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HouseRental版 - Peter Chao同志,作为一个房东,麻烦您别这么猥琐 (转载)
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W********r
发帖数: 238
1
【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: Wildpowder (母牛男孩), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Peter Chao同志,作为一个房东,麻烦您别这么猥琐
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 26 15:41:59 2011, 美东)
先来段人物介绍和故事梗概:
Peter Chao——买买提ID Peterchao,硅工兼房东,所出租房屋地址为2803 Broken
Oak Court,San Jose,CA 95148
我——学生兼房客,2010年12月18日至2011年1月16日租住以上房屋,时间差不多正好
一个月
故事很老套,房东拖欠了safe deposit不肯如数归还,我多次催促无果,上来发个帖子
出口鸟气,顺便曝曝这位台湾佬的光,大家今后租他房子的时候心里也好有个数。详细
经过请大家慢慢看完帖子。
========================================================================
去年12月初我在MIT上看到Peter Chao发的租房帖,朋友开车带我过去看了看房子,觉
得不错,回家后我就给Peter打了个电话问问还能便宜些否,得到的回答是可以,在原
来的500刀上减去20刀算作480刀一个月(关于这个500刀原始月租的价格Peter在后来的
争议中坚决否认,坚持当初是从550一个月的基础上打了70的折扣才得来的480的月租,
言下之意就是,他对我已经很“慷慨”了,这一点在后面会有详细论述)。480刀一个
月,加上房子周围环境确实不错,我就答应了,并于12月18号搬了进去,然后就有了以
下的rental agreement。
参见附件:Rental Agreement
大家可以清楚的看到房租是480一个月,safe deposit为450刀,这些钱我在搬进去的当
天就如数缴清,没有任何问题。
Peter Chao在签订合同之前曾问我要住几个月,我并不想撒谎,很肯定地告诉他只能住
一到两个月,而且一旦找到工作就会搬离(如果工作地点跟房子离得太远的话)。
========================================================================
就这样住到了一月八号左右,由于找工不易,再加上思乡心切,我准备回国。当天晚上
我打电话跟Peter说了一下,跟他道了个歉,毕竟,住了这么短时间就要走会给房东带
来一些不便。Peter听到消息后并没有为难我的意思,只是交代了一下临走时的一些注
意事项,钥匙要放好,房间要打扫干净等等。一月十六号一大早,我打扫完房间,收拾
完东西后去了机场。一月二十号,Peter Chao同志给我发了邮件.
参见附件:邮件一
450刀的safe deposit,要扣去70刀的短期房租补偿,24刀的百叶窗更换费和当月的电
费,我看到这个邮件时确实愣了一下:百叶窗,印象中没坏,到走之前都好好地用着,
也罢,赔了就赔了,反正也不是大事,再说也说不清;电费,后来是算作86刀,我一再
要求查看一下当月的电费清单,但是Peter Chao同志置若罔闻。如果说这两个还可以忍
受的话,那么这个70刀的短期房租补偿就让我很不爽了。
根据Peter Chao的说法,当初他发帖时的房租价格是550一个月,我询问能否降价后主
动给我降了70刀算作了480的月租。我当时很气愤,想去翻他在去年12月初发的租房帖
(帖子里价格是500一个月,当然,他现在的房租涨了)来做个证明,可惜,没能找到
。我一度以为自己记错了,可是一想那会儿外出找房的时候给自己定的预算就是500刀
封顶,心里琢磨着应该不会搞混。再就是,以Peter Chao这样的为人,550刀的基础上
能降下来70刀简直就是天方夜谭。
我试图跟Peter Chao争论这70刀的合理性,但是我毕竟没有提前一个月以书面的形式通
知他我16号要终止合约,事实上,这也不太可能,谁都不能预测未来。当时的情况是,
我愿意支付一些赔偿金,但是,我不希望Peter Chao以撒谎的方式来取得,而且,赔偿
的数目也有待商榷。Peter Chao在后来的邮件中一口咬定我破坏租房合同在先,然后又
把最后要归还的safe deposit的数目报给了我。
参见附件:邮件二
这里比较狗血的是,除了短期租房补偿,百叶窗修理费和电费之外,Peter Chao同志又
加上了浴室清洁费一条,我顿时无语。
大家可以看看他的第一封邮件和第二封邮件的间隔,整整将近三个礼拜。在我离开房子
快一个月后,Peter Chao同志发现浴室有点脏,然后很舒服地得出了我应该负责的结论
,呜呼哀哉,难道您在我走后去查看屋子时没有看浴室?还是说您故意整了个20刀的数
目好把剩下的钱凑成250(台湾人也喜欢用这个数字骂人么?)?
我入住的那一个月,房间,厨房,浴室,打扫得干干净净。Peter Chao同志,你要真想
扣钱,就应该打房间里地毯的主意,就您那光秃秃,冷冰冰的劣质大理石石板浴室,我
还能在上面刻字留名不成?
也罢,也罢,250就250吧,大过年的,为了这几个钱怄气也不值得。Peter Chao在上面
的邮件中很明确地告诉我会返还250刀,只是要等等。
========================================================================
等啊等,等来的却是蛋疼
请看看附件:Money Order上的数字
是的,你没看错,250刀的承诺,160刀的Money Order,怪不得人家说现实跟理想总是
有差距的。
450刀的safe deposit,七七八八,合理的不合理的,扣到最后只剩250,可能是寄
Money Order太贵的缘故吧,到了我手里就只剩下160. Peter Chao同志,我怎么看你也
是个不差钱的主儿,车子虽然烂点,但是至少手里有两套房(室友的八卦),照理说您
也不缺这几个小钱。您女儿估计上小学了吧,要上各种补习班,这些要钱,我能理解;
大冬天的您不敢开暖气,这么大一房子,还是两套,电费贼贵,我能体谅;您说话口吃
,这是病,得治,医疗费也不是小数目,这我也知道,只是,坑我们这群穷留学生您猴
年马月才能阔起来啊?还是听我一句劝,想点正经法子赚钱,别老从我们这帮学生身上
抠,做人么,还是不要那么猥琐为妙。
p*******o
发帖数: 128
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Wildpowder (母牛男孩) name is Yu Feng.
I will take law action and sue you to in Court for 不提前30天通知 and 曝光别
人的私隐. 同是华人, 给你方便. 你却狗咬吕洞宾, 不识好人心呀.
California Law Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy
To end a periodic rental agreement (for example, a month-to-month agreement)
, you must give your landlord proper written notice before you move.You must
give the landlord the same amount of notice as there are days between rent
payments.193 This means that if you pay rent monthly, you must give the
landlord written notice at least 30 days before you move out.
b***1
发帖数: 668
3
Peter Chao
Sr. Manager at HP
Location
San Francisco Bay Area
Industry
Computer Software
Peter Chao's Overview
Current
* Sr. Manager at HP
Past
* Consultant at RGB Networks
* Director of Engineering at Viorca
* Contract Engineer at Symmetricom
* Contract Engineer at Tellabs
* Contract Engineer at Symyx Technologies
* Contract Engineer at Solectron
* Engineer at Synaptics
* Engineer at RAMBUS
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Education
* Manhattan College
Connections
161 connections
Peter Chao's Experience
Sr. Manager
HP
Public Company; Computer Networking industry
September 2006 – Present (4 years 7 months)
Consultant
RGB Networks
Privately Held; Computer & Network Security industry
September 2006 – February 2007 (6 months)
Director of Engineering
Viorca
Privately Held; Computer Software industry
August 2004 – October 2006 (2 years 3 months)
Contract Engineer
Symmetricom
Public Company; Computer Software industry
June 2003 – July 2004 (1 year 2 months)
Contract Engineer
Tellabs
Public Company; Telecommunications industry
April 2003 – September 2003 (6 months)
Contract Engineer
Symyx Technologies
Public Company; Computer Software industry
April 2001 – March 2003 (2 years)
Contract Engineer
Solectron
Public Company; Electrical/Electronic Manufacturing industry
April 2001 – January 2003 (1 year 10 months)
Engineer
Synaptics
Public Company; Computer Software industry
September 2000 – February 2002 (1 year 6 months)
Engineer
RAMBUS
Public Company; Computer Software industry
July 1997 – August 2000 (3 years 2 months)
Peter Chao's Education
Manhattan College
1989 – 1993
b***1
发帖数: 668
4
Peter Chao
Sr. Manager at HP
Location
San Francisco Bay Area
Industry
Computer Software
Peter Chao's Overview
Current
* Sr. Manager at HP
Past
* Consultant at RGB Networks
* Director of Engineering at Viorca
* Contract Engineer at Symmetricom
* Contract Engineer at Tellabs
* Contract Engineer at Symyx Technologies
* Contract Engineer at Solectron
* Engineer at Synaptics
* Engineer at RAMBUS
see less...
see all...
Education
* Manhattan College
Connections
161 connections
Peter Chao's Experience
Sr. Manager
HP
Public Company; Computer Networking industry
September 2006 – Present (4 years 7 months)
Consultant
RGB Networks
Privately Held; Computer & Network Security industry
September 2006 – February 2007 (6 months)
Director of Engineering
Viorca
Privately Held; Computer Software industry
August 2004 – October 2006 (2 years 3 months)
Contract Engineer
Symmetricom
Public Company; Computer Software industry
June 2003 – July 2004 (1 year 2 months)
Contract Engineer
Tellabs
Public Company; Telecommunications industry
April 2003 – September 2003 (6 months)
Contract Engineer
Symyx Technologies
Public Company; Computer Software industry
April 2001 – March 2003 (2 years)
Contract Engineer
Solectron
Public Company; Electrical/Electronic Manufacturing industry
April 2001 – January 2003 (1 year 10 months)
Engineer
Synaptics
Public Company; Computer Software industry
September 2000 – February 2002 (1 year 6 months)
Engineer
RAMBUS
Public Company; Computer Software industry
July 1997 – August 2000 (3 years 2 months)
Peter Chao's Education
Manhattan College
1989 – 1993
W********r
发帖数: 238
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agreement)
must
rent
不是不想提前30天通知你,而是我回国的决定很突然,怎么可能预见?我尽可能早的给
你打了电话,再说租房之前我就跟你打过招呼,你心里应该有个数。
所以,别在帖子唧唧歪歪怪我没有发30 days notice了,你要扣住safe deposit没什么
问题,只是别像个娘们儿似的到处找其它理由。扣完杂七杂八的费用(里面包含了你认
为违反合约的罚金70刀)还剩250刀,黑纸白字,磨蹭了半天只寄了160刀,我是没什么
话可说。

【在 p*******o 的大作中提到】
: Wildpowder (母牛男孩) name is Yu Feng.
: I will take law action and sue you to in Court for 不提前30天通知 and 曝光别
: 人的私隐. 同是华人, 给你方便. 你却狗咬吕洞宾, 不识好人心呀.
: California Law Tenant's notice to end a periodic tenancy
: To end a periodic rental agreement (for example, a month-to-month agreement)
: , you must give your landlord proper written notice before you move.You must
: give the landlord the same amount of notice as there are days between rent
: payments.193 This means that if you pay rent monthly, you must give the
: landlord written notice at least 30 days before you move out.

l********9
发帖数: 41
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房东除了扣你deposit还要交utility和cleaning。 即使这样房东还是赔本。你揭人隐
私实在恶毒
I am suggest landlord go court to sue this stupid tenant.
l********9
发帖数: 41
7
Wildpowder(母牛男孩)你为这么点钱做这种爆光人家隐私的缺德事,
还人身攻击,说话刻薄。你这么有理怎么不敢把自己的信息爆光啊,还涂起来,
己所不欲,勿施于人,知道吗? 别在这里给中国人丢脸。
房东还你160是看你是和他同祖宗
z*****g
发帖数: 592
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Do you need to give 30 days of notice before moving to get deposit back
based on rental contract?

【在 W********r 的大作中提到】
:
: agreement)
: must
: rent
: 不是不想提前30天通知你,而是我回国的决定很突然,怎么可能预见?我尽可能早的给
: 你打了电话,再说租房之前我就跟你打过招呼,你心里应该有个数。
: 所以,别在帖子唧唧歪歪怪我没有发30 days notice了,你要扣住safe deposit没什么
: 问题,只是别像个娘们儿似的到处找其它理由。扣完杂七杂八的费用(里面包含了你认
: 为违反合约的罚金70刀)还剩250刀,黑纸白字,磨蹭了半天只寄了160刀,我是没什么
: 话可说。

l********9
发帖数: 41
9
Dear Peter Chao,
I got a job offer at Sunnyvale. I like your room, and need to reserve your
house single room start May 1st. I can sign six months rental agreement.
Please contact me.
W********r
发帖数: 238
10

Read b4 u post
Think b4 u speak

【在 z*****g 的大作中提到】
: Do you need to give 30 days of notice before moving to get deposit back
: based on rental contract?

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W********r
发帖数: 238
11

哈哈,还在这自导自演
Peter Chao的房子,谁爱住去住,只是别怕搬出来时被刁难就好

【在 l********9 的大作中提到】
: Dear Peter Chao,
: I got a job offer at Sunnyvale. I like your room, and need to reserve your
: house single room start May 1st. I can sign six months rental agreement.
: Please contact me.

z*****g
发帖数: 592
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sorry.
i dont think that you have any ground to fight for deposit since you
gave landlord such a short notice.
If you gave him 30 days of notice and he failed to do so, you have something
to argue about.

【在 W********r 的大作中提到】
:
: 哈哈,还在这自导自演
: Peter Chao的房子,谁爱住去住,只是别怕搬出来时被刁难就好

W********r
发帖数: 238
13

something
我在一开始就跟他沟通过,只能住一到两个月,而且随时可能走,他得知这个消息后并
没有拒绝我入住。
至于没有提前30天通知,那也是实在没有办法,计划不如变化,我尽可能早的跟他打了
招呼。
房东明确表示要退还250刀(已经扣除了他所认为的违约费),但是磨磨蹭蹭地只寄来
了160刀,这是我感到无法忍受的地方。口口声声的“同是华人,与你方便”,我只能
呵呵。

【在 z*****g 的大作中提到】
: sorry.
: i dont think that you have any ground to fight for deposit since you
: gave landlord such a short notice.
: If you gave him 30 days of notice and he failed to do so, you have something
: to argue about.

W********r
发帖数: 238
14

Peter的老婆,您还是回家带好孩子做好饭吧,别在私信里整个“Go F*uck Yourself”
跳出来恶心人了。女人么,心平气和一些,上窜下跳地到处操着台湾国语发帖对您没什
么好处。

【在 l********9 的大作中提到】
: Dear Peter Chao,
: I got a job offer at Sunnyvale. I like your room, and need to reserve your
: house single room start May 1st. I can sign six months rental agreement.
: Please contact me.

s*****r
发帖数: 73
15
我为什么觉得lovecat709是个托?
作为局外人,说句公道话。无论谁是谁非,每一个人都应该诚实,这并不是钱的问题。
房租是多少,就说多少;答应如何处理,就应该兑现。
要不然你就别说,说了不能兑现,在中国文化里,你也知道自己是什么吧~~
W********r
发帖数: 238
16

这个lovecat709如果爆料准确的话应该Peter老婆的ID

【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: 我为什么觉得lovecat709是个托?
: 作为局外人,说句公道话。无论谁是谁非,每一个人都应该诚实,这并不是钱的问题。
: 房租是多少,就说多少;答应如何处理,就应该兑现。
: 要不然你就别说,说了不能兑现,在中国文化里,你也知道自己是什么吧~~

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