
: I read one of my friend's application filed by liu law, I have to say it is
: really terrible, and it is the worst application I read, even worse then DIY
: without any EB1a knowledge.
: I read many cases, including applications from 4 lawyers, many DIY
: applications, and many RFEs and appeal letters.
: I suggest you'd better DIY, or polish it based on DIY.
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f****i
发帖数: 62 | 18 我最近也找刘律师评估了一下，得到如下结论：
this EB-1A case should have a reasonable chance to be approved under normal
circumstances.
不知道各位大牛怎么看我这个Case得到批准的可能性，请大家多多指教 |
c******g
发帖数: 9273 | 19 你这个是show off 啊。刘律师给这个结论的都是大牛人
normal
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】
: 我最近也找刘律师评估了一下，得到如下结论：
: this EB-1A case should have a reasonable chance to be approved under normal
: circumstances.
: 不知道各位大牛怎么看我这个Case得到批准的可能性，请大家多多指教
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a****d
发帖数: 624 | 20 The citations and reviewer work are on the lower side of USCIS approved EB-
1A cases. The case will have a chance to be approved, but due to moderate
citations and reviewer work, we are not able to estimate the likelihood of
success
那Liu Law对我的case的结论如上，还有机会吗？ |
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 21 Okay, here's the quantitative metric that Zac Liu used in his evaluation:
1. "Excellent chance" for those that the chance of approval is 90%~99%;
2. "Fairly good chance" for those that the chance of approval is 80%~89%.
3. "Reasonable chance" for those that the chance of approval is 60%~79%.
4. "Substantial risk" for those that the chance to be approved is below 60%. |
T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 22 I should also add that other lawyers may refrain from giving any numerical
evaluations at all, since this number may be misleading, as a higher number
may make an applicant expect too much and a lower number may make him/her
lose confidence.
In reality, everybody has a chance, and give it your best try!
%.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, here's the quantitative metric that Zac Liu used in his evaluation:
: 1. "Excellent chance" for those that the chance of approval is 90%~99%;
: 2. "Fairly good chance" for those that the chance of approval is 80%~89%.
: 3. "Reasonable chance" for those that the chance of approval is 60%~79%.
: 4. "Substantial risk" for those that the chance to be approved is below 60%.
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e******r
发帖数: 9977 | 23 甄古诗美女真乃兵器版‘百晓生’。。。
%.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, here's the quantitative metric that Zac Liu used in his evaluation:
: 1. "Excellent chance" for those that the chance of approval is 90%~99%;
: 2. "Fairly good chance" for those that the chance of approval is 80%~89%.
: 3. "Reasonable chance" for those that the chance of approval is 60%~79%.
: 4. "Substantial risk" for those that the chance to be approved is below 60%.
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 24 kaka,"甄古诗", very cool name! It used up dozens of my brain cells to figure this out. :-)
To back it up on what I said, those numbers were what Liu told me when I asked him what he meant exactly.
【在 e******r 的大作中提到】
: 甄古诗美女真乃兵器版‘百晓生’。。。
:
: %.
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M***y
发帖数: 114 | 25 cool. 我有level2的chance。可惜我还是决定先不申请了，我明年4月份还要申请F1延
期。:(
number
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: I should also add that other lawyers may refrain from giving any numerical
: evaluations at all, since this number may be misleading, as a higher number
: may make an applicant expect too much and a lower number may make him/her
: lose confidence.
: In reality, everybody has a chance, and give it your best try!
:
: %.
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 26 Have you got your documents almost ready? It often takes three months to get all the letters and print-outs ready. If you are ready now, you can probably get your green card or at least the EAD by next April, then you don't need to renew your OPT (if this is what you meant by F1) any more. If you are not on your OPT, but just purely F1, then probably you can wait till you work to apply for a green card, to be on the safe side.
延: 期。:(
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: cool. 我有level2的chance。可惜我还是决定先不申请了，我明年4月份还要申请F1延
: 期。:(
:
: number
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n******1
发帖数: 319 | 27 其实我想问：他的case多不就表示他牛么。。。。
如果平白一个律师说我只接强case，谁买账啊
【在 g*****3 的大作中提到】
: liu 不是接CASE谨慎，而是当他手头的CASE很多时，他的EVALUATION 的标准就出奇得
: 高。我曾让他评估过，他说 “After carefully reviewing your record, we
: regret that our office is not able to .... due to ...... please consult
: with other lawyers who may have a different opinion about the case.”
: I then consulted with another lawyer and my case was approved without RFE.
: Accepting only very strong cases does not mean he is a good immigration
: lawyer but only mean the case is strong.没有听说过 “他的通过率很大“。
: Go consult with other lawyers......
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n******1
发帖数: 319 | 28 really terrible是什么意思？
为什么是worst application
much
finally
is
DIY
【在 m***c 的大作中提到】
: frankly, liu is a good lawyer, but he will not boast your materials too much
: . Therefore, if you background is not strong, please don't go. Your finally
: application will be weaker than your background. For many background, he
: will think that is not qualified to file.
: I read one of my friend's application filed by liu law, I have to say it is
: really terrible, and it is the worst application I read, even worse then DIY
: without any EB1a knowledge.
: I read many cases, including applications from 4 lawyers, many DIY
: applications, and many RFEs and appeal letters.
: I suggest you'd better DIY, or polish it based on DIY.
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M***y
发帖数: 114 | 29 我要申请的是NIW,还要等排期的，所以估计到明年是拿不到EAD的吧？
我现在是pure F1,还没有opt，明年是想延长我的I-20上的那个时间。毕业估计在明年
底，到时候还要申请OPT。
我们学校ISSS这段时间刚好请了个律师过来讲移民，叫arthur serratelli,有没有人听
说过？他怎么样？据他说，I-20延期是绝对不会有问题，OPT申请，只要人在美国，也
不太会有问题。所以，我现在又开始想申请了。
get all the letters and print-outs ready. If you are ready now, you can
probably get your green card or at least the EAD by next April, then you don
't need to renew your OPT (if this is what you meant by F1) any more. If you
are not on your OPT, but just purely F1, then probably you can wait till
you work to apply for a green card, to be on the safe side.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: Have you got your documents almost ready? It often takes three months to get all the letters and print-outs ready. If you are ready now, you can probably get your green card or at least the EAD by next April, then you don't need to renew your OPT (if this is what you meant by F1) any more. If you are not on your OPT, but just purely F1, then probably you can wait till you work to apply for a green card, to be on the safe side.
:
: 延: 期。:(
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 30
You are right, NIW needs to wait. What I talked about was for EB1.
年底，到时候还要申请OPT。我们学校ISSS这段时间刚好请了个律师过来讲移民，叫
arthur serratelli,有没有人听说过？他怎么样？据他说，I-20延期是绝对不会有问题
，OPT申请，只要人在美国，也不太会有问题。所以，我现在又开始想申请了。
I don't know the answer to this F1 or OPT question. Well, given current PD
of NIW, it might be quicker for you to get a green card if you apply for EB1
in 2013 than applying for NIW now. I could be wrong, though. If the EB2 PD
is greatly moved ahead after dealing with that 2007 batch, it could be fast
in the future.
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: 我要申请的是NIW,还要等排期的，所以估计到明年是拿不到EAD的吧？
: 我现在是pure F1,还没有opt，明年是想延长我的I-20上的那个时间。毕业估计在明年
: 底，到时候还要申请OPT。
: 我们学校ISSS这段时间刚好请了个律师过来讲移民，叫arthur serratelli,有没有人听
: 说过？他怎么样？据他说，I-20延期是绝对不会有问题，OPT申请，只要人在美国，也
: 不太会有问题。所以，我现在又开始想申请了。
:
: get all the letters and print-outs ready. If you are ready now, you can
: probably get your green card or at least the EAD by next April, then you don
: 't need to renew your OPT (if this is what you meant by F1) any more. If you
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f*****r
发帖数: 300 | 31 I think I-20 extension is done within your university. OPT? I also think it
's not a big deal.
don
you
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: 我要申请的是NIW,还要等排期的，所以估计到明年是拿不到EAD的吧？
: 我现在是pure F1,还没有opt，明年是想延长我的I-20上的那个时间。毕业估计在明年
: 底，到时候还要申请OPT。
: 我们学校ISSS这段时间刚好请了个律师过来讲移民，叫arthur serratelli,有没有人听
: 说过？他怎么样？据他说，I-20延期是绝对不会有问题，OPT申请，只要人在美国，也
: 不太会有问题。所以，我现在又开始想申请了。
:
: get all the letters and print-outs ready. If you are ready now, you can
: probably get your green card or at least the EAD by next April, then you don
: 't need to renew your OPT (if this is what you meant by F1) any more. If you
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a****d
发帖数: 624 | 32 The case will have a chance to be approved, but due to moderate citations
and reviewer work, we are not able to estimate the likelihood of success.
For this reason, we regret that we are not able to work on this EB-1A case
at this time. Please consult with other lawyers who may have a different
opinion about the case。
楼上的，我和你的答复是一膜一样的。
总不能因为liu说了不行，我们自己就完全放弃了吧。 |
h********F
发帖数: 484 | 33 From Liu Law:
The information given to me in your email indicates that you are eligible to
apply for a green card through national interest waiver (NIW Eb-2) and
through Eb-1A.
Good or not?
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: The case will have a chance to be approved, but due to moderate citations
: and reviewer work, we are not able to estimate the likelihood of success.
: For this reason, we regret that we are not able to work on this EB-1A case
: at this time. Please consult with other lawyers who may have a different
: opinion about the case。
: 楼上的，我和你的答复是一膜一样的。
: 总不能因为liu说了不行，我们自己就完全放弃了吧。
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e******r
发帖数: 9977 | 34 about 60-79% success rate
to
【在 h********F 的大作中提到】
: From Liu Law:
: The information given to me in your email indicates that you are eligible to
: apply for a green card through national interest waiver (NIW Eb-2) and
: through Eb-1A.
: Good or not?
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d********m
发帖数: 102 | 35 我的是
“this EB-1A case will have a fair chance to be approved under normal
circumstances”
fair 和 resonable 的区别是什么？
%.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, here's the quantitative metric that Zac Liu used in his evaluation:
: 1. "Excellent chance" for those that the chance of approval is 90%~99%;
: 2. "Fairly good chance" for those that the chance of approval is 80%~89%.
: 3. "Reasonable chance" for those that the chance of approval is 60%~79%.
: 4. "Substantial risk" for those that the chance to be approved is below 60%.
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T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 36 I really don't know the differences between such subtle wordings. If you
really want to know what Liu meant, you could ask him. That's how I got his
explanations earlier.
In one way, the numerical evaluation and its associated wording may help
people gain a better understanding of their cases. However, in another way,
this evaluation really limits people's thinking.
Being 70% or 80% probable, does it make much difference in your case's
preparation or the final result? If Liu said risky, would you give it up? If
Liu said 90%, would you not to try your best to prepare for your case to
make it as best as it could be? For each one of us, the final result is
either a pass or not, and why bother with it's being 70% or 90%, perhaps
except ego satisfaction?
It's better not to focus on such numbers, but rather focus on how many
lawyers would like to take your case, and what they suggest you to do.
If many lawyers said yes, please consider DIY. I should have considered DIY,
although I don't regret using a lawyer.
If some lawyers said yes, but some said no, listen to their comments, and
try to find a way to support your case if you DIY. Or if you decide to use a
lawyer, make sure he is not a bad lawyer, and then trust him. Mutual
respect and open-hearted collaboration gives you the best result.
If no lawyers said yes, try to dig out more value of your case, and you can
possibly DIY. Don't give it up just yet. Or if they recommend you to do
something, be patient with yourself and finish up those tasks first. With
time and preparation, you can make a case.
Also remember that not all lawyers give out approval probabilities nor their
past success rates, as those do not make your case any more safer or
riskier. Each case is unique, as are you.
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 我的是
: “this EB-1A case will have a fair chance to be approved under normal
: circumstances”
: fair 和 resonable 的区别是什么？
:
: %.
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s**********s
发帖数: 814 | 37 他给俺的评论是： The brief information given to me in your message
indicates a very promising EB-1A case. 不在这4个标准之内啊！
%.
【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】
: Okay, here's the quantitative metric that Zac Liu used in his evaluation:
: 1. "Excellent chance" for those that the chance of approval is 90%~99%;
: 2. "Fairly good chance" for those that the chance of approval is 80%~89%.
: 3. "Reasonable chance" for those that the chance of approval is 60%~79%.
: 4. "Substantial risk" for those that the chance to be approved is below 60%.
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h********F
发帖数: 484 | 38 楼上TrueStory白写那么多了，呵呵。
【在 s**********s 的大作中提到】
: 他给俺的评论是： The brief information given to me in your message
: indicates a very promising EB-1A case. 不在这4个标准之内啊！
:
: %.
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